It's so unfortunate - We're on the cusp...

Double Trouble;4350637 said:
Put it in 3" headlines: this team is going nowhere as long as Jerry Jones is running the show.

:hammer:

Jerry Jones is mentally ill in the respect that he HAS to have credit for the success of the team.

He'd rather lose than have the perception that a real GM or a coach was the reason for winning or he'd never have let Jimmy leave.

A really great owner would have backed up an armored truck full of money to a coach's front door that had won two super bowls.

Instead, our "best owner in sports" gets drunk and runs his mouth about how 500 coaches could win with his team and hires some bumpkin to prove it.

That team should have won 4 or 5 championships in a row, but no, "best owner in sports" wasn't getting the credit he "deserved".
 
ManicDepressiveMan;4350767 said:
:hammer:

Jerry Jones is mentally ill in the respect that he HAS to have credit for the success of the team.

He'd rather lose than have the perception that a real GM or a coach was the reason for winning or he'd never have let Jimmy leave.

A really great owner would have backed up an armored truck full of money to a coach's front door that had won two super bowls.

Instead, our "best owner in sports" gets drunk and runs his mouth about how 500 coaches could win with his team and hires some bumpkin to prove it.

That team should have won 4 or 5 championships in a row, but no, "best owner in sports" wasn't getting the credit he "deserved".

Jerry is a lot like T.O. They both have a burning desire to win, but that passion comes with a qualification -- it has to come on their terms, with them getting all the glory.
 
utrunner07;4350404 said:
We are not on the cusp, you and others have been saying we are on the cusp for years and yet such a cusp never materializes. You're wrong, but not more so than the owner. This team is on the cusp of nothing.

Saved me some typing.
 
utrunner07;4350404 said:
We are not on the cusp, you and others have been saying we are on the cusp for years and yet such a cusp never materializes. You're wrong, but not more so than the owner. This team is on the cusp of nothing.

But if we add Pacman and Tank Johnson, I'm fairly certain that we can ...
 
Looking at it from a big picture, we shouldn't be surprised we went 8-8 this year. A lot of folks had us pegged as being a team in rebuilding mode, what with a new offensive line and a defense in transition.

The issue I have is we have a soon-to-be-32-year-old QB, a head coach who hasn't shown to be the best decision maker in crunch time, and a mistake-prone culture where we constantly shoot ourselves in the foot.

If we're rebuilding, what are we trying to mold here? And why, no matter who the head coach, has our season ended in absolute failure in about 80 percent of the last five or so seasons?

Only in 2009 did the arrow appear to be pointing upward. Back then, it looked like we finally got over the hump and learned how to win a playoff game, before being knocked off by a better Minnesota team. We looked liked a team that needed to rebuild the offensive line, get better at kicker and off we'd go.

Then came last season and the 0-and-whatever start. Add in the way we ended this year, the bobbled snap to end the '06 season, the playoff flameout in '07 and the disastrous '08 season and, holy hell, we're amid a pretty rough stretch of Cowboys history here.
 
Dale;4350800 said:
Only in 2009 did the arrow appear to be pointing upward. Back then, it looked like we finally got over the hump and learned how to win a playoff game, before being knocked off by a better Minnesota team. We looked liked a team that needed to rebuild the offensive line, get better at kicker and off we'd go..

And instead we largely stood pat.

More mind numbingly, after a 6-10 season with the defense putting in a franchise worst ever performance we also largely stood pat. Well except to release 3 OLmen without anything but Smith to replace them with. We compounded that by giving extensions to several of our more mediocre players, including Free, Scandrick and Sensy.

We may be perennially on the cusp, because the owner seems happy to be there.
 
Dale;4350782 said:
Jerry is a lot like T.O. They both have a burning desire to win, but that passion comes with a qualification -- it has to come on their terms, with them getting all the glory.

This is absolutely correct and it's a shame.

What Jerry doesn't realize is, if he were to bring in a GM to restructure everything, and the the plan succeeded, he would be absolutely adored by the fan base and respected nationally. I think he believes otherwise.

Would he take a few shots from the media, of course, but if we were winners again people would respect him as an owner who places his considerable resources in the hands of good football people, they would not deride him for the years of mediocrity.

He thinks if he steps aside it will be nothing but 'i told you so's' for the rest of his life when his team is successful 'without him'.

I just don't believe that would be the case.
 
wileedog;4350822 said:
And instead we largely stood pat.

More mind numbingly, after a 6-10 season with the defense putting in a franchise worst ever performance we also largely stood pat. Well except to release 3 OLmen without anything but Smith to replace them with. We compounded that by giving extensions to several of our more mediocre players, including Free, Scandrick and Sensy.

We may be perennially on the cusp, because the owner seems happy to be there.

Scandrick is puzzling but I think Garrett is rebuilding this team and knows what he is doing. I don't think we will have any more completely wasted drafts because Garrett is football smart. He was willing to wait a year for Carter because he knew one player wouldn't make a difference this year. He can't say that, of course. I'll bet Carter will be special. Garrett is going to get us some special players. Jerry will fade into the background.
 
johnny utah;4350829 said:
To be honest, I think we had a good draft last year.

I thought so too... I guess if you look at an accumulation of the last several years, more can be said for the need to draft better. Last year was indeed a step in the right direction. We hit on our top three picks and have a couple of other good possibles as well....

Tyron (HIT)
Bruce (not doubt will be a HIT IMO)
DeMarco (Jackpot)
Arkin (Possible)
Harris (Possible)

You can't ask for much more in a draft.
 
nake;4350839 said:
Scandrick is puzzling but I think Garrett is rebuilding this team and knows what he is doing.

Maybe you are right, but I have absolutely no friggin idea what you are basing this opinion on other than blind hope.

Garrett's first year as HC has to come in at a C- at best, and that is being kind. Why the faith that a very inexperienced coach like him is going to be anything more?
 
johnny utah;4350829 said:
To be honest, I think we had a good draft last year.

We did. The previous one wasn't terrible either. However, prior to those two years, our drafts have pretty much been total busts for some time now. Blowing entire drafts sets any team back and we're the poster organization for that fact.
 
dboy214;4350854 said:
no we didn't.

What on earth were you watching? No.. Wait. Even better. Please school us on your definition of a good draft.
 
Bleu Star;4350843 said:
I thought so too... I guess if you look at an accumulation of the last several years, more can be said for the need to draft better. Last year was indeed a step in the right direction. We hit on our top three picks and have a couple of other good possibles as well....

Tyron (HIT)
Bruce (not doubt will be a HIT IMO)
DeMarco (Jackpot)
Arkin (Possible)
Harris (Possible)

You can't ask for much more in a draft.
yes you can ask for a lot more.

bruce only contributed on special teams and arkin couldn't even get active all season. 5th rounder was cut.

very average draft.
 
Bleu Star;4350843 said:
I thought so too... I guess if you look at an accumulation of the last several years, more can be said for the need to draft better. Last year was indeed a step in the right direction. We hit on our top three picks and have a couple of other good possibles as well....

Tyron (HIT)
Bruce (not doubt will be a HIT IMO)
DeMarco (Jackpot)
Arkin (Possible)
Harris (Possible)

You can't ask for much more in a draft.

If Carter doesn't hit - and really you only have your opinion on this - then this draft is pretty darn average. Hitting on your #1 and getting a RB in the 3rd isn't draft glory. Don't know what you see in Arkin or Harris at all that would make or break a draft in either direction.
 
Bleu Star;4350858 said:
What on earth were you watching? No.. Wait. Even better. Please school us on your definition of a good draft.

these are the definition of good drafts.


2009
BJ Raji starter
Clay Matthews starter
TJ Lang starter
Jarius Wynn starter
Brad Jones second team

2010
Bryan Bulaga starter
Mike Neal second team
Morgan Burnett starter
Andrew Quarless second team
Marshall Newhouse starter
James Starks starter
CJ Wilson second team

2011
Derek Sherrod second team
Randall Cobb starter/special teams ace
Alex Green injured reserve
Davon House third team
DJ Williams third team
DJ Smith second team
Ryan Taylor active roster
 
dboy214;4350862 said:
yes you can ask for a lot more.

bruce only contributed on special teams and arkin couldn't even get active all season. 5th rounder was cut.

very average draft.

:laugh2:

So you're basing this on one year. Have you ever subscribed to the three year rule?
 

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