News: Jason Garrett - Dak has to improve in every facet

[HungryLion]

"Getting chubbies" seems like your favorite catch all phrase when you don't know what to say. You sound like one of those excessively entitled fans throwing a tantrum because you don't have water cooler bragging rights. How long have you been a Cowboy fan?

Go back to the Browns' board?!? I've been a Cowboys fan since before Roger.

Out of curiosity what do you mean when you say “excessively entitled”

I mean honestly. Garrett has won, one playoff game in 8 years.

Is asking for more than 1 playoff win in 8 season, excessive entitlement? I mean how low are the standards set, that asking for more than one playoff win in 8 years is considered excessive entitlement.

The Goal in the NFL is to win a championship after all. Garrett hasn’t even sniffed one yet.

If he had just gotten us to the super bowl a couple years ago, you would have a point. But come on.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Dont like the message, so attack the messenger



CZ Tradition

 

[ESisback]

Out of curiosity what do you mean when you say “excessively entitled”

I mean honestly. Garrett has won, one playoff game in 8 years.

Is asking for more than 1 playoff win in 8 season, excessive entitlement? I mean how low are the standards set, that asking for more than one playoff win in 8 years is considered excessive entitlement.

The Goal in the NFL is to win a championship after all. Garrett hasn’t even sniffed one yet.

If he had just gotten us to the super bowl a couple years ago, you would have a point. But come on.

I'm not happy with my team's playoff record either, but I'm not emphatically sure that it's one person's fault. I've already fumed about past losses and moved on (because it's a game, not life and death), and I prefer to look ahead with hope.

 

[aikemirv]

Uh, yeah!

It's ridiculous to read criticisms of Prescott from someone who sucks at his own job and shouldn't and wouldn't have that job anywhere else.

That's up to Jerry to determine. His job is still to coach!

 

[dfense]

Don't be mad Skip, it's Friday...let it go

If Skip hates it, it must be right on.

 

[Stash]

That's up to Jerry to determine. His job is still to coach!

Which he's obviously not good at.

The dynamic you're referencing is this organization's biggest problem by far. A "GM" and "head coach" in name only, neither of whom is actually qualified for the title they have

 

[iceberg]

Well yeah, he's going to be a 3rd year player - he should still be improving in every aspect. Especially after the slump in the second half of last season.

my biggest concern is overall accuracy. he tend to overthrow quite a bit and in year 1 we just got lucky no one was there. that didn't happen in year 2. the only thing that *did* happen was he kept doing it.

 

[HungryLion]

I'm not happy with my team's playoff record either, but I'm not emphatically sure that it's one person's fault. I've already fumed about past losses and moved on (because it's a game, not life and death), and I prefer to look ahead with hope.

That’s great for you. It still doesn’t make other people excessively entitled to want some playoff success.

And at the end of the day, “one persons fault” or not. Garrett hasn’t gotten it done. No more excuses. It’s win or go home for him. IMO.

 

[ESisback]

That’s great for you. It still doesn’t make other people excessively entitled to want some playoff success.

And at the end of the day, “one persons fault” or not. Garrett hasn’t gotten it done. No more excuses. It’s win or go home for him. IMO.

If they draft well, stay relatively healthy, there's no big games taken away on controversial calls, and they STILL don't win at least one playoff game, then I'll join the "New Coach Now Club".

67-53 with Jerry as the GM? That's a few notches above Cleveland.

 

[HungryLion]

If they draft well, stay relatively healthy, there's no big games taken away on controversial calls, and they STILL don't win at least one playoff game, then I'll join the "New Coach Now Club".

67-53 with Jerry as the GM? That's a few notches above Cleveland.

Again, you just listed off a slew of excuses to enable garretts mediocrity again.

 

[ESisback]

That’s great for you. It still doesn’t make other people excessively entitled to want some playoff success.

And at the end of the day, “one persons fault” or not. Garrett hasn’t gotten it done. No more excuses. It’s win or go home for him. IMO.

If other people rant and rave nonstop, make emotional (and often erroneous) assumptions because their team hasn't dominated enough to ensure water cooler bragging rights, and basically act like spoiled children, then yes, that's excessively entitled. IMO.

 

[ESisback]

Again, you just listed off a slew of excuses to enable garretts mediocrity again.

#1)They're NOT excuses. They're reasons.
#2)My opinion doesn't "enable" anyone, ESPECIALLY Garrett.

Would Bellichick have as many wins with Jerry as GM? And before you FREAK OUT, I'm not trying to liken Garrett to Bellichick, just make a point.

 

[Aviano90]

If they draft well, stay relatively healthy, there's no big games taken away on controversial calls, and they STILL don't win at least one playoff game, then I'll join the "New Coach Now Club".

67-53 with Jerry as the GM? That's a few notches above Cleveland.

That's reasonable.

Something to ponder...if those things happen and you convert over to believing it is time for a new coach, will you be considered excessively entitled by others who might still believe Garrett is the right person for the job?

 

[HungryLion]

#1)They're NOT excuses. They're reasons.
#2)My opinion doesn't "enable" anyone, ESPECIALLY Garrett.

Would Bellichick have as many wins with Jerry as GM? And before you FREAK OUT, I'm not trying to liken Garrett to Bellichick, just make a point.

1. I’m not freaking out. Make false claims about my or anybody else’s behavior doesn’t do anything to strengthen your argument.

2. They are excuses. 8 years. He has had 8 years and he has had plenty of opportunities to get it done. And he hasn’t.

Last, we are on a message board dude. People are on here for the sake of discussing the dallas cowboys. So people discussing the many reasons they have for wanting Garrett gone doesn’t make it excessive entitlement.

I’m glad you’re satisfied with a mediocre head coach and a mediocre team with mediocre results. Some of us just want some actual playoff success for once in the past 20+ years. 8 of which have been under Garrett and his clapping.

 

[cern]

garrett has to improve in every facet.

 

[ESisback]

That's reasonable.

Something to ponder...if those things happen and you convert over to believing it is time for a new coach, will you be considered excessively entitled by others who might still believe Garrett is the right person for the job?

Doesn't really matter to me--I know the truth!
Besides, people will disagree/be offended no matter what.

 

[ESisback]

1. I’m not freaking out. Make false claims about my or anybody else’s behavior doesn’t do anything to strengthen your argument.

2. They are excuses. 8 years. He has had 8 years and he has had plenty of opportunities to get it done. And he hasn’t.

Last, we are on a message board dude. People are on here for the sake of discussing the dallas cowboys. So people discussing the many reasons they have for wanting Garrett gone doesn’t make it excessive entitlement.

I’m glad you’re satisfied with a mediocre head coach and a mediocre team with mediocre results. Some of us just want some actual playoff success for once in the past 20+ years. 8 of which have been under Garrett and his clapping.

1)"Freaking out" is just a jokey expression, not making "false claims" about you or anyone else. Relax.

2)You call them excuses. I call them legitimate reasons, because we live in a grey world. Everything is tenuous and changeable. NOTHING is certain except death and taxes. Also, I don't blame anything on a single person or event. It's always a collection of factors, some of which are out of our hands.

3)I'm not satisfied with a mediocre anything. I just don't like to get too high of too low.

 

[Cmac]

.....and so does JG, but he's been giving pass after pass after pass. C'mon Man!!!!.....totally unnecessary in the media. JG threw Dak under the bus.

 

[khiladi]

I still wonder if JJ really let JG make the decision to not give Romo his job back or let him compete. This is a decision of power I just don’t see JJ giving up. I think JJ knew that was the last straw for Romo. He loves Romo and I believe they had a deal between them that one more serious back injury and it’s a wrap.

I doubt it, because there was supposedly a 'rift' between Garrett and Romo. Garrett use to follow him around ever off-season, until this one, while Jerry and Romo continued to have a good relationship. Ultimately, Romo probably forced JJ to take play-calling away from Garrett when the new contract came around and Romo started getting more control.

 

[khiladi]

Oh Idgit, you have given this same speech a thousand times..................don't you have anything new to defend Clappy with?

I wonder why 5 or 6 head coaches every year get fired in the NFL, they don't get to use the "not enough talent" excuse. That seems to be specific to Garrett.

Garrett said Rob Ryan was fired because of lack of TOs that could have given his offense more opportunities to score.

When Wade was fired, Garrett's offense produced 19 TOs in 8 games. So if Garrett can blame the defense for his failures, enough to fire Ryan, why can't Wade blame Garrett and fire him for his 19 TOs when he went 1-7. Wade didn't lose that Commanders game.

Garrett-homers are just blind and they make this baseless claim that criticism of him is unjustified. Jerry himself said they didn't want Jason touching the offense and he would have an ambiguous role, but they act like that never happened. They have been operating under delusion for years. Garrett input into talent was when he was in control of the offense, but started diminishing when he was effectively banished from Offensive play-calling duties. The guy in actuality has no clue about talent and his 'insight' happens after that player ends up starting because a favorite is injured and that guy performs.

Hell, they decision to draft Frederick was a large part, Romo per Jerry himself. And these homers even try and argue it was Jason who wanted to build an OL all along and Jerry wasn't listening.

https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/Bolt/Jones-Romo-Asked-For-Help-Along-O-line-32246194

"The idea was Tony always told me, he said 'Now Jerry, I can see the right tackle and I can make that guy miss me if the right tackle doesn’t get his block. But he said I got to have protection on my blindside … I need to feel like we’re not getting pushed around, we’re soft in the middle. That really does influence me in terms of how much I can stand in there, how quickly I can spin and turn out, so to speak,'" Jones said Tuesday. "So there’s no question we’ve been wanting to get Tony confident in what his offensive line is about.

There is a reason it took one year for Callahan to be a threat to Garrett and changing the offense. He implemented a totally new run-blocking scheme and started picking quality players like Leary.