Jason Campbell = Quincy Carter

[BrAinPaiNt]

I saw the title of this thread and thought he got kicked off the team for drugs.

 

[dcboy]

He was disproving you, not us you dingbat[/quote

No, I was disproving you, not the dingbat. just kidding. What I meant was that it does not seem reasonable for Carter to go to rehab for weed right before the start of the playoffs on his own when he had the realistic chance to play. I will go even further to say that I find it hard to believe that he would go to rehab for marijuana on his own at all. It may not be easy to quit, but there is no physical dependence on bud. There is physical dependence on cocaine and heroin which makes it extremely hard to quit.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

He was disproving you, not us you dingbat[/quote

No, I was disproving you, not the dingbat. just kidding. What I meant was that it does not seem reasonable for Carter to go to rehab for weed right before the start of the playoffs on his own when he had the realistic chance to play. I will go even further to say that I find it hard to believe that he would go to rehab for marijuana on his own at all. It may not be easy to quit, but there is no physical dependence on bud. There is physical dependence on cocaine and heroin which makes it extremely hard to quit.

If i am not mistaken, Quincy came into the NFL under the Substance Abuse Policy and I beleive Rehab is part of the program, especially if you have a relapse.

Quincy never denied he was wrong and caught redhanded for drugs, but he did tell Jean Jaque Taylor, who interviewed him a day after he was released that it was not Cocaine.

- Mike G.

 

[neosapien23]

He just doesnt get it

Look man we're not going to convince one another with that I respect your opinion. When I thanked that guy it was for his opinion that Pot Heads don't give up their jobs in the playoffs for being high. Yes Carter was kicked out of the Cowboys for Marijuana, but he had a Coccaine relapse in New York. Do you think Randy Moss or Ricky Williams would check in to a clinic for Marijuana. I didn't want to go into detail about drug use because this is a family site. To put it lightly cocaine addicts are extremely unstable and often have unstable mental behaviors such as crying spills. A pot head is just a pot head. They would not check into a clinic during the playoffs. I bet Randy Moss and Ricky Williams play high all the time. Stepnoski our center used Marijuana to help ease his naggin injuries so he could play. He got high right before gametime. None of those guys checked into clinics during the playoffs.

 

[KINGBRICE_28]

the guy took like 6 snaps in preseason and he's quincy...geeez.....

I hope this prediction is as inaccurate as your annual "Commanders are in cap **** " thread......

And for the record I can name several QB's that were not NFL calibur when they were drafted and they are wearing rings today......

 

[Rush 2112]

Questions:

1) Why would anyone believe someone with his track record?

2) Would he or most people admit it in his exact situation?

Just food for thought.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Questions:

1) Why would anyone believe someone with his track record?

2) Would he or most people admit it in his exact situation?

Just food for thought.

Until more information surfaces from persons name Quincy Carter, Bill Parcells or Jerry Jones, noone will completely know.

But thanks for the food for thought.....

- Mike G.

 

[joseephuss]

Look man we're not going to convince one another with that I respect your opinion. When I thanked that guy it was for his opinion that Pot Heads don't give up their jobs in the playoffs for being high. Yes Carter was kicked out of the Cowboys for Marijuana, but he had a Coccaine relapse in New York. Do you think Randy Moss or Ricky Williams would check in to a clinic for Marijuana. I didn't want to go into detail about drug use because this is a family site. To put it lightly cocaine addicts are extremely unstable and often have unstable mental behaviors such as crying spills. A pot head is just a pot head. They would not check into a clinic during the playoffs. I bet Randy Moss and Ricky Williams play high all the time. Stepnoski our center used Marijuana to help ease his naggin injuries so he could play. He got high right before gametime. None of those guys checked into clinics during the playoffs.

No one knows what kind of rehab center that Quincy checked into. Was it a 1 week clinic, a 1 month, 1 day, 1 hour? We hear the term rehab and maybe our perception is he was there for weeks. We just don't know. There are all kinds of programs that are dependent on the addicition and at what stage of the addiction. A person may go in for a day if they are feeling weak, but have not used their drug of choice in years. Perhaps they just need some help to get over a hump or something. Maybe Quincy was just a weird, moody guy who never used any type of drug. Those kinds of people exist.

 

[Fan21]

Gibbs went well out of the way to draft Campbell, and I think that he knows QB's. 3 SB with 3 different QB's. No coach, in fact no team, has ever done that other than Gibbs with the Skins.

Trust that Gibbs made the correct choice with Jason. He will be a good one!

Comparing any decent human being with Quincy is a joke; he was a crackhead loser at UGA and was even worse in Dallas!

 

[KINGBRICE_28]

did everyone miss my post.......

I guess that's ok......I'm just used to 500 quotes bashing me by now...lol.....

 

[The30YardSlant]

did everyone miss my post.......

I guess that's ok......I'm just used to 500 quotes bashing me by now...lol.....

Nah, we've just learned to tune you out

 

[Rush 2112]

Until more information surfaces from persons name Quincy Carter, Bill Parcells or Jerry Jones, noone will completely know.

But thanks for the food for thought.....

- Mike G.

We ain't gettin no more information from them.

Comes down to ability to read people.

Average to great QB's down get shut out from the NFL for addiction issues (Favre/Collins).

Doesn't look to be the coke type, but that picture of him leaving VR on D Day sure looked like a crack head.

Someone as delusional as QC was sure could try to rationalize crack and coke being completely different.

"This team knows who it's leader is.".....etc, etc, etc.

Duhlusional.

 

[joseephuss]

We ain't gettin no more information from them.

Comes down to ability to read people.

Average to great QB's down get shut out from the NFL for addiction issues (Favre/Collins).

Doesn't look to be the coke type, but that picture of him leaving VR on D Day sure looked like a crack head.

Someone as delusional as QC was sure could try to rationalize crack and coke being completely different.

"This team knows who it's leader is.".....etc, etc, etc.

Duhlusional.

You don't have to be on drugs to be delusional. Look at the Hambrick brothers. Both thought way too much of themselves and I don't think they have been linked to any drug activity.

It doesn't matter now becaus QC is gone and won't be back in the NFL much less with Dallas. I was dissappointed because I hoped Dallas might get lucky and find a good young QB. They did not. The Commanders are now trying their luck. They are off to a less than stellar start considering how much they traded just to get in position to get someone not that highly regarded. Still, it will take Campbell playing a few season to even get a hint if the Commanders have as much misfortune as Dallas in finding the next great young QB for their respective franchises.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Comes down to ability to read people.

That and making assumptions...but Juke has already told us in this thread about what happens when you make assumptions.

Average to great QB's down get shut out from the NFL for addiction issues (Favre/Collins).

Quincy Carter was not even close to being on a level as those two guys. And yes, if he did have Brett Favre talent, he would not have gotten "shut out".

Doesn't look to be the coke type, but that picture of him leaving VR on D Day sure looked like a crack head.

And what picture would that be?

Someone as delusional as QC was sure could try to rationalize crack and coke being completely different.

"This team knows who it's leader is.".....etc, etc, etc.

Duhlusional.

Wow....that comment by Quincy Carter is just horrible. Pales in comparison to players calling their coaches liars like Ty Law did, a player possibly taking a swing at his coach like it has been reported in Cincinatti, or a player saying his former Quarterback was gay, like Terrell Owens did. What was Quincy thinking? Heck, maybe those guys are on Crack or Cocaine too.

You know some guys are just naturally paranoid and insecure by their own personal nature...you know that right or were you just going off instincts and gut feelings again?

I got a guy up here at my job like that...I might ask him if he is on Crack or Cocaine before I exit the building today.

Food for thought....

- Mike G.

 

[neosapien23]

We ain't gettin no more information from them.

Comes down to ability to read people.

Average to great QB's down get shut out from the NFL for addiction issues (Favre/Collins).

Doesn't look to be the coke type, but that picture of him leaving VR on D Day sure looked like a crack head.

Someone as delusional as QC was sure could try to rationalize crack and coke being completely different.

"This team knows who it's leader is.".....etc, etc, etc.

Duhlusional.

What addiction did Favre have? I know Collins was an alcoholic.

 

[Rush 2112]

You don't have to be on drugs to be delusional. Look at the Hambrick brothers. Both thought way too much of themselves and I don't think they have been linked to any drug activity.

It doesn't matter now becaus QC is gone and won't be back in the NFL much less with Dallas. I was dissappointed because I hoped Dallas might get lucky and find a good young QB. They did not. The Commanders are now trying their luck. They are off to a less than stellar start considering how much they traded just to get in position to get someone not that highly regarded. Still, it will take Campbell playing a few season to even get a hint if the Commanders have as much misfortune as Dallas in finding the next great young QB for their respective franchises.

I'm not saying he was delusional because he was on drugs.

QC was delusional because he had....always had a way over inflated opinion of himself and his talents. Talents bestowed to him by God for our viewing pleasure if you listen to the man.

I'm saying he was delusional, and on drugs, not because of.

 

[Rush 2112]

What addiction did Favre have? I know Collins was an alcoholic.

Vicadin and he was a very heavy drinker in ATL his rookie year.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Didnt Farve slap his wife around once when he was in Atlanta?

 

[joseephuss]

I'm not saying he was delusional because he was on drugs.

QC was delusional because he had....always had a way over inflated opinion of himself and his talents. Talents bestowed to him by God for our viewing pleasure if you listen to the man.

I'm saying he was delusional, and on drugs, not because of.

Yep, I agree.

 

[neosapien23]

1st source:

Jets' Report: Carter checks into rehab
Monday, February 07, 2005
BY DAVE HUTCHINSON
Star-Ledger Staff
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Quincy Carter, the Jets' backup quarterback this season, might not have been at his mother's bedside last month -- as the team said -- when the Jets lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers in an AFC divisional playoff game.

A report by ESPN yesterday said Carter suffered a drug relapse and has checked himself into a rehabilitation center.


Carter was rumored to have tested positive for cocaine before his release by the Dallas Cowboys last summer. Three weeks later, on Aug. 24, he signed a one-year contract with the Jets to be Chad Pennington's backup.

Through a team spokesman, Jets general manager Terry Bradway yesterday "respectfully declined comment on the speculation."

When Carter left the club last month, the Jets said he was tending to his mother, who was supposed to be seriously ill in Decatur, Ga. The revelation that the Jets might not have been truthful comes after team doctors admitted they hedged on the seriousness of Pennington's shoulder injury during the season.

At the time of Carter's departure from the team, his agent, Eugene Parker, said it was "a private and confidential matter."

Carter was 2-1 in three starts when Pennington was hurt. Carter becomes an unrestricted free agent on March 2. The Jets, who have promoted Brooks Bollinger to No. 2 quarterback, had no intention of re-signing Carter.

ESPN also reported Carter, a four-year veteran, might be fighting a bipolar disorder -- the same mental condition that eventually ended the career of Raiders Pro Bowl center Barret Robbins.

In Dallas, Carter had one strike against him in the league's substance abuse program. Players' drug histories are protected under the league's confidentiality policy, but it was widely speculated Carter was docked four game checks for a second violation, which led to his release by the Cowboys.

Carter previously entered treatment programs in January 2003 in the Boston area and in the summer of 2004 at the John Lucas Treatment Center in Houston, ESPN reported.

Carter was a former starter with the Cowboys in 2003, when they won 10 games and reached the playoffs. He completed 35 of 58 passes for 498 yards, three touchdowns and one interception for the Jets. He had a 98.2 passer rating.

2nd Source:

Fox Sports - Cowboys cut Carter after positive cocaine test

Quarterback Quincy Carter is expected to be released by the Dallas Cowboys Wednesday after testing positive for cocaine, league sources told FOX NFL Sunday insider John Czarnecki. Club owner Jerry Jones confirmed that Carter has been released. "It was not a difficult decision for me," he said, declining to elaborate.
Cowboys coach Bill Parcells, asked about Carter's release at a regularly scheduled news conference Wednesday at the team's training camp headquarters in Oxnard, Ca., said: "I'm saddened by this. I've got 18 months invested in this process, too. But we're going on."

Carter entered the league in the NFL substance abuse program and this is his second positive test, which by NFL rules would warrant a four-game fine — not a suspension. Parcells said offseason acquisition Vinny Testaverde, 40, will replace Carter as the Cowboys' starting quarterback. "Right now, that's the most experienced player that we have, and I'm confident in that player," he said.