It Time For The RKG's To Pay Some Dividends!

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This will be year 4 1/2 into the PROCESS. Another draft acquiring the RKG's. We've been hearing about what is being built and its the foundation for long term success and stability. The same Foreman (HC) has been at the helm but this foundation is being built by a new group of workers (Asst Coaches & Coordinators) seemingly every year.

Is there any realistic hope that we will see some significant improvement this upcoming season? Will these RKG's pay some dividends?

Its time. Its time for some gains.
 

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we have seen more effort I think
it's just that the talent level was allowed to deteriorate
poor drafting and switching schemes didn't help
it's is really new personal now

injuries
 

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This will be year 4 1/2 into the PROCESS. Another draft acquiring the RKG's. We've been hearing about what is being built and its the foundation for long term success and stability. The same Foreman (HC) has been at the helm but this foundation is being built by a new group of workers (Asst Coaches & Coordinators) seemingly every year.

Is there any realistic hope that we will see some significant improvement this upcoming season? Will these RKG's pay some dividends?

Its time. Its time for some gains.

RKG has become my most-hated Garrett term. It rates just above "process".
 

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I actually think we've drafted well this past 4 years, RKG or not, the problem with Garrett is that he is just a bad HC no if's or but's about it. He could maybe be a good GM but as a HC he is clearly not, I really think this is his last year with the Cowboys, if i'm wrong it would probably mean we made the playoffs so I wouldn't be too mad about it.
 

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I actually think we've drafted well this past 4 years, RKG or not, the problem with Garrett is that he is just a bad HC no if's or but's about it. He could maybe be a good GM but as a HC he is clearly not, I really think this is his last year with the Cowboys, if i'm wrong it would probably mean we made the playoffs so I wouldn't be too mad about it.
without being to optimistic I can see a wild card berth this year but the Eagles are going to be our real threat
 

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I agree. I actually think they are drafting well and doing some things better but it still seems to me that many other franchises are smarter and doing lots of things much better. I wouldn't say Garrett is bad as much as others are simply better. Maybe that's the same thing, I don't know. What I do know that as I watch games, other teams seem smarter, better coached, healthier, and simply on a higher level all around.
 

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It's such a lame term. Let's hope Lawrence turns out well and stays out of trouble. Three separate suspensions at Boise.
 

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I still think "RKG" is a very poorly understood concept around here. It was never meant to be synonymous with choir boy. If you go back and actually suffer the insufferable and listen to Garrett's early pressers he clearly lays out that RKG was about passion. It's virtually identical to Parcells thing when he would ask players to name their priorities in life and football had to be in the top three. Michael Irvin would have been a RKG.

Garrett's whole head coaching career came about because the players under Wade Phillips obviously didn't really care, and if you watch, no matter how poorly they've played, Garrett's teams have never rolled over like that.
 

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I still think "RKG" is a very poorly understood concept around here. It was never meant to be synonymous with choir boy. If you go back and actually suffer the insufferable and listen to Garrett's early pressers he clearly lays out that RKG was about passion. It's virtually identical to Parcells thing when he would ask players to name their priorities in life and football had to be in the top three. Michael Irvin would have been a RKG.

Garrett's whole head coaching career came about because the players under Wade Phillips obviously didn't really care, and if you watch, no matter how poorly they've played, Garrett's teams have never rolled over like that.

I completely agree. Yes Irvin is/was RKG. This will pay off. I still belief in Red.
 

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if the "RKG's slip into the play offs this year will that ease your dislike a little

No, it really wouldn't. A one and done situation is not that big of a deal. I would eat my words is they made it to the NFC title game, but I see 0% chance of that happening. I think the RKG ideal has kept the team from getting some good players that may have had a off-field issue or two. Some of the Cowboys all-time greats wouldn't have been on this team if they had always followed this ideal. I would rather have players with an edge.
 

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I would like to learn the art of acquiring extra draft picks. some teams are loaded because of this one maneuver

The 49ers have replaced the Pats with their draft day moves. I hate that team, but I am jealous of what they are doing. They are the best run team in the league over the last couple of years IMO. Their GM is great. He goes after players that fits their schemes and the have a big, fast, physical team that sys nasty football, kinda like the 90's Cowboys.
 

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Is there any realistic hope that we will see some significant improvement this upcoming season?

Will we see the defense blown up by injuries again this year? Romo and company can only do so much with the defense we fielded last year.
 

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This will be year 4 1/2 into the PROCESS. Another draft acquiring the RKG's. We've been hearing about what is being built and its the foundation for long term success and stability. The same Foreman (HC) has been at the helm but this foundation is being built by a new group of workers (Asst Coaches & Coordinators) seemingly every year.

Is there any realistic hope that we will see some significant improvement this upcoming season? Will these RKG's pay some dividends?

Its time. Its time for some gains.

There is really nothing new to be said about Garrett, his defenders point to intangibles like leadership and talent acquisition and his detractors point to the scoreboard. Everybody pretty much knows which posters are in each camp on this board so I will just leave it at that.

However, I think both groups of posters realize that this is probably Garrett's last shot this year. If we do not make the playoffs after Garrett being the Head Coach for almost 5 seasons, it will be almost impossible for Jerry to give Jason an extension. Even if he wants to, it will almost be impossible from a public relations aspect to reward failure.

if somebody disagrees, name me one head coach in the NFL that after almost 5 consecutive seasons of no playoffs was rewarded with an extension by the same team. And I am talking modern times in the last 20 years or so, not what some coach back in 1960 got.

I cant think of anybody myself, can anybody else? 5 straight seasons without a playoff appearance and was given a new contract by the same team within the last 20 seasons.
 
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The 49ers have replaced the Pats with their draft day moves. I hate that team, but I am jealous of what they are doing. They are the best run team in the league over the last couple of years IMO. Their GM is great. He goes after players that fits their schemes and the have a big, fast, physical team that sys nasty football, kinda like the 90's Cowboys.

big nasty is not the antithesis of RKG
but I agree SF and Seattle are learning the art of player acquisition
 

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Every employer in the world is looking for someone who is passionate about their job. That Garrett thinks he's stumbled upon some magic formula or litmus test is, to be honest, embarrassing.
 

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There is really nothing new to be said about Garrett, his defenders point to intangibles like leadership and talent acquisition and his detractors point to the scoreboard. Everybody pretty much knows which posters are in each camp on this board so I will just leave it at that.

However, I think both groups of posters realize that this is probably Garrett's last shot this year. If we do not make the playoffs after Garrett being the Head Coach for almost 5 seasons, it will be almost impossible for Jerry to give Jason an extension. Even if he wants to, it will almost be impossible from a public relations aspect to reward failure.

if somebody disagrees, name me one head coach in the NFL that after almost 5 consecutive seasons of no playoffs was rewarded with an extension by the same team. And I am talking modern times in the last 20 years or so, not what some coach back in 1960 got.

I cant think of anybody myself, can anybody else? 5 straight seasons without a playoff appearance and was given a new contract by the same team within the last 20 seasons.

Kubiak's probably the closest with an extension averaging below .500 after four seasons and then surviving 6-10 the season after that before going 10-6 and then 12-4.
 

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Every employer in the world is looking for someone who is passionate about their job. That Garrett thinks he's stumbled upon some magic formula or litmus test is, to be honest, embarrassing.

There are 32 current head coaches who are passionate about their jobs, and hundreds of assistants hoping to be head coaches who are the same way.
 

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I would like to learn the art of acquiring extra draft picks. some teams are loaded because of this one maneuver

You simply have to be willing to sacrifice current value from time to time and have replacements ready to go for guys who are due new big money deals. You have to be willing to trade back while accepting future picks and you have to be willing to let good players go that will bring you back comp picks. Once you have positioned yourself with 3-4 extra 1st through 4th rounders, it's makes it much easier to continue trading each year to pick up future picks and still be in position to have a good draft. You also have to plan ahead and draft replacements for guys who have contracts expiring soon. If you have a suitable replacement, you can let the player go and get the comp pick.

To do this you have to have a talented roster with very few holes. If you are chasing players in the draft to fill holes, you have no chance because you have to give up picks instead. That's where Dallas is and where JJ has always kept them. They are always chasing specifics and that leaves you at the mercy of other teams. If you look what SF is doing, they are always accumulating value and taking great value players that fall to them. They never seem to reach for a need because they don't have any. They draft the last remaining player in the green room in the 3rd round. That's value. They don't need him but he will replace someone soon who will bring back a comp pick. That's how it's done.
 
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