I've Changed my mind on Cutting T.O.

[Cowboys2008]

What are we exactly contemplating releasing him for? Because ourselves and the media like talking about him so much? Uh, I haven't heard a peep out of him all off-season, let alone anything negative.

He is though a great diversion away from anything else that's really bothering this team. If we can stare and concentrate on him hard enough maybe the rest will just disappear. But, uh, sorry, it doesn't work like that. A player is either a problem or he isn't, and the only way he's been a problem is due to ourselves and the media making him into one- not due to anything he's done or hasn't done though.

Though, maybe TO should get out. Maybe TO should run for his life and never look back. That's the kind of fanbase we're turning into. A fanbase that does nothing but feed media frenzy. It's no wonder why they like us so much. They can literally get us to "jump" on cue.

 

[TheDude]

Myopic sheep that I might be, I don't think all of the fault lies with Owens. Not by any means. I think Owens is a problem and needs to go. I don't think Owens begins to be the only problem.

I do tire of your protestations of wanting to "hear a well thought out reasoning." You want to "hear" nothing. You want to insult those with whom you do not agree. Be honest enough to acknowledge it.

I really would love someone explain to me how Owens is PubEnemy#1 in the locker room when you had people previously in this organization like

• Duane Thomas - read about his disrespecting Landry
• Hollywood Henderson - ditto
• Charles Haley - ("Boys will Be Boys" quotes from teammates)
• Nate Newton - and his penchant for racism according to the book
• M Irvin almost killing McIver
• Deion Sanders - hating Aikman
• etc, etc

All of the above won a SB, some of the felons are lauded as true team players, yet all Owens really said this year is "My skills aren't declining, maybe its that defenses caught up with our game plans." I tend to favor that theory when Ray Lewis and Ed Reed said "its an easy offense, its streetball"

I have previously laid out TOs major weaknesses, not in this thrread but I would be happy to reiterate. However, his mouth really had 0 to do with any losses this year. If so, then you have the most soft, sad , fragile bunch of players ever assembled.

If No one tacled Magahee or McClain because they were harkening back to something TO said at VR right before the snap, than I'll give you TO is a cancer, if not, it is a convenient way for players (and fans and pundits) to deflect blame for in game execution.

I wish everyone would go watch some of the "anatomy of a play" on nfl.com for various weeks in the season (the cincy slant by TO, the Magahee run), etc. reread some of the play by plays, the dumb false starts and penalties by Adams and Witten, the 12 men on the field, etc.

All it would have taken was 1 game, not that the Cowboys would have won the SB, but they weren't that far off. If Owens would have gone down for the year mid season, this team would have been worse than 9-7

 

[TheDude]

What are we exactly contemplating releasing him for? Because ourselves and the media like talking about him so much? Uh, I haven't heard a peep out of him all off-season, let alone anything negative.

He is though a great diversion away from anything else that's really bothering this team. If we can stare and concentrate on him hard enough maybe the rest will just disappear. But, uh, sorry, it doesn't work like that. A player is either a problem or he isn't, and the only way he's been a problem is due to ourselves and the media making him into one- not due to anything he's done or hasn't done though.

Though, maybe TO should get out. Maybe TO should run for his life and never look back. That's the kind of fanbase we're turning into. A fanbase that does nothing but feed media frenzy. It's no wonder why they like us so much. They can literally get us to "jump" on cue.

 

[I LOVE ME SOME ME!]

What are we exactly contemplating releasing him for? Because ourselves and the media like talking about him so much? Uh, I haven't heard a peep out of him all off-season, let alone anything negative.

He is though a great diversion away from anything else that's really bothering this team. If we can stare and concentrate on him hard enough maybe the rest will just disappear. But, uh, sorry, it doesn't work like that. A player is either a problem or he isn't, and the only way he's been a problem is due to ourselves and the media making him into one- not due to anything he's done or hasn't done though.

Though, maybe TO should get out. Maybe TO should run for his life and never look back. That's the kind of fanbase we're turning into. A fanbase that does nothing but feed media frenzy. It's no wonder why they like us so much. They can literally get us to "jump" on cue.

Amen! TO is def not perfect but the passes that people who are way more detrimental to the team than TO are getting is hilarious. While everybody gad their heads down in shame i saw 1 person head held high trying to talk up romo. His name aint Jason Witten either

 

[Doctor32]

Just like they beat him up when he was in Philly (Roy ankle break not counting)?

Your high..

TO was Garcia's go 2.

TO was McFlubb's go 2.

TO is not Romo's go 2.

I'm high... mmmm
Yeah let's keep T.O. here because it's working so wonderfully. The defense here now is a world away from what it was when Owens was in Philly.

You're (not your) consistently wrong. Go find a cliff...

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

I'm high... mmmm
Yeah let's keep T.O. here because it's working so wonderfully. The defense here now is a world away from what it was when Owens was in Philly.

You're (not your) consistently wrong. Go find a cliff...

Thanks for the lesson. Tyring to sneak in my posts at work behind low cube walls doesn't give me time to proof read.

And Newman and Roy were not contributing to covering TO in 05'??

SS is not better off than it was then. One can argue Roy was better then.

You high... and its not on life. Help the gene pool and find that cliff I am looking for.

 

[slick325]

It's easier to blame one guy than to admit the entire organization is taking a nose dive, that's for sure.

Cutting Owens will not be a cure all for this organization or team. If distractions are the concern then look no further than the owner/GM. There will ALWAYS be distractions in Dallas.

It's amazing that 13-3 season seems so long ago now. Owens was such a distraction then too I guess but somehow the team overcame it.

 

[ZeroClub]

Owens isn't the only problem with the Cowboys. There are several others.

Cutting Owens won't solve all of the team's problems, but it will solve some of them.

Do it, Jerry.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

I really would love someone explain to me how Owens is PubEnemy#1 in the locker room when you had people previously in this organization like

• Duane Thomas - read about his disrespecting Landry
• Hollywood Henderson - ditto
• Charles Haley - ("Boys will Be Boys" quotes from teammates)
• Nate Newton - and his penchant for racism according to the book
• M Irvin almost killing McIver
• Deion Sanders - hating Aikman
• etc, etc

All of the above won a SB, some of the felons are lauded as true team players, yet all Owens really said this year is "My skills aren't declining, maybe its that defenses caught up with our game plans." I tend to favor that theory when Ray Lewis and Ed Reed said "its an easy offense, its streetball"

I have previously laid out TOs major weaknesses, not in this thrread but I would be happy to reiterate. However, his mouth really had 0 to do with any losses this year. If so, then you have the most soft, sad , fragile bunch of players ever assembled.

If No one tacled Magahee or McClain because they were harkening back to something TO said at VR right before the snap, than I'll give you TO is a cancer, if not, it is a convenient way for players (and fans and pundits) to deflect blame for in game execution.

I wish everyone would go watch some of the "anatomy of a play" on nfl.com for various weeks in the season (the cincy slant by TO, the Magahee run), etc. reread some of the play by plays, the dumb false starts and penalties by Adams and Witten, the 12 men on the field, etc.

All it would have taken was 1 game, not that the Cowboys would have won the SB, but they weren't that far off. If Owens would have gone down for the year mid season, this team would have been worse than 9-7

I don't need to read about Duane Thomas. I was around. Thomas Henderson, ditto. Haley, Newton, Irvin, Sanders...

Each of those guys created their own sets of problems. Each case is different. In the cases of Thomas and Henderson, their careers were shorter and less productive than they ought to have been. Haley, Newton and Irvin... which one of those guys showed any disregard for Jimmy Johnson or for Aikman or for Norv Turner? Sanders came in on the tail end of a great team's great run.

Owens is a proven team wrecker. As far as I know, he's no law breaker, and he seems to be a decent human being. But he has a way of destroying the team around him. You can argue otherwise until you are blue in the face. It won't change the truth as I see it.

But this one's easy... just disregard my opinion. It's only an opinion.

 

[FLCowboyFan]

I just want it all to stop...............all of the bad press.......players running their yaps during the season ripping on coaches and other players..........snitches, JG leaving, then he's not, Reeves coming, then he's not!

:bang2:

Please Jerry!!!!!!!! Get this team under control, get someone who can coach this team and let them cut ANYONE that they need to so it becomes a TEAM again. This year has become a joke!

 

[TheDude]

I don't need to read about Duane Thomas. I was around. Thomas Henderson, ditto. Haley, Newton, Irvin, Sanders...

Each of those guys created their own sets of problems. Each case is different. In the cases of Thomas and Henderson, their careers were shorter and less productive than they ought to have been. Haley, Newton and Irvin... which one of those guys showed any disregard for Jimmy Johnson or for Aikman or for Norv Turner? Sanders came in on the tail end of a great team's great run.

Owens is a proven team wrecker. As far as I know, he's no law breaker, and he seems to be a decent human being. But he has a way of destroying the team around him. You can argue otherwise until you are blue in the face. It won't change the truth as I see it.

But this one's easy... just disregard my opinion. It's only an opinion.

I see where your opinion comes from, and I really dont condone TO and his running to defend himself to every media outlet.

However, I think it is a convenient stretch to say TO "wrecked" this team. Every loss had a catalyst, and I can't find one that was due to TO. If he was that bad and had everyone brainwashed, they would not have won the 2nd Giants game. If he was the main culprit in the RAMS, AZ, Pitt, Balt loss, I just wish someone would say how, I would like to know.

All I am saying is that take away the 3 Brad Johnson games and his stats were very comarable to last years. Romo was not close to as healthy this year. The team had a myriad of injuries. And I just will never buy that TO's wrecking distractions:

• Made Proctor not get out of stance and got Romo's back killed
• caused the D not to tackle or pick up a fumble
• Throw a pick 6 at Pitt
• Fumble god knows how many times when sacked.
• Let one armed Derrick Mason abuse Henry
• Keep Brad J on the roster
• Not give Felix 1 carry in the first Was game
• etc

If anything TO did made the whole team lose focus and do the above, then he needs to take make informercials because he is better than Tony Robbins.

Since everyone overlooks D Thomas, Henderson, Irvin, Newton, Haley, etc because they won SBs and therefore make the leap that they "must not have been a distraction", it shows that the other 50-52 on this team are not as tough as the 50-52 people on those earlier teams.

That may be the case, but that means there are 50 other problems on this team with their focus, drive and determination and that should still be more troubling that TO.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

I see where your opinion comes from, and I really dont condone TO and his running to defend himself to every media outlet.

However, I think it is a convenient stretch to say TO "wrecked" this team. Every loss had a catalyst, and I can't find one that was due to TO. If he was that bad and had everyone brainwashed, they would not have won the 2nd Giants game. If he was the main culprit in the RAMS, AZ, Pitt, Balt loss, I just wish someone would say how, I would like to know.

All I am saying is that take away the 3 Brad Johnson games and his stats were very comarable to last years. Romo was not close to as healthy this year. The team had a myriad of injuries. And I just will never buy that TO's wrecking distractions:

• Made Proctor not get out of stance and got Romo's back killed
• caused the D not to tackle or pick up a fumble
• Throw a pick 6 at Pitt
• Fumble god knows how many times when sacked.
• Let one armed Derrick Mason abuse Henry
• Keep Brad J on the roster
• Not give Felix 1 carry in the first Was game
• etc

If anything TO did made the whole team lose focus and do the above, then he needs to take make informercials because he is better than Tony Robbins.

Since everyone overlooks D Thomas, Henderson, Irvin, Newton, Haley, etc because they won SBs and therefore make the leap that they "must not have been a distraction", it shows that the other 50-52 on this team are not as tough as the 50-52 people on those earlier teams.

That may be the case, but that means there are 50 other problems on this team with their focus, drive and determination and that should still be more troubling that TO.

The thing is... you could take every ballgame ever played, in any sport, and find specific reasons a particular game was lost. Certainly, Owens' fingerprints aren't everyhere. I understand your point. I simply feel that Owens is, for whatever reason, a guy who causes controversy and who brews unrest. The latter is my main problem with him.

And yes, I do believe a player is capable of creating such an atmosphere -- particularly if he is a high-profile player. I believe Owens is that kind of player.

If Owens is still a member of the Cowboys in 2009, I hope I am proven wrong.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I was full on board with keeping TO. He led the team in TDs and yds and I think he really needed to kept. I don't think he was as big a distraction as was manufactured by some in the media and some of the fans which latched onto the hysteria. I also was against cutting T.O. because we simply don't have anyone as good as him on the team at his position. We would be cutting a great WR because of a bunch of misinformation.

With all that said, after reading the Reeves issue and now some inside confirmation that they are indeed discussing his release, I don't think there is any other alternative. If this happens though, they need to go out and get a TJ Houshmanzada (sp) to draw some coverage from Roy Williams. Otherwise, we are right back in the same boat.

I hate flipping like this but it sounds like so many have bought into the hysteria, that maybe we need to move on.

I just hope he doesn't end up in Washington.

TJ was made because of the double and triple teams that Chad Johnson was getting.....

 

[Bleu Star]

Since it is not done yet I doubt it will happen until June 1. I'm hoping it will happen June 1.
God Please Let It Happen June 1!!! ray:

 

[Bleu Star]

It's easier to blame one guy than to admit the entire organization is taking a nose dive, that's for sure.

Denial

 

[Venger]

It's easier to blame one guy than to admit the entire organization is taking a nose dive, that's for sure.

Word up, home skillet.

[*]Phil

• Jesus

McLOVIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Best game analysis ever.

Venger