It's not just us, Lane Johnson just got a 10 game suspension

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Wentz has all the tools to be very good. Reportedly, he's struggled with mechanics and accuracy in camp, though. He's going to be redshirted this season.

I agree with you for next year and beyond, though. I still think the Eagles should have stayed put and just given Daniels the shot after Bradford moves on. That dude is good enough to be a starter in this league.
Most important part of this, 2nd player overall, to be redshirted. To sit and learn.
But we are currently looking at our late 4th rounder and an UFA as our frontline backups.
Hmmm, damm.
 

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Most important part of this, 2nd player overall, to be redshirted. To sit and learn.
But we are currently looking at our late 4th rounder and an UFA as our frontline backups.
Hmmm, damm.

They're definitely deeper than we are at QB. Then again, they don't have anybody on their roster that can hold a candle to Romo.

But the right move is to redshirt Dak if we can.
 

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I'm sure they're more worried about giving up all those picks for Dustin Vaughan 2.0.
 

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The Austin thing was ridiculous, I agree. The league goes and approves the contract and then hands out the penalty.

We got screwed on that, as well as the Commanders did also. And we got screwed on the Dez catch.
All others really in line with other teams, but it just hits home closer for our team. I have made comments about it before, but mostly in jest. Like we will get more games than other teams. But we don't.

I think the Hardy suspension was a scam in a way. They put it at 10 games, knowing very well it would be fought. So they reduced to 4 games, knowing it would be accepted. I think if truly fought under the rules the dictator put in place, it could have been 2 games. But that is in the past.

I do however feel the Giants, Patriots, Steelers, Packers get some favoritism. Not as much as we joke about, they they do get some. Especially on the field calls or non-calls. There is no way I will ever be convinced otherwise.
 

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Meh, I disagree with most posters on the topic of Jason Garrett, so that's ok. For the record, I do think he bungled the DC hire(s), and that he's not the strongest game day coach. I don't love his scheme, either.

But he's exceptional when it comes to bringing stability to this organization, installing a system, running things efficiently, handling the circus, setting consistent and understandable expectations for the players, and working with a very difficult management structure. He's put together a good staff and scouting department, and generally handled well the media circus that comes with Dallas and an owner who like to run around putting holes in the boat while simultaneously making sure the upper decks have the best of everything. Last year's team lost too many games, for sure, but, yeah, I didn't put many of them on the staff at all.

So for the record, you think he's made bad choices in who he has hired at times, you don't think his scheme is all that good and that he's not a strong game day coach.

Dude, no offense, but you just described a mediocre head coach.

The fact he's brought "stability" to the franchise or runs things efficiently is largely meaningless at that point when you just admitted he's not that great of a coach.
 

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Most important part of this, 2nd player overall, to be redshirted. To sit and learn.
But we are currently looking at our late 4th rounder and an UFA as our frontline backups.
Hmmm, damm.

Hmmmmm, would that be the case if their #2 broke his leg? No.

I don't think it is a good comparison
 

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bet the giants won't get any suspensions since they have one of their biggest fans in the league front offices
 

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bet the giants won't get any suspensions since they have one of their biggest fans in the league front offices

Or maybe they won't get suspensions because their players don't use banned substances
 

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So for the record, you think he's made bad choices in who he has hired at times, you don't think his scheme is all that good and that he's not a strong game day coach.

Dude, no offense, but you just described a mediocre head coach.

The fact he's brought "stability" to the franchise or runs things efficiently is largely meaningless at that point when you just admitted he's not that great of a coach.

None taken. I disagree. Good coaches are in relatively short supply in the league. He wanted Capers when he came in, and it took some time for a first time guy to settle his staff. Yes, he made mistakes but good, experienced coaches make mistakes in the NFL.

The importance of scheme is massively overrated by fans. Most teams do a little of everything and any scheme can be effective if you've got the players. Game days *are* important, but not nearly as important as the other 349 days of the year. Anybody who's even played high school level athletics knows it's what the staff does to prepare you that matters most. Plus, game days are a joint-staff function anyway, that's gotten better with experience and as he's improved his staff.

What hasn't changed is how tough the job in Dallas is. I want a coach who's smart, organized, and who can be a moderating influence on Jerry. Somebody that can draft and develop talent, and somebody that can bring in and work a system. And somebody with respect for Dallas Cowboys football. That's what we've got right now, and there aren't a lot of better options for the job that I can see. There are coaches in the league I like better overall, but not many that I can think of I'd like better for Dallas.
 

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Look I am only using your own words. You don't like his scheme, you think he's not a good game day coach and you've admitted he's made some poor hires.

You can disagree all you want and try to walk back your commentary by now claiming scheme is overrated, but in your own words, you just defined a mediocre head coach.

Another 9-7, 8-8 season out of him, and his butt should be canned.
 

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Look I am only using your own words. You don't like his scheme, you think he's not a good game day coach and you've admitted he's made some poor hires.

You can disagree all you want and try to walk back your commentary by now claiming scheme is overrated, but in your own words, you just defined a mediocre head coach.

Another 9-7, 8-8 season out of him, and his butt should be canned.

Lol. Use my words. I don't mind. I'm not walking back my commentary a bit. I'm telling you what I like about the guy and what I do not. And the positives far outweigh the negatives in my book.

I might have described what you would consider a mediocre coach. That doesn't bother me. Why should it?

We'll see how the upcoming season goes. Not all 8-8s or 9-7s are created equal. Like I always say, there are lots of different reasons teams lose football games. If we're losing games because of the coaching, that's one thing. If we're losing them for other reasons it's obviously another.
 

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They have to hit on Wentz or they will be one of the worst teams in the NFL for a loooong time. They absolutely gutted their draft.

I would not say gutted. I would reserve that for the Washington trade to get RGIII.

They traded 2017 - First round pic.
They traded 2018 - Second round pick.

They had already traded away their 2016 second round pick -

So they got their QB this year and then still had their 3rd round pick.

So they will only have half of their premium picks of players for the next two years.
This will hurt them.
 

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Lol. Use my words. I don't mind. I'm not walking back my commentary a bit. I'm telling you what I like about the guy and what I do not. And the positives far outweigh the negatives in my book.

I might have described what you would consider a mediocre coach. That doesn't bother me. Why should it?

We'll see how the upcoming season goes. Not all 8-8s or 9-7s are created equal. Like I always say, there are lots of different reasons teams lose football games. If we're losing games because of the coaching, that's one thing. If we're losing them for other reasons it's obviously another.

Sure, if Romo goes down, that changes the dynamics.

But if Romo is largely healthy, there are no excuses for this team to spit out another 8-8 or so record.

After 2016, Garrett would have been here for 6 complete seasons. If he goes 8-8 or 9-7 next season and misses the playoffs, that would only one playoff appearance in 6 years. To not question the coaching at that point is just blind homerism in Garrett. It boggles the mind that people would still want him around as head coach if we spit the bit, again, in Year 6.
 

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He's only here to criticize people who actually give the Cowboys the benefit of the doubt.

Lol, "benefit of the doubt?"

How about just letting the facts speak for itself and forming an opinion once enough evidence has been revealed to be adequately informed?

The issue is giving the "benefit of the doubt" is used really just as code for they just gotta be innocent no matter what.

Want examples? I got plenty.
 

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Sure, if Romo goes down, that changes the dynamics.

But if Romo is largely healthy, there are no excuses for this team to spit out another 8-8 or so record.

After 2016, Garrett would have been here for 6 complete seasons. If he goes 8-8 or 9-7 next season and misses the playoffs, that would only one playoff appearance in 6 years. To not question the coaching at that point is just blind homerism in Garrett. It boggles the mind that people would still want him around as head coach if we spit the bit, again, in Year 6.
As much as I agree with you, no way Jerry gets rid of JG. Just by looking at the way we drafted and handled free agency (we drafted moreso for the future instead of right now) and the suspensions, that will be Jerry's reasoning behind keeping him as head coach.
 

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Sure, if Romo goes down, that changes the dynamics.

But if Romo is largely healthy, there are no excuses for this team to spit out another 8-8 or so record.

After 2016, Garrett would have been here for 6 complete seasons. If he goes 8-8 or 9-7 next season and misses the playoffs, that would only one playoff appearance in 6 years. To not question the coaching at that point is just blind homerism in Garrett. It boggles the mind that people would still want him around as head coach if we spit the bit, again, in Year 6.

Out of curiosity, why would I be a homer for thinking the problem is, say, defensive talent as opposed to coaching? Isn't there any room for people to just have different takes on why a team loses football games? Or is there some rule I don't know about where the first person to call the other a homer wins the argument?

Teams lose games. And they lose them for a variety of reasons. The same arguments against Garrett here were used against Gary Kubiak up until last season. I've seen the same applied to Tony Romo.

That's not to say that Jason Garrtt is Gary Kubiak or Tomy Romo. It's only saying that you don't just look at the won/loss record of your team to figure out where the problems are.
 

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Hmmmmm, would that be the case if their #2 broke his leg? No.

I don't think it is a good comparison
Its not a comparison - its a statement on - in my opinion, the misguided belief that we can use a 4th round pick or UFA as the primary backup to our starter. Obviously a different plan by coachinf staffs. As much as i hate the Eagles, their plan seems the more resonable one compared to our hope and a prayer plan. Top that with the Jerry speak, and its a head scrature for sure.
 

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I would not say gutted. I would reserve that for the Washington trade to get RGIII.

They traded 2017 - First round pic.
They traded 2018 - Second round pick.

They had already traded away their 2016 second round pick -

So they got their QB this year and then still had their 3rd round pick.

So they will only have half of their premium picks of players for the next two years.
This will hurt them.

Just like a similar trade hurt the Giants?

Only hurts if the guy doesn't work out
 
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