It's really time for both Dak sides to stop and move on

[rambo2]

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The Ice Bowl.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

It’s never going to stop with the Dak haters. We’re going to continue to hear the same bellyaching for the next four years of this contract unless we win a Super Bowl. Even then someone will continue to complain about him because they have an agenda.

Lol no, it will be that they won in spite of Dak.

They all hate stats when they are good for Dak and say "but he lost," but love them against Cleveland even though they won. These people are barely literate, let alone able to move away from the narrative they hold so dear to their hearts.

 

[AsthmaField]

I've lurked for years, but I thought I had posted once or twice but I guess not. I like what I saw Sunday, but looking good out of the gate hasn't really been the issue. I'm indifferent on Dak. I don't like the contract, but at the same time I don't like the idea of moving on without another qb and I don't believe Trey is the answer. I think Jerry cares and wants to win, but lacks the GM skills to do so. He's proven that IMO. As for the Reds, I don't think their ownership cares about winning at all.

Welcome to the jungle…

 

[John813]

Dak is here for 3 years minimum. If he does great awesome, I just want the Cowboys to win in the postseason.
If he does poorly, that will suck, as it will be an anchor on the team.
So, I hope he does well and gets the playoff monkey off his back.

I wish some would just stop derailing threads or repeating the same argument for years. He's here, accept it.

 

[KJJ]

Lol no, it will be that they won in spite of Dak.

That’s exactly what they’ll do. They’ll start lumping Dak in with Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson, even if our defense isn’t close to the defenses they had.

 

[blueblood70]

I think the way they structured Dak's cap hits was stupid. He's an 89M dollar cap hit next year and 32% of the cap. That's historically bad. They should have put most of the cap hit on this year since we're not getting any more players. But no. They lowered this year's cap hit for absolutely no reason.

Not really!!??

I think that some of you think you know everything about the cap? YOU DONT!

they did it on purpose ,they're not stupid ,they know more about the cap than you the money they're saving this year from Prescott, steele ,&lambs, they just redid steel it carries over in the next year..

it's all pushed in the next year, that means the regular cap doesn't apply, there will be a larger cap pool for them to utilize, I think they know what they're doing literally you called them stupid again ,

you think they sat there and just overlook this and get it by accident and now they're like, oh what we do we move too much to next year? As if they made a mistake it just happened to wake up and realize ohh man I wish we would have consulted the Internet world on how to run our $10 billion franchise...!!!!!!!



Jerry and Stephen do not do this on their own, they have lawyers ,they have CPA's, they have people that are smarter than you that handles the cap., FACT.. They might not be a top five executive team up there but they sure aren't the worst in the NFL... I think they understand the cap and they have it handled they don't need your help..lmao

 

[blueblood70]

I've lurked for years, but I thought I had posted once or twice but I guess not. I like what I saw Sunday, but looking good out of the gate hasn't really been the issue. I'm indifferent on Dak. I don't like the contract, but at the same time I don't like the idea of moving on without another qb and I don't believe Trey is the answer. I think Jerry cares and wants to win, but lacks the GM skills to do so. He's proven that IMO. As for the Reds, I don't think their ownership cares about winning at all.

Lacks the GM skills in which way which part of his GM skills not going all in not playing high risk aggressive football in the offseason because outside of free agency they're one of the best drafting teams in the league they know which players they should keep they pretty much pay their superstars they've been top six in the league in regular season win percentage they're starting two teams in the league you're saying they don't know what they're doing that that's what you're saying I mean literally accidentally won 36 games two division titles and been to the playoffs 5 out of the last eight years? They did all this by accident?

If they were as bad as some of you all accused him of we'd be one of the bottom 10 teams in the league not the ones that are losing in the playoffs you're complaining about a team that's been to the playoffs 5 out of the last eight years and is beating one of the best GM's right I mean is that what you say Howie roseman's a genius I mean how is it we took two division titles out of last three years why did our team not collapse down the stretch in his did?

How about we just call it like we see it there may be better GM's in this league they may not be top five but they're right in the next group of people because they have kept this going regardless of bringing in big name free agents they found a way to make this team relative still playing on prime time still winning divisions and still being in the playoffs...

I get when someone says they're probably not the best front office in the league they don't risk enough to possibly maybe sort of if we could look into the future win a Super Bowl but there's a whole lot of teams not making the Super bowl you realize that the geniuses over there at the 49ers yes they're better than us but not by much 1994 that's their last Super Bowl win this is about wins right this isn't about the runner up and I wanna get back to an NFC championship game as well so don't bring that up either I'm saying that you need to reword things they don't have any GM skills at all you might wanna look at the team because the team is winning the team is relative the team is one of the top six teams in the league on a regular basis that means there's a lot of regular GM's that are just horrible at their jobs I mean I don't even know what word to use because if you think they don't know what they're doing why is it all the other ones are finishing below Jerry's teams?

 

[irishline]

It’s never going to stop with the Dak haters. We’re going to continue to hear the same bellyaching for the next four years of this contract unless we win a Super Bowl. Even then someone will continue to complain about him because they have an agenda.

Replace "haters" with "lovers", and "complain" with "blindly support" and you see the same thing. This is the problem, you both badger and bash each other over and over, in every thread possible. I get frustrated reading any thread anymore because one side just has to start, and the other side just has to retaliate, then the thread gets taken over. Both sides of this are to blame, to say otherwise is completely disingenuous.

For the record, I have never used the term hater or lover, or anything else for that matter. I root for all Cowboys. I cheer them when they do well. I complain when they don't. It is that simple. Don't get why there has to be "he sucks" or "he's awesome" at all costs about any player that wears the star, but that is just me (and all of the fans caught between the two sides I suppose).

 

[blueblood70]

Dak is here for 3 years minimum. If he does great awesome, I just want the Cowboys to win in the postseason.
If he does poorly, that will suck, as it will be an anchor on the team.
So, I hope he does well and gets the playoff monkey off his back.

I wish some would just stop derailing threads or repeating the same argument for years. He's here, accept it.

That's the same narrative for all the other quarterbacks in the top ten in money right now I mean you the all the fan base that just say the same thing there's only one team that's winning Super Bowls on a regular basis that their quarterbacks are not an anchor and that would be Patrick mahomes who is the only elite quarterback out of that group,

that go look at the rest of them.... and tell me how they're so much better in the playoffs and how they're winning Super Bowls? That old narrative 95 quarterbacks have been drafted since 2016 when Prescott was drafted and only one of them has won a Super Bowl just one?

So all those contracts especially at quarterback but let's not leave out the fact that there are pass rushers making $30 million a year and wide receivers making $35 million a year that are not helping their teams win Super Bowls.....​

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why is this just about the quarterback?? yeah I know they have the biggest contract,​

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but when you add up all the skill players together that the teams have that their top paid players,, say there's five or six of them on every team, they're an anchors as well...​

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I mean they should be blamed when they're not winning Super Bowls there's not enough talk about skill players both on the Dallas Cowboys and have been highly paid around here over the years and all around the NFL that are also not winning Super Bowls and yet they're not being talked about as playoff failures for them but yes they are very much so as much to blame when your offensive line isn't blocking when you're highly paid running back isn't running well when your best defensive players are not at their best in the big games in the big moments and that is what's been happening here for the last 28 years not just the quarterback and really not really the quarterback's fault..​

 

[MyFairLady]

It is great to be happy and excited and optimistic about the season and about Dak. It is also perfectly reasonable to be indifferent assuming the season will end the same way it always does. If they would have lost to Green Bay in a hard fought game where everyone played good you could easily say hey we should be even better we will get them next time. Unfortunately they were all dog walked like little ******.

 

[KJJ]

Replace haters with lovers and you see the same thing. This is the problem, you both badger and bash each other over and over, in every thread possible. I get frustrated reading any thread anymore because one side just has to start, and the other side just has to retaliate, then the thread gets taken over. Both sides of this are to blame, to say otherwise is completely disingenuous.

I’m no Dak lover. I’m a Dak realist. He’s a very good QB and that’s just keeping it real. If we didn’t extend him, we would have been stuck in 2025 having to decide on a carousel of journeyman QBs. You have fans coming on here saying Dak sucks and isn’t a quality NFL QB which couldn’t be farther from the truth. When a fan starts comparing him to Quincy Carter, that’s just someone being an idiot. None of the fans that support Dak go overboard about him. They all realize he has flaws just like every QB in the league but the Dak haters expect perfection and when the Cowboys lose a football game, they put the entire blame on him.

Despite a solid performance and a two score win on the road against a team we were underdogs against, you still have fans criticizing his performance. No one is to blame for wanting him to be our QB because we have nothing behind him. The fans that are to blame are the ones that keep bashing him repeatedly day after day, claiming we would have just as good as chance, if not better of reaching a Super Bowl with a low priced castoff QB. There’s fans on this board still claiming Trey Lance is better than Dak despite the preseason he had. They’re trying to spin if he’s given an opportunity with our starters he’ll light it up.

 

[DallasEast]

 

[Havic]

I’ll just continue to call it as I see it in regards to dak. I’ve given him credit and criticism and will continue to do so when it’s warranted. The owner won’t hold him accountable nor the coaches only the fanbase

 

[Rockport]

I’ll just continue to call it as I see it in regards to dak. I’ve given him credit and criticism and will continue to do so when it’s warranted. The owner won’t hold him accountable nor the coaches only the fanbase

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

There's a fair number of people in here that would have absolutely nothing to talk about if they moved on.

Exactly. I thought about pulling up all the ridiculous posts made over the last few months but it’s no point. At the end of the day he’s here and he’s not going anywhere.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I’ll just continue to call it as I see it in regards to dak. I’ve given him credit and criticism and will continue to do so when it’s warranted. The owner won’t hold him accountable nor the coaches only the fanbase

Hold him accountable for what exactly? He knows what he needs to do. Will he do it? That’s the 240 million dollar question lol

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I've dropped it for now, because it's a moot point for the next few years.

Be prepared, though, as another great regular season followed up with a one and done playoff job is only going to bring this debate roaring back.

I mean look at your attitude. At this point it’s more important to be right on us failing to be wrong on us succeeding.

 

[CWR]

I've dropped it for now, because it's a moot point for the next few years.

Be prepared, though, as another great regular season followed up with a one and done playoff job is only going to bring this debate roaring back.

Dude we won convincingly and the debate is still ongoing. There will be no waiting.

 

[MyFairLady]

Hold him accountable for what exactly? He knows what he needs to do. Will he do it? That’s the 240 million dollar question lol

His team showed up for the playoffs completely unprepared. They quit before half time. They were tired and wanted to go home. He was awful. We hold him accountable.

Like it or not until proven otherwise we have a team full of cry babies that pull down their pants and bend over at the first sign of adversity.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

His team showed up for the playoffs completely unprepared. They quit before half time. They were tired and wanted to go home. He was awful. We hold him accountable.

Like it or not until proven otherwise we have a team full of cry babies that pull down their pants and bend over at the first sign of adversity.

I mean I get that I just don’t know how this is holding them accountable. Crying about past failures doesn’t really hold them accountable.