Jason LaCanfora: Dolphins shopping WR Ted Ginn

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JBell523;3347163 said:
You're a joke.

BRB blaming all of Ginn's drops on his quarterbacks.

Have you ever seen a Dolphins game?

Romo's completion percentage would dip below 60 if we had Ginn aka Quincy Morgan jr. on this team.


and you're an huge noob. You think his qb doesn't affect his receptions/drops? I guarantee if he came here that drop % would drop jurastically. I'm not blaming ALL of his drops on the qb's, learn to read. But those qb's I mentioned are on a completely different level then Romo, incase you didn't realize that before. So you honestly think having the Miami's qbs of years past has no bearing on his stats? Compared to him having a Romo? hahah.
 

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CanuckCowboysFan;3347234 said:
and you're an huge noob. You think his qb doesn't affect his receptions/drops? I guarantee if he came here that drop % would drop jurastically. I'm not blaming ALL of his drops on the qb's, learn to read. But those qb's I mentioned are on a completely different level then Romo, incase you didn't realize that before. So you honestly think having the Miami's qbs of years past has no bearing on his stats? Compared to him having a Romo? hahah.

Ted Ginn has played in 48 games in his career (starting 35), in those 48 games his QB during 19 of them (whom you conviently ignored) was Chad Pennington. Chad happens to have the highest completion percentage in the history of the NFL (Tony Romo is 8th by the way).

Feel free to check it...
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_cmp_perc_career.htm

Ginn's best year (2008), which you atttribute to the quarterbacking of Lemons, Chad was actually his quarterback. Chad led the league in completion percentage that year at 67.4%. He completed at least 30 passes to 6 different receivers (and 50+ to 3). The only Dolphin that year in the league leaders in drops is, you guessed it... Ted Ginn. He was tied for 19th in the league with 6 drops. No other Dolphin is in the top 50.

http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/passesdropped.html

While I am not stating that Pennington and Romo are the on the same level. To state that Miami hasnt had any good QB's during Ginn's time there is stupid (Chad has a career .538 winnning percentage, a 2-4 postseason record (Romo 1-3), thrown for 18,000 yards, and "technically" is the most accurate passer in NFL history (at least has the highest completion percentage on his 2,500 career passing attempts). Last year Pennington and Henne had 28 dropped balls on 525 attempts combined. Ginn dropped 1/3 of that total (9) on only 78 attempts. So I'm thinking Ginn clearly had a bearing on the stats for QB's those years for Miami, not the other way around.

By the way good job of mentioning Pat White and his whole 5 career attempts in your list of QB's Ginn had throwing the ball at him (post 115). Why not throw in Ronnie Brown he had 6 attempts?
 

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Better send the Juice with him........

Ginn & Juice...........
 

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Now that he is expendable in Miami.

I'll take him for a 5th or later rounder pick! He can return kicks right away and stretch the field.
 

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btcutter;3347480 said:
Now that he is expendable in Miami.

I'll take him for a 5th or later rounder pick! He can return kicks right away and stretch the field.
I wouldn't mind paying an 8th round pick if you catch my drift. Miami is trying to get something for him. you know they will cut him soon and you can have him for free.
 

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btcutter;3347480 said:
Now that he is expendable in Miami.

I'll take him for a 5th or later rounder pick! He can return kicks right away and stretch the field.

In before the merge...
 
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irishline;3347399 said:
Ted Ginn has played in 48 games in his career (starting 35), in those 48 games his QB during 19 of them (whom you conviently ignored) was Chad Pennington. Chad happens to have the highest completion percentage in the history of the NFL (Tony Romo is 8th by the way).

Feel free to check it...
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_cmp_perc_career.htm

Ginn's best year (2008), which you atttribute to the quarterbacking of Lemons, Chad was actually his quarterback. Chad led the league in completion percentage that year at 67.4%. He completed at least 30 passes to 6 different receivers (and 50+ to 3). The only Dolphin that year in the league leaders in drops is, you guessed it... Ted Ginn. He was tied for 19th in the league with 6 drops. No other Dolphin is in the top 50.

http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/passesdropped.html

While I am not stating that Pennington and Romo are the on the same level. To state that Miami hasnt had any good QB's during Ginn's time there is stupid (Chad has a career .538 winnning percentage, a 2-4 postseason record (Romo 1-3), thrown for 18,000 yards, and "technically" is the most accurate passer in NFL history (at least has the highest completion percentage on his 2,500 career passing attempts). Last year Pennington and Henne had 28 dropped balls on 525 attempts combined. Ginn dropped 1/3 of that total (9) on only 78 attempts. So I'm thinking Ginn clearly had a bearing on the stats for QB's those years for Miami, not the other way around.

By the way good job of mentioning Pat White and his whole 5 career attempts in your list of QB's Ginn had throwing the ball at him (post 115). Why not throw in Ronnie Brown he had 6 attempts?



THANK YOU!! You just made my point. Give him a decent qb and he'll put up good numbers!! I said it in 2 sentences and it took you 3 hours. Thanks again. You think its a coincidence that in 07 when he had Cleo Lemmons throwing to him he had 420 yards, then again in 09 when he had Chad Henne throwing to him he put up another 400 yards? Both of them are in the bottom 10 in completion %, and Pennington wasn't. So, give him a decent qb, AND HE PRODUCES!!!! Thanks for the help. N00000000000b.
 

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CanuckCowboysFan;3347607 said:
THANK YOU!! You just made my point. Give him a decent qb and he'll put up good numbers!! I said it in 2 sentences and it took you 3 hours. Thanks again. You think its a coincidence that in 07 when he had Cleo Lemmons throwing to him he had 420 yards, then again in 09 when he had Chad Henne throwing to him he put up another 400 yards? Both of them are in the bottom 10 in completion %, and Pennington wasn't. So, give him a decent qb, AND HE PRODUCES!!!! Thanks for the help. N00000000000b.

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CanuckCowboysFan;3347607 said:
THANK YOU!! You just made my point. Give him a decent qb and he'll put up good numbers!! I said it in 2 sentences and it took you 3 hours. Thanks again. You think its a coincidence that in 07 when he had Cleo Lemmons throwing to him he had 420 yards, then again in 09 when he had Chad Henne throwing to him he put up another 400 yards? Both of them are in the bottom 10 in completion %, and Pennington wasn't. So, give him a decent qb, AND HE PRODUCES!!!! Thanks for the help. N00000000000b.

If by proving a point you meant that you had absolutely no idea who the quarterbacks for the Dolphins were over the past few years while you spent post after post shouting that he had no quarterback... you're right.

If by proving a point you mean that despite having the most accurate quarterback two years ago (that you repeatedly skipped talking about because it would disprove your point) throwing the ball to him and still Ginn was in the top 20 in dropped passes cause he can't catch... you're right.

Now another point... last year Henne's completion percentage was 61% and in the top 1/2 of the league (unlike the bottom 10 you claimed). AND STILL GINN WAS IN THE TOP 10 IN DROPPED PASSES. He was 16th in the league... romo was 12th at 63%... so nice try.... Henne completed 61% of his passes.... Ginn's completion % last year was 47%. You take Ginn's horrible numbers out (38 catches on 78 targets) and guess where Henne's completion percentage is? 63.2% or higher than Romo's.

Seriously, I thought providing you links to this information would be enough for you to look it up. I guess now I know I have to walk you through it too. Next time you feel like spewing numbers (like Henne being in the bottom 10 in compeltion percentage to show how he sucks) at least take a minute to look it up. All your doing is proving to everyone that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

And seriously how can you anyone call someone else a nooob when they cite Pat White and his 5 career pass attempts (none of which were targeting Ginn btw) as a reason why Ginn's stats were effected by his quarterbacks? I mean come on, really????? :laugh2:
 
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