It's not just us, Lane Johnson just got a 10 game suspension

Sydla

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Ok. Let's note that. It doesn't follow that because somebody makes mistakes sometimes everything they do is a mistake.

I"ve explained my take on the gameday coaching stuff already, but the primary criticism there was he needed to improve his clock management, and I think he has. You hear a lot about play calling, but one, the coaches all communicate, two, he's no longer calling the plays, and three, the plays all have multiple options and Tony decides how they get executed, and four, we've been pretty good (offensively) under Jason Garrett anyway. A great game day coach (staff, really) is an asset, for sure. But there have been a lot of very successful teams in the league that didn't necessarily excel on game day. The assembled their personnel, had depth, have their responsibilities down cold, and win by out-executing the other guys. That's how it happens most of the time.

And it's because I aspire to be better than 'fairly competitive' that I don't want to change the pieces of the puzzle that actually fit well. We've got limited resources. Use them where they're going to help and don't blow it up and start over because 'if something's not right, then everything's not right.' Give this team an impact pass rusher, another above-average Safety, and some LB depth and we're competing in the NFC right now as it is. I'm not willing to take it apart and start over because fans aren't happy that we took a mediocre team to 8-8 three teams a couple years ago.

We have unlimited resources when it comes to hiring a top notch coaching staff. There's no cap for coaches.
 

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We have unlimited resources when it comes to hiring a top notch coaching staff. There's no cap for coaches.

We're not just limited in terms of dollars. We're limited in terms of time with Tony Romo. We're limited in terms of the number of problem areas we can legitimately address. And, yes, we're limited in terms of cap dollars and draft picks and access to coaches and coordinators we can be successful with. It's a competitive league, and everything is in short supply if it's good.

Which is why, if you think like I do that we've got most of the pieces in place and primarily just need to improve the defensive personnel, you don't want to see us spending time and cycles and effort starting from scratch with the coaching staff. Which also probably means starting from scratch on the offensive and defensive systems. It means changing the objectives for the scouting department for the draft. It might mean changing personnel and responsibilities in the scouting department, too. It could mean changing over the footprint for defensive personnel, etc.

I like the coaches. I like the DC (Linehan I could take or leave). I like the offensive personnel, overall. The owner is headache, but I understand that that's never going to change and the best you can hope for us a guy who can manage the crazy Jerry brings in his wake. The only thing I don't like about the team right now is the overall defensive personnel. So that's why I want to address that and not worry about the other things I don't believe are contributing to the team not being more successful. Pretty simple, really.

I get that a lot of posters don't think that way. They think there are specific areas where the coaching is a liability that aren't going to get better and so the staff needs to be replaced. That's fine, too. That's what message boards are for.
 

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We're not just limited in terms of dollars. We're limited in terms of time with Tony Romo. We're limited in terms of the number of problem areas we can legitimately address. And, yes, we're limited in terms of cap dollars and draft picks and access to coaches and coordinators we can be successful with. It's a competitive league, and everything is in short supply if it's good.

Which is why, if you think like I do that we've got most of the pieces in place and primarily just need to improve the defensive personnel, you don't want to see us spending time and cycles and effort starting from scratch with the coaching staff. Which also probably means starting from scratch on the offensive and defensive systems. It means changing the objectives for the scouting department for the draft. It might mean changing personnel and responsibilities in the scouting department, too. It could mean changing over the footprint for defensive personnel, etc.

I like the coaches. I like the DC (Linehan I could take or leave). I like the offensive personnel, overall. The owner is headache, but I understand that that's never going to change and the best you can hope for us a guy who can manage the crazy Jerry brings in his wake. The only thing I don't like about the team right now is the overall defensive personnel. So that's why I want to address that and not worry about the other things I don't believe are contributing to the team not being more successful. Pretty simple, really.

I get that a lot of posters don't think that way. They think there are specific areas where the coaching is a liability that aren't going to get better and so the staff needs to be replaced. That's fine, too. That's what message boards are for.

We've had this discussion before.

They are wasting Romo's last few good years on this coaching staff IMO. So no, giving Romo the same coaching staff for the last few years, for the sake of continuity isn't a winning strategy for me when that coach has only made the playoffs once in 6 years.
 

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Not sure if you quoted the right post or what point you were making. But Derinyar was agreeing to me saying the opposite of what it seems like you're concluding here.

How's that?

He (or she?) said "But it does seem like outside of Scandrick we never get a break in any of our drug cases which doesn't seem to be the standard."

That sentiment fits right inline with the 'woe is us...the league's out to get us mentality' I referenced earlier.

I referenced you because you "liked" it which makes it seem like you're endorsing his thoughts. Is that the case?
 

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How's that?

He (or she?) said "But it does seem like outside of Scandrick we never get a break in any of our drug cases which doesn't seem to be the standard."

That sentiment fits right inline with the 'woe is us...the league's out to get us mentality' I referenced earlier.

I referenced you because you "liked" it which makes it seem like you're endorsing his thoughts. Is that the case?

Ah, I 'liked' it because I thought he was getting at the Lawrence ruling, which appeared to be pretty ticky-tacky. But then I came back and said 'But that's a league thing that also affects the Cowboys more than a 'league is out to get the Cowboys' thing.' Meaning the league is just making stupidly strict decisions like that across the board.

They did it to the Vikes a few years back. They're doing it to the Eagles now. There was some question whether or not they were doing it to Le'Veon Bell in PIT earlier this offseason. They did give Hardy the run-around re: the length of his suspension from his actions in Carolina. In short, they're draconian about the rules in places where it doesn't make sense to take such a hard line. It just hurts the quality of play across the board and servers no purpose.
 

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Their plan is reasonable? Two firsts, a second, and a third. Plus 26 mill fully guaranteed.

Sam Bradford cost them a 2 and a 4 in addition to Foles. They just gave him a two year deal for 35 mill. 22 mill guaranteed.

They just signed Chase Daniel to a 3 year 21 mill deal. 12 mill guaranteed.

They certainly are in better shape than us in terms of backups and may have their QB of the future but they really had to spend a ton to get there.

If we got Went the price would likely have been or 1, 2, and 3. He sits and our backfield looks awful.

Lynch wasn't on the table. Seattle wanted to stay in the first to get a 5th year out of the pick. We didn't have a first to offer. Plain and simple. Tried to get Lynch, didn't have the juice.
Ok, go read my response on page 3 of the Sturm thread. I laid out my thoughts more thorughly there. See what you think.
 

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Ok, go read my response on page 3 of the Sturm thread. I laid out my thoughts more thorughly there. See what you think.

I already responded to that. It is how we got here.

Also, why do you folks like Spam so much?
 

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I already responded to that. It is how we got here.

Also, why do you folks like Spam so much?
Ha !
Its a Hawaiian thing, everybody eats it.
Its really not bad at all.
Spam and rice, spam musubi. Spam and eggs. Was a WW2 thing, cheap alternative that just stuck.
 
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