It's now pretty obvious. We can't score without Romo

[CowboyMike]

Weeden has a career completion percentage of 56 percent, more interceptions than touchdowns and a career QB rating of 72.5. Of the 2 seasons as a starter, 2013s QBR of 21.3 ranked dead last and 2012s 29.4 ranked 29th to go along with a 5-16 record in games he started in his career.

I don't really care who the b/u is, but trying to act like Weeden is NFL caliber in any fashion is pretty ridiculous. If he's starting, you can bank on a loss. At least thats what Vegas will do.

Considering Andrew Luck's completion percentage is 58% compared to Weeden's 56%, I'd say that completion percentage is NFL caliber. It is not great by any means, but it's serviceable, which is what you expect out of a backup.

Weeden's career rating would put him 28th among active qualifying quarterbacks. Again, nothing to write home about, but good enough to be a mediocre starter and better than some other starters in this league.

And please, don't use Weeden's record with the Browns as your qualifying evidence in QBR and win/loss record. It's the Browns. Again...it's the Browns.

And you really need to look at that big picture when citing these states. TD/Int ratio? Only in Weeden's rookie year was he in the negative, with 14 TDs to 17 ints. Again, he was a rookie. On the Browns. His second year he was an average 9/9 in ratio, and last year with the Cowboys he was 3 TDs to 2 Ints.

In fact, his stats with the Cowboys, albeit with limited snaps, improved across the board. That happens sometimes when you go from no talent around you to good talent. Weeden's rating last year was 85.2.

I'm not arguing that Weeden is great or deserves to start anywhere. I'm just saying that he's a serviceable backup. He's going to have bad games and good games. He needs support around him to be successful, but he can be successful. He's a decent backup. We can do a lot worse than him.

 

[JohnsKey19]

We need a serviceable backup qb. If we lose romo down the stretch for a couple key games it's goodbye season. Vaughan is not going to be good. He's basically the Steven McGee project all over again. And Weeden. Yeah I'm very worried

That is true for most every team in the league

Not necessarily. Obviously the contenders become ordinary if they lose their starting QB, but most of them at least can function offensively. The Cowboys go from a top 5 type offense with Romo, to 28th-32nd ranked team offensively w/out him. Weeden and Vaughn are laughable.

 

[Rockport]

Entertaining thread. It's amazing how many fans think they know more than the Cowboys coaches and personnel people.

 

[DandyDon52]

The Minnesota QB henike looked pretty good, and I have seen some others, In philly sanchez is the bkup and he is like having a 2nd starter.
Picking up weedon was a mistake, and vaughn looked ok, but now seems to have regressed.
All you need is a bus driving qb that wont fumble or throw ints, and can complete some passes.

I watched Tanney in 2 games and he looks better than both of ours. They could bring him back very cheap.
Some others may be cut that would be good to work with. they dont have to play until Romo cant play so that might be week 10
so that is plenty of time.

 

[FLcowboy]

That is true for most every team in the league

Except maybe Philadelphia

 

[AzorAhai]

Considering Andrew Luck's completion percentage is 58% compared to Weeden's 56%, I'd say that completion percentage is NFL caliber. It is not great by any means, but it's serviceable, which is what you expect out of a backup.

Weeden's career rating would put him 28th among active qualifying quarterbacks. Again, nothing to write home about, but good enough to be a mediocre starter and better than some other starters in this league.

And please, don't use Weeden's record with the Browns as your qualifying evidence in QBR and win/loss record. It's the Browns. Again...it's the Browns.

And you really need to look at that big picture when citing these states. TD/Int ratio? Only in Weeden's rookie year was he in the negative, with 14 TDs to 17 ints. Again, he was a rookie. On the Browns. His second year he was an average 9/9 in ratio, and last year with the Cowboys he was 3 TDs to 2 Ints.

In fact, his stats with the Cowboys, albeit with limited snaps, improved across the board. That happens sometimes when you go from no talent around you to good talent. Weeden's rating last year was 85.2.

I'm not arguing that Weeden is great or deserves to start anywhere. I'm just saying that he's a serviceable backup. He's going to have bad games and good games. He needs support around him to be successful, but he can be successful. He's a decent backup. We can do a lot worse than him.

The same Browns team that won more games than it lost with Brian Hoyer? The one who had a pretty good defense, OL and when he actually had one of the best recievers in the game in Josh Gordon? Stats don't tell the whole story, but when the stats back up what you see on the field, they're generally pretty accurate. Weeden is a horrible starter and not a dependable b/u. It is what it is.

 

[dwreck27]

I just can't believe we let someone like Mike Vick (spare me the dog b.s he paid his dues to society

He came on with no preseason was slinging the ball... better than anyone on the roster

 

[JD_KaPow]

First, who is this miraculous starter-disguised-as-backup that can come in at the end of camp and pick up the offense?

RG3, obviously.

Second, why is any team with a good backup going to trade him now? Why put themselves in that position?

Because Jay Gruden.

No, I wouldn't trade for Griffin. But I might grab him if they end up cutting him. He's probably broken for good, but there's a chance he isn't. And that's more upside than our current backups offer.

 

[xwalker]

We need a serviceable backup qb. If we lose romo down the stretch for a couple key games it's goodbye season. Vaughan is not going to be good. He's basically the Steven McGee project all over again. And Weeden. Yeah I'm very worried

They'll just call 1-800-QB if they need one.

 

[DeaconBlues]

RG3, obviously.

RG3 has shown, in the last three years, no ability to drop back, read the defense and check down to another receiver if primary isn't open. It's one read, then either run or hold onto the ball for the sack.

Is he better than Vaughn or Showers? Probably, but not by much. Better than Weeden? Not right now.

And Gruden is the coach. He has zero trading authority in DC, otherwise RG3 wouldn't be there now.

 

[SDCowboy]

I just can't believe we let someone like Mike Vick (spare me the dog b.s he paid his dues to society

He came on with no preseason was slinging the ball... better than anyone on the roster

Better than anyone on who's roster?

 

[windjc]

Considering Andrew Luck's completion percentage is 58% compared to Weeden's 56%, I'd say that completion percentage is NFL caliber. It is not great by any means, but it's serviceable, which is what you expect out of a backup.

Weeden's career rating would put him 28th among active qualifying quarterbacks. Again, nothing to write home about, but good enough to be a mediocre starter and better than some other starters in this league.

And please, don't use Weeden's record with the Browns as your qualifying evidence in QBR and win/loss record. It's the Browns. Again...it's the Browns.

And you really need to look at that big picture when citing these states. TD/Int ratio? Only in Weeden's rookie year was he in the negative, with 14 TDs to 17 ints. Again, he was a rookie. On the Browns. His second year he was an average 9/9 in ratio, and last year with the Cowboys he was 3 TDs to 2 Ints.

In fact, his stats with the Cowboys, albeit with limited snaps, improved across the board. That happens sometimes when you go from no talent around you to good talent. Weeden's rating last year was 85.2.

I'm not arguing that Weeden is great or deserves to start anywhere. I'm just saying that he's a serviceable backup. He's going to have bad games and good games. He needs support around him to be successful, but he can be successful. He's a decent backup. We can do a lot worse than him.

My issue with him is his extreme conservative play. It makes it almost impossible to beat a good defense (like the Cards), because they can play 8 in the box and not worry about anything over the top. In some ways this is worse than being less accurate. Weeden grinds the offense to a halt over the course of a game.

 

[Doomsay]

Let's watch the teams that lose starting QBs this year and see. I will post a thread about it if or when it happens.

it happens every season, no need to wait, your job is done.

 

[Doomsay]

Entertaining thread. It's amazing how many fans think they know more than the Cowboys coaches and personnel people.

The coaches know how terrible the backups are, they are just gambling on Tony staying healthy.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The coaches know how terrible the backups are, they are just gambling on Tony staying healthy.

You know, I'll bet that is darn close to the truth.

 

[lane]

we should've took vick, he is at least a threat if romo is out a couple weeks

 

[lane]

R.E.L.A.X.

Weeden would and will be a serviceable backup if
Tony goes down.

You do know that we have a dominant o-line right?

I hope that Minny cuts Heinecke though ...be all over that.

 

[Beast_from_East]

My point is it is not easy. Most teams don't have a good starter must less a backup. If Romo goes down the team is screwed.

Don't we lose to almost every team we play with a backup?

Didn't we lose to Green Bay when they were playing their 8th stringer against us a year or two ago?

 

[Beast_from_East]

R.E.L.A.X.

Weeden would and will be a serviceable backup if
Tony goes down.

You do know that we have a dominant o-line right?

I hope that Minny cuts Heinecke though ...be all over that.

How did that work out last year?

Romo went down and we lost to Colt McCoy......let that sink in for a while

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

How did that work out last year?

Romo went down and we lost to Colt McCoy......let that sink in for a while

Romo was sacked 5 times. It's more about our OL not protecting him. DMurrray fumbled, not recovered. Randle fumbled, not recovered. And our cb's didn't cover DJackson.

Also Colt McCoy had a decent season for a backup. 1,057 yds. 71.1 completion %. 96.4 qb rating.