It's so unfortunate - We're on the cusp...

We are so far away from being a serious playoff contender, that we are a tiny dot in the rear view mirror of teams like the Saints, Packers, Niners.

Unless some major changes are made with Players, coaches, and with how the GM runs things I'm done with expecting this team to get any where. I fully expect the same or worst next season if things stay how they currently are with Garrett as Head COach and with Jerry controlling things as he does
 
Bleu Star;4350843 said:
I thought so too... I guess if you look at an accumulation of the last several years, more can be said for the need to draft better. Last year was indeed a step in the right direction. We hit on our top three picks and have a couple of other good possibles as well....

Tyron (HIT)
Bruce (not doubt will be a HIT IMO)
DeMarco (Jackpot)
Arkin (Possible)
Harris (Possible)

You can't ask for much more in a draft.

I agree on the draft . DeMarco may end up the steal of the draft.
I agree on this whole cusp idea as well. We lost alot of close games this year.
Moving forward Bring in the best FA CB and draft another one. Add a little more pressure to help the secondary. Stay Healthy Miles!!! We droped below the Eagles and Giants in the draft we should have a favorable schedule next year. A full year to let Ryan get his schem to work. Pressure on the QB can go a long ways to solving our defensive problems. One last thing find a secondary coach that teaches TURN AND FIND THE BALL technique. Keep drafting OL in the early rounds.
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With a good front office and talent evaluation, an organization can build a contender in a just a couple seasons, even when starting from nothing.

Consider the Detroit Lions. They were 0-16 in 2008, and then gutted their entire team from the front office down to the water boy. Three years later, they're in the playoffs. I contend they would've been a borderline playoff team last year if Stafford hadn't gotten injured.

It's unfathomable the Dallas Cowboys would be looking to a hapless franchise such as the Detroit Lions for its paradigm, but unfortunately, we're at such a point.
 
ScipioCowboy;4351731 said:
With a good front office and talent evaluation, an organization can build a contender in a just a couple seasons, even when starting from nothing.

Consider the Detroit Lions. They were 0-16 in 2008, and then gutted their entire team from the front office down to the water boy. Three years later, they're in the playoffs. I contend they would've been a borderline playoff team last year if Stafford hadn't gotten injured.

It's unfathomable the Dallas Cowboys would be looking to a hapless franchise such as the Detroit Lions for its paradigm, but unfortunately, we're at such a point.

Except Detroit started their current turnaround by firing their GM.
 
LOBO7;4351716 said:
I agree on the draft . DeMarco may end up the steal of the draft.
I agree on this whole cusp idea as well. We lost alot of close games this year.
Moving forward Bring in the best FA CB and draft another one. Add a little more pressure to help the secondary. Stay Healthy Miles!!! We droped below the Eagles and Giants in the draft we should have a favorable schedule next year. A full year to let Ryan get his schem to work. Pressure on the QB can go a long ways to solving our defensive problems. One last thing find a secondary coach that teaches TURN AND FIND THE BALL technique. Keep drafting OL in the early rounds.
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Every team is "on the cusp" if you think about it. This league is so competitive that the right moves in the off-season combined with a little luck can propel any team forward, especially if they have a good QB.
 
I still haven't heard a logical reason for completely blowing this team up. We are not one to two players away. I never intimated that. We are another strong draft and some FA moves away from being good enough to be very competitive. The key is letting Rob Ryan revamp "his" defense. The powers that be have to give Rob the room to truly place his stamp on D. We truly are one good defense away. As emotional as you may feel, we can still build a team of talented future leaders around Romo, Witten, and Ware.

My general opinion of the current roster:

Offense

QB: Romo still has a few good years left in him. Get a real backup in here. Bring someone in that can backup Romo and take over if he were no longer here. Start preparing for that reality by bringing in a quality backup.

RB: DeMarco is the future. Felix can complement him well as a nice change of pace. Bring in a good young short yardage guy. Don't blow the bank on this position. We have more pressing needs elsewhere.

FB: Fiammetta is nice. He blocks well and can catch the ball out of the backfield. Bring him back.

TE: Witten still has a few good years left in him. Bennett can go. The project is over imo and he is not worthy of continued development efforts. Phillips is a solid compliment to Witten. Bring in another TE to back them both up and contribute on STs.

WR: Dez really needs to begin to step it up next year. He should already be contributing more than he has been. The fact that a journeyman WR comes in and cements himself over Dez as Tony’s favorite target is a little disconcerting to me. Now.. I love Laurent Robinson. Call him whatever you want. A #3 WR, a hybrid between a #1 and #2.. Whatever you call him, just don’t call him employed by any other teams next year. That guy just makes plays. I’m very impressed by his body of work in limited time on the squad. Miles really needs to do some soul searching. He should be the clear #1 WR on this team but he appears to be in the process of regression. He needs to rededicate himself in the offseason.

Oline: I was on record as loving the direction the FO took by going with this young hungry line this year and still love it. I can’t say I am in love with our options at Center or any of our options at Guard. Our interior line needs some work now that the offseason is upon us. I think we’re set at the Tackle positions only if we move Tyron to LT and Free over to RT in the offseason. Free will do fine when not having to face every team’s premier pass rusher every single snaps. He has proven that he can’t handle that responsibility this season. Tyron is ready for the additional responsibility. That guy is a beast. Shore up the interior line. Perhaps draft a Guard or Center in the middle rounds and give DeMarco something to really get behind next year.

Defense

Dline: Sean Lissemore (7th round, 2010 draft) has really risen to the role of a difference maker this year. I reference the draft for those out there that think we have just snoozed through the last two drafts… :rolleyes: That’s one cog to build around on the Dline. Ware still has a few good years left in him. We need a second compliment to Ware that can pressure the QB on the other side. Spencer shows flashes but is not the answer. The continuity is not there. Get some competition in here for Spencer and make him uncomfortable with regard to his role on the team. Light a fire. We need another DT (actually a gigantic plugger in the middle) to cement that 3-4 defense. Increase the size in the middle of the Dline to help with stopping the run and get another premier pass rusher in here.

LB: Bradie James is on the down stroke. He shows flashes but is largely nonexistent when out there on the field. Work Bruce Carter in next year alongside Lee; (2nd round, 10201 draft) :rolleyes: Carter and Lee are the future and should both be on the field regularly. Do not bring Brooking back. Please let that guy go… He is at the point in his career where everything is a step too fast for him. I was tired of seeing him in chase mode early on in the season. Bradie James should be reduced to backing Carter up next year. At least if I have any say so, that’s how it would go.

Secondary: Where do I start here? This is one area of the team that I would truly “blow up”. Newman is done. Last night’s game clearly showed what can happen when you string it out for too long at a skill position. He is done. Seriously… It has been nice watching him play over the years. He has always had a knack for just quietly getting the job done. Well, he’s quietly not getting the job done now. Gotta go. Jenkins? I think he can continue to grow in Rob’s scheme but he needs help from the inside. Every CB could use a little help at times. The teams with really good safeties tend to find themselves in great position for INTs and knock downs regularly. Our safeties blow. There’s no if, ands, or buts about it. I actually like Elam more than Sensei. They’re both second grade imo but Sensei is a train wreck. He makes one good play and then gets, burnt on three subsequent plays regularly. I don’t get the logic around paying these guys long term contracts. I would have left the secondary wide open and I still don’t think it’s out of the question to cut some of these guys of Rob feels the need to so do. We may just have to absorb some “mistake money”. People like Ball and Frank Walker are already pink slips to me. No need to discuss them. Scandrick? I really like Scandrick and think he can step his game up with the right coaching behind him. He has been taught be the venerable Dave Campo to never turn around to locate the ball. Play the receiver. That might have worked in the 80s but it doesn’t work today. Perhaps if Campo was put out to pasture and a more progressive secondary coach was brought in, Scandrick might be salvageable. I get the feeling that he is doing what he needs to do to appease the coach without making waves. Hopefully Rob Ryan feels the same way I do about Campo and makes himself known in the offseason.
 
LOBO7;4351716 said:
I agree on the draft . DeMarco may end up the steal of the draft.
I agree on this whole cusp idea as well. We lost alot of close games this year.
Moving forward Bring in the best FA CB and draft another one. Add a little more pressure to help the secondary. Stay Healthy Miles!!! We droped below the Eagles and Giants in the draft we should have a favorable schedule next year. A full year to let Ryan get his schem to work. Pressure on the QB can go a long ways to solving our defensive problems. One last thing find a secondary coach that teaches TURN AND FIND THE BALL technique. Keep drafting OL in the early rounds.
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We're both squarely on the same page. The only thing I see differently is our schedule next year. I think it's going to be a lot more difficult as I believe we are playing the AFC North next year.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/39290/afc-north-2012-opponents
 
Bleu Star;4350580 said:
The Cowboys organization likes to coddle players. Make them feel more comfortable than they should be... A comfortable player is a player that's not going to challenge himself day in and day out imo. A lot of the coddling comes directly from Jerry. It is what it is. Stephen is the only one that can possibly challenge that culture and be successful in doing so. I have always said competition only makes you stronger. Less coddling and more competiiton would be a good start.

Good post.
 
Bleu Star;4350292 said:
I'm going against my better judgment and posting tonight while the emotion is still extremely high...

Something about this makeup wreaks. We have talented players and talent at the coaching level. Let me first of all give major credit to Romo. That guy played manly with a hand that was still smarting. In stark contrast, people like Newman, Scandrick, Ball, Elam, and Sensebaugh all played like they barely deserved to start at the Canadian Football level... We simply must give Rob Ryan the opportunity to select the players that fit his system. This sad cast of characters on Defense has no idea where they need to be (with a few exceptions like Sean Lee). Build this defense around Lee NOW. If I were a decision maker at Valley Ranch, I would be handing out pink slips on the plane home tonight. Hey.. It was nice but you obviously aren't going to work out and I want to give you the earliest opportunity to catch on elsewhere in the NFL... BYE!

Romo is still one of the best QBs in the league when protected well. As much as I have professed my love for Doug Free in the past, he has regressed in a major way this year. They need to continue to build that line around a fine addition in Tyron. I think there's some young talent that can be molded into a strength if a few pieces are added along with a new coach. Houck? Pink slip sir...

Speaking of coaches... I'm sorry but Dave Campo should not be employed by the Dallas Cowboys next year. His style of coaching was fine in the 80s but today's secondary must be location aware at all times. The fact that the secondary doesn't look back to find the ball bugs the crap out of me. I feel they're being taught in a manner that just doesn't fit in today's progressive style of defense where the CBs need to guard against a number of different types of passes incl the back shoulder fade. We never look back and it allows teams to just move the ball right down the field on us. Old news... Dave Campo? Pink is your color. Bye.

Demarco, Tyron, Sean Lee, Romo... Build a team around these guys.

Lastly, I have been thinking this for the past few weeks but have purposely kept it to myself. I believe in giving the benefit of the doubt until my hunch is proven wrong. I firmly believe Garrett is stretched too thin right now. We really need to consider bringing in an offensive coordinator to allow a young maturing HC to concentrate solely on being a head coach. If we are to continue to follow the Garrett train, he needs to have another conductor to help move things along. Whether it's Sparano, Turner, or some other "proven" OC... Garrett needs help.

Why did I state that we're on the cusp in the title? I firmly believe that a little tweaking here and there will place us where we want to be. We already have a high powered offense. Tweak that Oline a little. Consider possibly bringing in a QB and RB as solid backups. Allow Rob Ryan to shop for his groceries. Standing pat is not an option. Let's get to tweaking...

:laugh2: That's funny right there, it said as though the organization really cares about them catching on so we'll cut you on the plane for your own good. Honestly we don't care where you end up as long as it's not here.
 
Bleu Star;4350437 said:
Ok. Let me rephrase for those of you that are more emotional than I am right now.. We are not at a point of completely deconstructing this team. We have a wealth of talent but lack the heart that it takes to come up big in big games. We need better leadership both on and off the field. No doubt.

That said, do you completely deconstruct this team or do you add the pieces that we're missing (both in the lineup and at the coaching level)?

This team needs to be deconstructed. The funk of Bill Parcells still lingers. No one, and I mean no one should be considered a sacred cow. If other teams offer picks for Romo, Ware, and others, then they should be entertained.

This team needs to be gutted and rebuilt, with new leaders stepping up to the plate. The current rag tag bunch isn't getting it done, and keeping the nucleus won't make this team better, as the funk will still linger.
 
birdwells1;4352601 said:
:laugh2: That's funny right there, it said as though the organization really cares about them catching on so we'll cut you on the plane for your own good. Honestly we don't care where you end up as long as it's not here.

Strictly business man. Pink slips in the plane. It's never too early to set the tone for 2012.
 
This team needs ALOT of help....JJ needs to open up the wallet and get some guys in here that can immediately help....plus, drafting good SMART players....not the type that make boneheaded decisions.
 
Jimz31;4353372 said:
This team needs ALOT of help....JJ needs to open up the wallet and get some guys in here that can immediately help....plus, drafting good SMART players....not the type that make boneheaded decisions.

Agree Jim. Regarding smart players, I think we are on the right track with Lee, Tyron, DeMarco, and Carter. We are methodically building a new nucleus and that should continue in the offseason.
 
Bleu Star;4351821 said:
I still haven't heard a logical reason for completely blowing this team up. We are not one to two players away. I never intimated that. We are another strong draft and some FA moves away from being good enough to be very competitive. The key is letting Rob Ryan revamp "his" defense. The powers that be have to give Rob the room to truly place his stamp on D. We truly are one good defense away. As emotional as you may feel, we can still build a team of talented future leaders around Romo, Witten, and Ware.

My general opinion of the current roster:

Offense

QB: Romo still has a few good years left in him. Get a real backup in here. Bring someone in that can backup Romo and take over if he were no longer here. Start preparing for that reality by bringing in a quality backup.

RB: DeMarco is the future. Felix can complement him well as a nice change of pace. Bring in a good young short yardage guy. Don't blow the bank on this position. We have more pressing needs elsewhere.

FB: Fiammetta is nice. He blocks well and can catch the ball out of the backfield. Bring him back.

TE: Witten still has a few good years left in him. Bennett can go. The project is over imo and he is not worthy of continued development efforts. Phillips is a solid compliment to Witten. Bring in another TE to back them both up and contribute on STs.

WR: Dez really needs to begin to step it up next year. He should already be contributing more than he has been. The fact that a journeyman WR comes in and cements himself over Dez as Tony’s favorite target is a little disconcerting to me. Now.. I love Laurent Robinson. Call him whatever you want. A #3 WR, a hybrid between a #1 and #2.. Whatever you call him, just don’t call him employed by any other teams next year. That guy just makes plays. I’m very impressed by his body of work in limited time on the squad. Miles really needs to do some soul searching. He should be the clear #1 WR on this team but he appears to be in the process of regression. He needs to rededicate himself in the offseason.

Oline: I was on record as loving the direction the FO took by going with this young hungry line this year and still love it. I can’t say I am in love with our options at Center or any of our options at Guard. Our interior line needs some work now that the offseason is upon us. I think we’re set at the Tackle positions only if we move Tyron to LT and Free over to RT in the offseason. Free will do fine when not having to face every team’s premier pass rusher every single snaps. He has proven that he can’t handle that responsibility this season. Tyron is ready for the additional responsibility. That guy is a beast. Shore up the interior line. Perhaps draft a Guard or Center in the middle rounds and give DeMarco something to really get behind next year.

Defense

Dline: Sean Lissemore (7th round, 2010 draft) has really risen to the role of a difference maker this year. I reference the draft for those out there that think we have just snoozed through the last two drafts… :rolleyes: That’s one cog to build around on the Dline. Ware still has a few good years left in him. We need a second compliment to Ware that can pressure the QB on the other side. Spencer shows flashes but is not the answer. The continuity is not there. Get some competition in here for Spencer and make him uncomfortable with regard to his role on the team. Light a fire. We need another DT (actually a gigantic plugger in the middle) to cement that 3-4 defense. Increase the size in the middle of the Dline to help with stopping the run and get another premier pass rusher in here.

LB: Bradie James is on the down stroke. He shows flashes but is largely nonexistent when out there on the field. Work Bruce Carter in next year alongside Lee; (2nd round, 10201 draft) :rolleyes: Carter and Lee are the future and should both be on the field regularly. Do not bring Brooking back. Please let that guy go… He is at the point in his career where everything is a step too fast for him. I was tired of seeing him in chase mode early on in the season. Bradie James should be reduced to backing Carter up next year. At least if I have any say so, that’s how it would go.

Secondary: Where do I start here? This is one area of the team that I would truly “blow up”. Newman is done. Last night’s game clearly showed what can happen when you string it out for too long at a skill position. He is done. Seriously… It has been nice watching him play over the years. He has always had a knack for just quietly getting the job done. Well, he’s quietly not getting the job done now. Gotta go. Jenkins? I think he can continue to grow in Rob’s scheme but he needs help from the inside. Every CB could use a little help at times. The teams with really good safeties tend to find themselves in great position for INTs and knock downs regularly. Our safeties blow. There’s no if, ands, or buts about it. I actually like Elam more than Sensei. They’re both second grade imo but Sensei is a train wreck. He makes one good play and then gets, burnt on three subsequent plays regularly. I don’t get the logic around paying these guys long term contracts. I would have left the secondary wide open and I still don’t think it’s out of the question to cut some of these guys of Rob feels the need to so do. We may just have to absorb some “mistake money”. People like Ball and Frank Walker are already pink slips to me. No need to discuss them. Scandrick? I really like Scandrick and think he can step his game up with the right coaching behind him. He has been taught be the venerable Dave Campo to never turn around to locate the ball. Play the receiver. That might have worked in the 80s but it doesn’t work today. Perhaps if Campo was put out to pasture and a more progressive secondary coach was brought in, Scandrick might be salvageable. I get the feeling that he is doing what he needs to do to appease the coach without making waves. Hopefully Rob Ryan feels the same way I do about Campo and makes himself known in the offseason.

No rebuttal.. Yeah... Figures.. :rolleyes:
 

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