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GTaylor;1260750 said:
You need to fire your translater, Glenn said WE need to execute, meaning the offense needs to peform better, not feed the ball to me more.

Apples and oranges there.

Hey Bleu Star...What did I tell you....

Yes but he didn't actually say the words...Feed me the ball more.:p:
 

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Hey, here's another thread we can file under the "I don't know much about football, but I'm PO'd and want someone to blame" Zone.
 

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88 enough said;1260621 said:
TO is a punk, cry baby and an excuse maker. I was all for him coming in to Dallas but now he needs to go. I thought he would have been an upgrade from Key but other than speed- Key is a better ball player. What a pain in the butt. I hope TO is out of the league next year. I have made excuses all year for him and said he is worth the trouble---- BUT IM OFF THE BANDWAGON.

Gratz dude, glad you seen the light. Hes an ok player, but hes not a game changer (in a positive sense). Welcome to the real bandwagon, the anti-el dorado bandwagon, where the cool pple who really know hang out.
 

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theogt;1260768 said:
Hey, here's another thread we can file under the "I don't know much about football, but I'm PO'd and want someone to blame" Zone.

:hammer:

At least someone in this thread is making sense.
 

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Doomsday;1260684 said:
How do you blame the offense when the defense gives up drives of 89, 94 and 76 yards in 2 1/2 quarters of play? It is ridicilous the offense needs to get more then 2 possessions in the first quarter to get on track.

The defense was dominated. The Eagles offensive line controlled the Cowboys line. It is a simple as that. A team cannot give up so many long time consuming drives like the Cowboys allowed yesterday.

The Cowboys offensive line played poorly as well. They had no push in the running game and could not protect the QB.

It all comes down to line play. It is basic football 101. Both lines were whipped by the Eagles.

It wasn't like the Eagles did anything special. They just ran their offense for the most part.
 

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lurkercowboy;1260829 said:
The defense was dominated. The Eagles offensive line controlled the Cowboys line. It is a simple as that. A team cannot give up so many long time consuming drives like the Cowboys allowed yesterday.

The Cowboys offensive line played poorly as well. They had no push in the running game and could not protect the QB.

It all comes down to line play. It is basic football 101. Both lines were whipped by the Eagles.

I agree that was my biggest fear coming into this game, they dominated the game in Philly last season and this season, I was just hoping Dallas had gotten better and could get it done but its pretty obvious they are just better upfront then Dallas.
 

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ITS ALL ON THE TUNA....GET HIM IN THE GAME EARLY AND KEEP HIM IN THE GAME.....I CANNOT BELEIVE WE DONT HAVE ANY SLANTS FOR HIM....NOTHING ...EVERY CORNER GIVES HIM A TEN YARD CUSHION ....THROW HIM THE DAMN BALL EVERYTIME YOU SEE THAT.....:banghead:
 

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I've got a better idea, how about catch the pass, or better yet not kinda fake it out there. He does that then you'd have an argument
 

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The offensive play calling appears to be getting more predictable. There were some plays that the Eagles had sniffed out before the snap. That's on the coaches. Where is the aggressive play calling? Where are the trick plays...b/c yes, that is what this team needs now...b/c nothing else is working.

But the real struggles, I would pin it on the defense. The defense is getting almost NO pressure on the QB. Remember that Carolina game when the talk was about unleashing the defense? Seems they've been put back on the shelf since then. They play on their heels from the go.

Our CBs really can't rely on the safties. Whether the safties are back to help or not, its like man-on-man coverage.

The LBs ...where did our much heralded LB corp go? Was Greg Ellis' impact THAT great?! Why has NOBODY stepped up to help? It's like we're playing w/ 10men out there.

BEFORE Ellis' injury (9games): 19sacks (2.1sacks/game)
AFTER Ellis' injury (6games): 10sacks (1.6sacks/game)

The only good and consistant action has come from Matt McBriar and the punt coverage team. He's been our best offensive weapon down the stretch but even his deep punts are pointless when the defense gives up scoring drives of: 89yds, 89yds, 77yds, and 80yds in one game.

I'm not disappointed by this team...I'm disgusted.
 

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STSINAZ;1260655 said:
TO has been doing it all year! while glenn has been making acrobatic catches all year, it isnt even close, why are you even arguing for TO? he has 17 drops

Because apparently BleuStar likes to argue meaningless points. Glenn has been OUTSTANDING for us all year long. He has made catch after acrobatic catch. So what if he misses one catch - that's bound to happen to even the best WR's. But TO has missed critical catch after critical catch ALL YEAR LONG. Last night he dropped no fewer than 3 VERY catchable balls - at least two of which would have made a very big difference inthe game. The Elias Sports Bureau - an independent agent - says he has dropped more balls than any other WR in the league.

Anyone who tries to argue that Glenn is no better than TO in this regard is simply arguing to hear himself argue. The statisics don't support it, the videotape doesn't support it, and anyone with an ounce of intelligence and personal integrity wouldn't either. Facts are facts.

For TO to come out after this game and, yet again, complain shows just how lacking in accountability he is. I never wanted him here, I don't want him here now, and I am THIS FAR from tossing the old "I told you so" into the mix. TO is only OK to have around if everything else is going perfectly. Otherwise, he's a pain in the butt who ought to shut his mouth and either have surgery or CATCH THE DAMN BALL.
 

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Oh_Canada;1260731 said:
He also has 12 td's.

And he would have had more if he'd just shut up and catch the ball. Like I said, he's dropping balls that my 8 year old son would catch. If he can't hang on becuase his fingers hurt then he needs to give up the slot to Hurd or Austin or whoever DOESN'T have torn tendons.
 

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Bleu Star;1260625 said:
Let me translate all of that to you: I'm not getting the ball enough.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75681

No, that is NOT the translation. And your making Terry's whine out to be a selfish whine in order to put him in Owen's category is ludicrous..everyone can see thru it. You've got the MOST unselfish player in the league in TG and trying to make him out to be otherwise is pure nonsense.

The translation is I haven't beeeothced and moaned about not getting the ball AT ALL, as long as we win. Haven't batted an eyelash about the attention Owens gets, haven't said ONE WORD about my personal feeds, targets, or stats all year, and did so gladly in order to WIN. Been the ultimate 'good soldier' and a silent one at that...an example all year at the 'prima donna' wideout postion of what self-sacrifice means. A model to the entire team that personal success pales beside team success.

Now coaches, design a game plan that CAN win.
 

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Shotgun Dave;1261020 said:
Anyone who tries to argue that Glenn is no better than TO in this regard is simply arguing to hear himself argue. The statisics don't support it, the videotape doesn't support it, and anyone with an ounce of intelligence and personal integrity wouldn't either. Facts are facts.

Well, TG is an arse to drop a ball AND then utter any word of complaint immediately following a game in which he did NOTHING to contribute to a win.

Of course, he is NOTHING like Owens, but Owens was supposed to become more like TG, not vice versa. ;)
 

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STSINAZ;1260578 said:
we thought he would make big catches...in every big game besides NO he has dropped a big catch deep down field
Philly
NYGints - had a big 3rd down catch he dropped
The Skins
Last night..

pretty simple catches that would have probably won us the game, he needs to shutup...no one wants his act anymore...the cowboys are tired of it especially after yesterday...

I would disagree. Its on the team and the staff. Owens just speaks when he shouldn't. Don't cry for the ball when you don't catch it then go public with your non sense.
owens would be ok if he didn't propel himself into the spotlight.
 

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LaTunaNostra;1261041 said:
Well, TG is an arse to drop a ball AND then utter any word of complaint immediately following a game in which he did NOTHING to contribute to a win.

Of course, he is NOTHING like Owens, but Owens was supposed to become more like TG, not vice versa. ;)


Exactly. I agree. And, if you cared to dig up my post from about 9 months ago you'd see that I vehemently disagreed with bringing on TO because of this very thing. He is divisive in the locker room and brings everyone else down. I'll admit that it hasn't been as explosive as it could have (which I attribute to BP and the rest of the team trying very hard to pull their punches) but it's clear TO is a prima donna who needs to shut up and play better. Frankly, I wish Romo'd said "Well, I can throw the ball to him every down but he's gotta start catching them more often if I do".
 

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Shotgun Dave;1261020 said:
Because apparently BleuStar likes to argue meaningless points. Glenn has been OUTSTANDING for us all year long. He has made catch after acrobatic catch. So what if he misses one catch - that's bound to happen to even the best WR's. But TO has missed critical catch after critical catch ALL YEAR LONG. Last night he dropped no fewer than 3 VERY catchable balls - at least two of which would have made a very big difference inthe game. The Elias Sports Bureau - an independent agent - says he has dropped more balls than any other WR in the league.

Anyone who tries to argue that Glenn is no better than TO in this regard is simply arguing to hear himself argue. The statisics don't support it, the videotape doesn't support it, and anyone with an ounce of intelligence and personal integrity wouldn't either. Facts are facts.

For TO to come out after this game and, yet again, complain shows just how lacking in accountability he is. I never wanted him here, I don't want him here now, and I am THIS FAR from tossing the old "I told you so" into the mix. TO is only OK to have around if everything else is going perfectly. Otherwise, he's a pain in the butt who ought to shut his mouth and either have surgery or CATCH THE DAMN BALL.


Please don't put words into my mouth. Let me recap for you...

TO and TG both spouted off atthe mouth. TO was just in front of a podium because if he doesn't visit the podium he gets fined. TG had the luxury of spouting off to someone with a pen, paper, and recorder on the side. Never once have I argued one receiver being better than the other. That is not my purpose in presenting an alternative point of view from the popular "hate TO" viewpoint.

Glenn has been outstanding. To has also puit up some very good stats this year. Along with that is the much maligned drop stat made popular this year by ESPN. Who had the most drops last year? No one seems to be able to tell me.

You put play makers in position to make plays. To has not made his loving running deep posts right into double teams every single play. His living has historocally been made running the quick slants to the middle of the field and them killing the other team with YAC. Why don't we throw the quick slant to him? Help me out with that one. Please don't give me the alligator arms argument either please. (deep post...) Say something constructive.

I have always enjoyed TG as a receiver on this team and have never compared one receiver to the other. Now that we have that straight feel free to carry on with your weekly hate TO party.
 
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