It's really hard cheering for Jerry Jones team

[Whyjerry]

Jerry is a nauseating character for sure. Stephen is worse. Cheer for the team. The fans. The legends of old. Forget that old dirtbag.

 

[Big_D]

I cheer for the football team despite the 80 year old turd GM.

 

[Runwildboys]

Fantastic! Maybe this will be the year I can make the list and finally knock out Mr. Giant Taco Salad Inventor!

Yeah, reach for the stars, dreamer!

 

[Shane612]

Cheer for the team.

Don't cheer for Jerry Jones.

DallasEast. Problem solver.

You can't cheer for the Cowboys, without cheering for Jerry Jones.
As far as Jerry's concerned, he and the Cowboys are joined at the hips.... which is logical, given the history of his tenure as the Owner/GM/President.
The more success the Cowboys have, the more Jerry gets the credit.
The more people complain and grip about how the team is bad... well, to Jerry, there is no such thing as bad publicity. It keeps him in the news.

 

[Big_D]

And Jimmy couldn't win without Jerry.

this argument for Jerry’s sake is really just ridiculous. How clueless does the GM actually have to look over a 30 year span? Then we’ll pretend he played some intricate part in that team. Not the HC who prepared and game-planned and can actually talk football without looking like a completeazz!

 

[DallasEast]

Yeah, reach for the stars, dreamer!

I'm typing this reply one handed after cracking open an ice-cold Bud Light.



"Anheuser Busch, St. Louis Missouri"

 

[Sheepherder]

this argument for Jerry’s sake is really just ridiculous. How clueless does the GM actually have to look over a 30 year span? Then we’ll pretend he played some intricate part in that team. Not the HC who prepared and game-planned and can actually talk football without looking like a completeazz!

Jerry is in denial and has been for years.

 

[Hadenough]

How exactly has it been "proven"? It's not like Jimmy went on to win more without Jerry. But Jerry did go on to win one without Jimmy. Yes, Jimmy built the team, for the most part, but Jerry paid for it.

They couldn't have won the last one without Deion, and Jimmy had nothing to do with that.

Nothing has been "proven". Besides, Jimmy skipped out exactly when he was planning to all along. I'm not a Jerry lover, but we gotta get real at some point.

It's proven because Jimmy built that team with his knowledge of college players at the time. Jerry hasn't even come close to building a contender for 30 years.

 

[Big_D]

Jerry is in denial and has been for years.

No doubt about that! That denial is exactly what’s been killing this team.

 

[Runwildboys]

It's proven because Jimmy built that team with his knowledge of college players at the time. Jerry hasn't even come close to building a contender for 30 years.

And Jimmy has? Jimmy couldn't have built that team without Jerry's money and willingness to gamble.

Maybe that's why Jimmy left - because he no longer had intimate knowledge of the college players, so he lost confidence in his ability to keep the team a contender.

 

[Big_D]

And Jimmy has? Jimmy couldn't have built that team without Jerry's money and willingness to gamble.

Maybe that's why Jimmy left - because he no longer had intimate knowledge of the college players, so he lost confidence in his ability to keep the team a contender.

Jerry’s money? The team in 1992 was 19th in the league in team salary and lower in 93. Even after paying Aikman and Emmitt. This notion that Jerry bought those championships isn’t the case.

 

[Runwildboys]

Jerry’s money? The team in 1992 was 19th in the league in team salary and lower in 93. Even after paying Aikman and Emmitt. This notion that Jerry bought those championships isn’t the case.

What about the players with the highest salaries, like Emmitt? The team as a whole may not have been getting rich, but I'm sure the players they needed to keep were.

 

[Big_D]

What about the players with the highest salaries, like Emmitt? The team as a whole may not have been getting rich, but I'm sure the players they needed to keep were.

Just like other players around the league. How are you going to credit Jerry for something every team was doing? The players contracts were up and they got paid. Plus they won a championship before that!

 

[FVSTONE]

Does he really deserve to win another Super Bowl? What he did to Jimmy Johnson was egregious and not putting him into the ROH is even more egregious. Plus there are so many incidences of degeneracy. Probably even more that hasn't come to light. Dak is a genuinely good guy so I try to ignore the Jerry component but it's really difficult.

Ya think!

 

[Runwildboys]

Just like other players around the league. How are you going to credit Jerry for something every team was doing? The players contracts were up and they got paid. Plus they won a championship before that!

The players contracts were up and they got paid. Jimmy didn't pay them. Jerry did.

What other owner took a chance on hiring Jimmy from the college ranks? How does the Walker trade get done without Jerry?

It took both of them to build that team. Sure, Jimmy was the idea man, but he doesn't get it done without someone to believe in him and back him.

 

[DallasEast]

As far as Jerry's concerned, he and the Cowboys are joined at the hips.... which is logical, given the history of his tenure as the Owner/GM/President.

True.

The more success the Cowboys have, the more Jerry gets the credit.

True.

The more people complain and grip about how the team is bad... well, to Jerry, there is no such thing as bad publicity. It keeps him in the news.

True.

You can't cheer for the Cowboys, without cheering for Jerry Jones.

False.

Okay. Let's sort through the dots.

Dot #1: Jones' status as owner, general manager, president. Establish 1989. Check.
Dot #2: Jones gets more credit if his team wins more. That happens throughout team sports since the creation of team sports. Check.
Dot #3: Jones has hogged microphones any time there has been a real or imagined negative slant against his franchise many times over the past 33 years. He's a narcissist. It's his thing. Check.

Dot #4...

A fan sits in the stadium. They cheer for a touchdown. It is not directed at Jones. Their cheer was directed at the running back carrying the ball. Or the receiver who caught the ball. Or whomever had possession of the ball and crossed the goal line.

Ditto for a fan sitting on their couch watching the game remotely. It is not directed at Jones also.

Four dots.

Three are squatting in left field of Choctaw Stadium.

One is sipping a tequila in the Bahamas.

An imaginary 1,300 mile line COULD connect all four but... why would it be necessary to create a made up connection that does not exist?

Is this an analogy that makes the assumption intangible cheering has a tangible causal effect? A fan buys a cap at AT&T stadium. The money for the cap ends up in Jones' mans purse. He does not know it is there but it IS there. Fan. Cash. Jones. That's a real connection that can seen and tracked.

Waitasec.

Is Jones imagining he is the one rushing and catching touchdowns and think fans cheering for him scoring? That would make sense. For him that is.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

this argument for Jerry’s sake is really just ridiculous. How clueless does the GM actually have to look over a 30 year span? Then we’ll pretend he played some intricate part in that team. Not the HC who prepared and game-planned and can actually talk football without looking like a completeazz!

It's not that big a deal to me. The point...Jerry and Jimmy created a Championship team together. Jerry did hire Jimmy, and Jimmy did use Jerry's money.

To let it ALL fall on Jimmy is disingenuous. He couldn't do it at Miami. A perfect partnership neither could duplicate. Jimmy just gave up rather than keep trying.

It's not something I'll have to fight ya about...it's a general 30 thousand foot observation...AND....a true fact. You should come to terms with it.

 

[Big_D]

It's not that big a deal to me. The point...Jerry and Jimmy created a Championship team together. Jerry did hire Jimmy, and Jimmy did use Jerry's money.

To let it ALL fall on Jimmy is disingenuous. He couldn't do it at Miami. A perfect partnership neither could duplicate. Jimmy just gave up rather than keep trying.

It's not something I'll have to fight ya about...it's a general 30 thousand foot observation...AND....a true fact. You should come to terms with it.

Jerrys been proving this theory wrong for a long time now. I’ll let his true lack of a resume tell the story.

how’s it disingenuous to put it on the actual football “coach”! Only in Dallas are fans racing to credit this clown. lol there is no argument at all.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Jerrys been proving this theory wrong for a long time now. I’ll let his true lack of a resume tell the story.

how’s it disingenuous to put it on the actual football “coach”! Only in Dallas are fans racing to credit this clown. lol there is no argument at all.

So tell me what Jerry has done in the NFL since the Cowboys?

Building championship teams? If it's all him and only HE knew how to do it...certainly he should have a couple more. He flat out quit trying.

Wow...not giving the owner any credit for championships. That is a new level of hate I've not seen here...until you.

 

[IceBowler]

I think a large majority of the people in here support this team because it’s rooted in them. Not because they want to.

In my case, it's a definite character flaw ..