Jamie Dukes says Romo is a coach killer

[CaptainAmerica]

He's Favre Lite.

Until Romo decides, in his mind, to grow up and PROTECT the football at all costs he will always leave the fans feeling empty. IF he ever decides to protect the ball and stop making the impulse throws Parcells warned him about, he could be as good as anyone. But that's a HUGE "if" right now.

I still don't understand why he didn't get more criticism for the INT at the end of the Giants game last year. That was an incredibly poor decision with the entire season on the line.

 

[chinch]

That Romo is a coach killer. Now that was the first time I've heard that.
Is he a coach killer?
I still see a kid, that is living out his fantasy, that is how he looks to me everytime I see him. Immature.

He needs to take charge, and step into reality. He is the QB and the leader of this team.

I'm beginning to think Tuna knew just a little more than the rest of us when he started Drew B for the first 5 games of his last season.

Romo isn't a coach killer because he's surrounded by terrible coaches who kill themselves daily. Jason and Wade are sunshine pumping yes men -- the only kind of people Jerruh surrounds himself with. Wade was DOA. Jason proved himself to be incompetent thus far.

The rest of his ex-coaches are doing great in Miami.

The coaches & GM of dallas are killing Romo (like the rest of our team).

 

[Idgit]

He's Favre Lite.

Until Romo decides, in his mind, to grow up and PROTECT the football at all costs he will always leave the fans feeling empty. IF he ever decides to protect the ball and stop making the impulse throws Parcells warned him about, he could be as good as anyone. But that's a HUGE "if" right now.

I still don't understand why he didn't get more criticism for the INT at the end of the Giants game last year. That was an incredibly poor decision with the entire season on the line.

What TD/Int ratio does the guy need to have to make it clear that he's both being aggressive enough and taking enough care of the football?

 

[The Panch]

You guys ever go back to see what you had to say about a player, say, a year ago? Compare it to what you say now, and then next year compare again. It's amazing how much better or worse these guys get from year to year. I used to think players more or less progressed or regressed linearly, but the reality is their ability varies on an order of magnitude that relates generally to overall won/loss record and directly with what happened in last week's game. It's a very complicated mathematical equation, apparently.

Unless, of course, we get hot and win the Superbowl this year. Then we'll all get to enjoy dozens of posts that say stuff like 'my bad' and 'I'm sure glad I was proven wrong!!' You can use the smiley icons to make it clear how much you really mean it. The fan base as a whole will survive the cracks about Cowboy fans being ignorant bandwagoners, so no worries on that front.

By the way, Marion Barber's soft. Who's with me?

Quit being so defensive cause your fanhood wont allow you to be critical. This isnt a one game thing with Romo. This is a series of games over the course of his 3 years as a starter. It's stuff you can give him a pass for the first two years, but the main problem is he's not progressing, he's regressing. And what was excusable immaturity is starting to turn to borderline arrogance

I like Dukes. I didn't see the totality of his comments on this issue, but I would guess that he's talking about his immaturity. Which I didn't think was an issue until this season and the way he's responded to turbulence. I'd rather see some fire and him getting PO'd and getting in guys faces, than blowing it off and laughing and chuckling all the time. It REALLY PISSES OFF COWBOY FANS when they seem to care more than their QB who's making MILLIONS. NOT GOOD.............

This is the part that bothers me. He's failing to grow and gets overly defensive and ignorant when confronted about it and turning into a "you guys" with the media as if this is on some "unnamed sources" crap. This is on some "You're a turnover waiting to happen every time you get anxious and cant give up on a play" crap.


As for the other part. Some guys just arent natural born leaders and when I look at Romo, I dont see a guy who can take charge of a huddle and put egos in check like Aikman, or have that confidence to will his team to win like Staubach. I see a guy who is what he is and we either have to accept that and try work with it the best we can, or try to take him out of his element and take the chance things will backfire badly.

 

[The Panch]

What TD/Int ratio does the guy need to have to make it clear that he's both being aggressive enough and taking enough care of the football?

It has nothing to do with stats. It has to do with looking at the game and seeing a QB who's not under pressure making a horrible throw and coming up with a goofy excuse for it cause he hasnt learned yet that sometimes not losing the game is more important than winning the game.

 

[el_chevo]

That Romo is a coach killer. Now that was the first time I've heard that.
Is he a coach killer?
I still see a kid, that is living out his fantasy, that is how he looks to me everytime I see him. Immature.

He needs to take charge, and step into reality. He is the QB and the leader of this team.

This is complete revenue generating, lack-of-substance, BS! Get a life. This is nothing more than an attempt to make a name among the turds that have already tried to derail the cowboys. Give me a break!

 

[CM Duck]

Until proven otherwise, he is a coach killer.

huh?!

How many coaches has Romo "killed"?

If any QB on the Cowboys roster is a coach killer it's the backup.

If anything is a coach killer it's the coach's own play calling. It's pretty sad when I can sit here watching a game, and I can tell all my buddies what play is coming next(and be correct 80% of the time) on offense. Just imagine how the professionals can see what play is coming next compared to me.

The bottom line is I think Romo is a coach savior. Remember how pitiful the team looked when he went down for 3 games. Sure the guy makes frustrating passes sometimes, but this team would not be where they are without Romo. They'd be a lot worse. Again, this is just my opinion.

And speaking of my opinion, Dukes is a buffet killer....put the fork down and step away from the table Jamie

 

[Idgit]

Quit being so defensive cause your fanhood wont allow you to be critical. This isnt a one game thing with Romo. This is a series of games over the course of his 3 years as a starter. It's stuff you can give him a pass for the first two years, but the main problem is he's not progressing, he's regressing. And what was excusable immaturity is starting to turn to borderline arrogance

You're not paying attention if you think I'm not critical of this team. I just wish many of you could do a better job of keeping the shortcomings in context. The OL not picking up simple stunts is something to be critical of. The OC not adjusting out of max-protect until the end of the 3rd quarter in the Ravens game is something to be critical of. The QB throwing a ball up for grabs on second down is something to be critical of. Missed tackles on consecutive running plays that give up a game are something to be critical of.

These are sensible conclusions. 'Tony Romo is a coach-killer' is not a sensible conclusion. 'Marion Barber isn't tough' and 'Romo needs a pass for his work in Dallas the first two years.' These are stupid conclusions. So stupid that you diminish the fan base by even debating them. You make Dallas Cowboy fans everywhere look stupid. You make this board stupid, and that makes this place less fun.

Now, it's your right to behave this way, just like it's my right to call you on it over and over again. You have the right to act like you're being realistic and sensible, when the reality is that you just don't know what you're talking about, and you're complaining about the wrong set of problems. Or, you can listen to the score or so of really well-informed posters on this board who are capable of explaining to the rest of us what's really going on and progress from there. It's up to you, but I'm telling you, the overreacting-and-acting-a-fool routine gets really, really old.

 

[theebs]

wow.

the venom is at an all time high.

you would think every player on our roster raped and pillaged sections of america.

Winning will really shove it in all these guys faces...

 

[The Panch]

You're not paying attention if you think I'm not critical of this team. I just wish many of you could do a better job of keeping the shortcomings in context. The OL not picking up simple stunts is something to be critical of. The OC not adjusting out of max-protect until the end of the 3rd quarter in the Ravens game is something to be critical of. The QB throwing a ball up for grabs on second down is something to be critical of. Missed tackles on consecutive running plays that give up a game are something to be critical of.

These are sensible conclusions. 'Tony Romo is a coach-killer' is not a sensible conclusion. 'Marion Barber isn't tough' and 'Romo needs a pass for his work in Dallas the first two years.' These are stupid conclusions. So stupid that you diminish the fan base by even debating them. You make Dallas Cowboy fans everywhere look stupid. You make this board stupid, and that makes this place less fun.

Now, it's your right to behave this way, just like it's my right to call you on it over and over again. You have the right to act like you're being realistic and sensible, when the reality is that you just don't know what you're talking about, and you're complaining about the wrong set of problems. Or, you can listen to the score or so of really well-informed posters on this board who are capable of explaining to the rest of us what's really going on and progress from there. It's up to you, but I'm telling you, the overreacting-and-acting-a-fool routine gets really, really old.

Newsflash you lame, Im aware this team has many more problems than Romo's turnovers and I've pointed them out on here before, so ease up with your tourettes responses cause you cant handle a fan forum filled with fans venting when they see problems with a group of underachievers. You dont like it, get off the internet.


And for the record, I've never said Romo was a coach killer, I blame the coaches more than I do him. And I never questioned Barber's toughness and hardly anyone on this board did, so do a better job of picking your battles. If you wanna vent to certain individuals, then vent. But quit you're generalizing and grouping every time you read something you dont like.

 

[Idgit]

It has nothing to do with stats. It has to do with looking at the game and seeing a QB who's not under pressure making a horrible throw and coming up with a goofy excuse for it cause he hasnt learned yet that sometimes not losing the game is more important than winning the game.

If the QB is making 3 scoring decisions for every turnover decision, when the rest of the leage is at 1 to 1, that doesn't tell you anything? Right now, he's at twone. That's pretty dang good. Of his 13 picks he's made several bone-head plays, and he's owned up to all of them in post-game press conferences. If you don't want to accept his explanations, that's up to you.

If you think Romo's picks are the reason we lost the Ravens game, then you really don't have a clue what went on out there on Saturday. The first TO actually helped us. The second hurt, but it wasn't the decider in the game. We very likely would have won that game, and the anti-Romo crew would be patting him on the back for a second straight gutsy performance if our defense had been able to hold for just one more series in the fourth quarter. Literally, two or three more completions to get us into FG range, and he'd be a hero, instead of a goat. None of that would have had any material bearing on his abilities in general, or on whether or not he's really a 'coach-killer'. Yet the opinion of him on this board all week would be completely different--exactly the opposite of what it is now. What does that say to you about the opinion of this board? Anything at all? I'm guessing it doesn't say anything to you.

 

[percyhoward]

In his first 38 starts, Romo has thrown 79 TD's and 45 INT's.

In his first 38 starts, Brett Favre threw 62 TD's and 50 INT's.

If Romo's a coach-killer, how on earth did Holmgren, Reid, Mariucci, and Gruden survive?

 

[The Panch]

If the QB is making 3 scoring decisions for every turnover decision, when the rest of the leage is at 1 to 1, that doesn't tell you anything? Right now, he's at twone. That's pretty dang good. Of his 13 picks he's made several bone-head plays, and he's owned up to all of them in post-game press conferences. If you don't want to accept his explanations, that's up to you.

If you think Romo's picks are the reason we lost the Ravens game, then you really don't have a clue what went on out there on Saturday. The first TO actually helped us. The second hurt, but it wasn't the decider in the game. We very likely would have won that game, and the anti-Romo crew would be patting him on the back for a second straight gutsy performance if our defense had been able to hold for just one more series in the fourth quarter. Literally, two or three more completions to get us into FG range, and he'd be a hero, instead of a goat. None of that would have had any material bearing on his abilities in general, or on whether or not he's really a 'coach-killer'. Yet the opinion of him on this board all week would be completely different--exactly the opposite of what it is now. What does that say to you about the opinion of this board? Anything at all? I'm guessing it doesn't say anything to you.

1. I never said his mistakes lost us the Ravens game, but you really dont have a clue yourself if you dont think it contributed.

2. Dont try to excuse that pick because Romo got lucky that Ware made a play to cover up his screw up. That was good for Ware and fortunate for Romo. That doesnt excuse that pass.

3. How did the second one not decide the game? It gave the Ravens 3 points and we had to cut into a 2 point lead twice and then the defense fell apart.

4. Dont group me with the bandwagon fans who kill him one minute and love him the next. I've had the same critical opinion of him since the Pittsburgh game and havent changed my view nor will I til I see him show the consistency week after week without making bone headed plays which he's yet to do.

 

[Idgit]

Newsflash you lame, Im aware this team has many more problems than Romo's turnovers and I've pointed them out on here before, so ease up with your red rag responses cause you cant handle a fan forum filled with fans venting when they see problems with a group of underachievers. You dont like it, get off the internet.


And for the record, I've never said Romo was a coach killer, I blame the coaches more than I do him. And I never questioned Barber's toughness and hardly anyone on this board did, so do a better job of picking your battles. If you wanna vent to certain individuals, then vent. But quit you're generalizing and grouping every time you read something you dont like.

Panch, I probably should just put you on ignore again and be done with it, but sometimes you do accidentally squeeze out something worthwhile.

But I'll vent at whomever I chose to vent at, for whatever collective stupidity I find annoying, ok? If you put yourself in that group because you overreact on one or many accounts, so be it. I'm not particularly interested in sorting the juvenile posters into degrees based off of how sophomoric they really are because it really doesn't matter very much. Either the posters here generally care to be accurate or informed, or they don't. As a result, either their opinions matter, or they are part of the background noise. As long as the background noise stays mostly in the background, I'm happy. When it becomes foreground noise, I feel compelled to say something about it.

Wins naturally keep the background noise in the background, but this is a big week, and I'd rather come to this board for a good time and not have to slog through nonsense to find the interesting posts.

 

[Asklesko]

That is a wery good description of Romo.

 

[The Panch]

Panch, I probably should just put you on ignore again and be done with it, but sometimes you do accidentally squeeze out something worthwhile.

But I'll vent at whomever I chose to vent at, for whatever collective stupidity I find annoying, ok? If you put yourself in that group because you overreact on one or many accounts, so be it. I'm not particularly interested in sorting the juvenile posters into degrees based off of how sophomoric they really are because it really doesn't matter very much. Either the posters here generally care to be accurate or informed, or they don't. As a result, either their opinions matter, or they are part of the background noise. As long as the background noise stays mostly in the background, I'm happy. When it becomes foreground noise, I feel compelled to say something about it.

Wins naturally keep the background noise in the background, but this is a big week, and I'd rather come to this board for a good time and not have to slog through nonsense to find the interesting posts.

Once again, it's not my job to help you differ between fans critiquing a player's shortcomings and bandwagon jumpers trying to throw him under the bus every time he throws a pick whether it's on him, the protection, the receiver, or the coaching. If you choose not to have the patience to seperate the groups, that's on you.

 

[theogt]

Yeah, a lot of coaches would kill to have him as their QB.

As for Dukes, when things are going well he heap praise on the O-line, but when things are down he blames the QB. Not surprising, even though the O-line is more to blame for the Ravens loss than Romo.

 

[Deep_South]

The idea that Romo was the cause of Parcells retiring is just silly. (If Romo is a coach killer, Parcells would have to be his first victim.) Parcells could have had any number of coaching jobs and chose to go to a front office job that he most likely had planned for well ahead of when he actually took it.

Wade is still with us, so this comment by Dukes is based on nothing.

 

[masomenos]

In his first 38 starts, Romo has thrown 79 TD's and 45 INT's.

In his first 38 starts, Brett Favre threw 62 TD's and 50 INT's.

If Romo's a coach-killer, how on earth did Holmgren, Reid, Mariucci, and Gruden survive?

To add to that...

Elway, in his first 40 starts threw 47 TDs and 52 INTs. That's 32 fewer TDs and 7 more INTs.

Manning, in his first 38 starts threw 64 TDs and 50 INTs. That's 15 fewer TDs and 5 more INTs.

Brady, in his first 38 starts threw 48 TDs and 33 INTs. That's 31 fewer TDs and 12 fewer INTs.

Bums, all of 'em!

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

So now we are listening to what this guy has to say about our QB?? Stretching a little aren't we?






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