Jaylon Smith and Sean Spence/Robert Edwards

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Sean Spence had a similar injury to Jaylon Smith during his rookie training camp, except worse as his knee cap was dislocated (nerve was stretched - so probably more damage). He recovered in 14 months, but missed his 2nd camp because of a hand injury.
Edwards tore his ACL, MCL and PCL, and partially tore his LCL. If that wasn\’t bad enough, he also stretched his peroneal nerve and severed an artery that supplies blood to the lower leg. He almost lost the leg as a result of his injuries. At that time there were quite a few people, including his own doctors, that thought his football career was over. Edwards' injury is also worse than Jaylon's.

Here is some information regarding Spence's recovery and Edward's recovery:

9 months after injury - sound kind of similar to Jaylon now:
“Sean is progressing," said Colbert. "When you have as serious a knee injury as he unfortunately had, it sometimes is a very long process. Sometimes it takes over a year to fully rehabilitate. But the good thing is we are seeing signs of progress, albeit small steps. But it is progress. Sean’s attitude is off the charts. He wants to rehab. He wants to be a great player. He is working hard to get there. He is making small progress, and as long as he is making progress, we will be patient with him and hopefully get him back at full speed at some point." "It's healing," Spence said of the nerve damage. "It's healing slow, but I'm making progress each and every week."

After Sean Spence recovery of feeling (not foot drop):
Spence cried. Many times, in the six months that it took before there was any sign that specialist was wrong. It started with him being able to wiggle a toe. Then the next day he could wiggle another. Within a week the whole foot had sensation in it.

Edwards after recovery:
Edwards started his rehabilitation after his second surgery, but he couldn\’t pick up his foot or turn his ankle for several weeks because of the nerve damage that he had suffered. He stated in an interview that it was eight months before feeling returned in his foot.
I got my speed back down to a 4.4 (in the 40-yard dash),” Edwards said. “I was jumping 38 (inches) in the vertical. Everything felt normal. I felt exactly the way I felt my rookie year in the league. I mean running, cutting, everything.”
 

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I had frostbite in my toe once as a teenager. Took over a year for feeling to return. Nerves are slow, but they often heal, especially when you're young.
 

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As far as time table, where is Jaylon Smith in this.

I understand that is an unknown as far as complete recovery, but what i am asking is from diagnosis to today, how much time has passed? Just to get an idea of best case scenario played out like these two examples, perhaps it might give a yardstick of when he "might" starts feeling sensation.
 
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Sean Spence had a similar injury to Jaylon Smith during his rookie training camp, except worse as his knee cap was dislocated (nerve was stretched - so probably more damage). He recovered in 14 months, but missed his 2nd camp because of a hand injury.
Edwards tore his ACL, MCL and PCL, and partially tore his LCL. If that wasn\’t bad enough, he also stretched his peroneal nerve and severed an artery that supplies blood to the lower leg. He almost lost the leg as a result of his injuries. At that time there were quite a few people, including his own doctors, that thought his football career was over. Edwards' injury is also worse than Jaylon's.

Here is some information regarding Spence's recovery and Edward's recovery:

9 months after injury - sound kind of similar to Jaylon now:
“Sean is progressing," said Colbert. "When you have as serious a knee injury as he unfortunately had, it sometimes is a very long process. Sometimes it takes over a year to fully rehabilitate. But the good thing is we are seeing signs of progress, albeit small steps. But it is progress. Sean’s attitude is off the charts. He wants to rehab. He wants to be a great player. He is working hard to get there. He is making small progress, and as long as he is making progress, we will be patient with him and hopefully get him back at full speed at some point." "It's healing," Spence said of the nerve damage. "It's healing slow, but I'm making progress each and every week."

After Sean Spence recovery of feeling (not foot drop):
Spence cried. Many times, in the six months that it took before there was any sign that specialist was wrong. It started with him being able to wiggle a toe. Then the next day he could wiggle another. Within a week the whole foot had sensation in it.

Edwards after recovery:
Edwards started his rehabilitation after his second surgery, but he couldn\’t pick up his foot or turn his ankle for several weeks because of the nerve damage that he had suffered. He stated in an interview that it was eight months before feeling returned in his foot.
I got my speed back down to a 4.4 (in the 40-yard dash),” Edwards said. “I was jumping 38 (inches) in the vertical. Everything felt normal. I felt exactly the way I felt my rookie year in the league. I mean running, cutting, everything.”
Very encouraging.
 

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Dr. Cooper is the surgeon who did the surgery and is Cowboys team doctor.
In a USA Today article, Cooper said Smith would likely need a redshirt season and that the nerve injury takes nine to 15 months to fully recover.
If you go with the upper limit on that guess, we are looking at April/May 2017, just in time to get in conditioning before training camp.
 

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Just hope he makes it back. Would be a huge addition to the defense in '17.
 

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I cut my thumb with a band saw in academy and it took probably 2 years to get good feeling back in that area of my thumb. I thought for a while that I'd just never feel that area of my thumb ever again. But slowly and eventually it returned even though u can still see the cut years and years later lol
 

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These are not 100% proof, but seems to be a lot of "smoke", so is there a fire?

May 7 (~4 months after surgery) - Jaylon comment:
He said the tingling down his leg and into his foot continues to advance, which can indicate the nerve axons are growing.

August 1 - Jaylon comment:
Smith said he has progressed to some lateral movements and some vertical running but reiterated there’s no timetable for a return.

October 3
Jaylon tweets "Oh lord, thank you"

Couple days after October
Jaylon agreed with interviewer that tweets could lead to misunderstanding about his recovery..., though he said he is still waiting on nerve...

October 10
Jaylon tweets picture of himself playing on the ground with 2 little kids, wearing shoes with no brace.

October 11
Jaylon tweets "Gods timing"

October 11 (~9 months after surgery) - Gil Brandt after dinner with Jaylon
Gil Brandt: He's feeling good. I think that he could come back later on this season, maybe the 13th-14th game of the season. Now he's doing everything. He tells me he's cutting on it and so forth.
 
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This could be one of the best drafts ever. Not just for the Cowboys. Ok. The Stealers with all the hall of famers was pretty good. But...
 

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Nerve damage is no joke. After chemo my nerves in my toes were damaged. Feels like I have frostbite nearly ever day , and some days are worse than others.
 

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Let's just hope they follow up in 2017 with at least a solid draft. That would really get this roster in order. 2 successive good deep drafts. No need to get cute or trade premium picks to trade up.

Serious needs
DE, CB then depending on Jaylon also LB
WR then for development RT/G
 
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