Jaylon Smith Change of Direction Analysis

[dogunwo]

I'm actually looking at the video and it is hard to tell. Both feet look the same to me.

People are seeing what they want to see on the video. I don't see much of anything either. If I am forcing myself to see something, it looks like the left foot might be a little bigger due to padding/taping.

 

[TRUTH87]

Broaddus said yesteday expectations are OTAs brace or not.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

My buddy is a Dr. (PT, i always use the Hangover line "Yeah, but you're not a real doctor. You're just a PT"), he said it's basically up to how well he can drive with the brace. Lateral mobility and backpedaling shouldn't be an issue. It's the fact that he doesn't have control of his calf, and it's one of, if not the strongest muscle in the body (can't remember which he said).

Main issue is going to be driving on the ball, short passes etc. It's just impossible to tell how well he'd play with the brace. Obviously not nearly as well as he would without. This is the same guy that called Dez' injury to the week, even before it was "official". Haha, we watch games sometimes, and he saw the injury and then he just said it out loud without me even asking.

It's not exact obviously if you didn't do the original diagnosis, but he knows his stuff. He laughed when we made the pick, didn't think he'd ever play again, but he conceded that Dr. Cooper is a leader in the field and prob knows best.

Drop foot doesn't effect the calf in terms of push-off. It impacts the muscles used to pull the foot up (keeping it from dragging).

 

[visionary]

I'm actually looking at the video and it is hard to tell. Both feet look the same to me.

I agree but when you are doing something rapidly with both extremities simultabeously it is very difficult for your brain to do one differently than the other so he picks up both feet very little

We'll see
Difficult to tell at present

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I agree but when you are doing something rapidly with both extremities simultabeously it is very difficult for your brain to do one differently than the other so he picks up both feet very little

We'll see
Difficult to tell at present

Not when an injury is involved.

 

[jazzcat22]

I kind of had to chuckle that you asked the "doctors" on this forum for their analysis.
Anyone that's been here for a given amount of time knows that here at Cowboyszone, we are all doctors, we are all NFL scouts, we are all NFL coaches, we are all NFL officials, we are all NFL commissioners, we are all lawyers, we are all NFL players and we are all NFL owners.

....yeah, we all know better than anyone else....only on the internet this happens....well actually I know someone in real life that knows it all and has done it all, just ask him, he will tell you...
He works for a commercial company, but yet somehow they do military missions where he is in charge, but he can't talk about it....his job is crew chief in the baggage department for an airline company.....

And it would be very hard to tell even for a real doctor from a short video. And if someone claims they can tell a lot from that, I would question it still. Take nothing away from what they do in real life and can actually study the person though. However, their opinions will be good to read.

Anyway, I hope Jaylon has a great off season and we shall see in TC if not before. But this is great progress from where he was a year ago.

 

[waldoputty]

The brace inhibits range of motion.

From Wiki, the calf is the back portion of the lower leg in human anatomy. The muscles within the calf correspond to the posterior compartment of the leg. The two largest muscles within this compartment are known together as the calf muscle and attach to the heel via the Achilles tendon.

Where would it constraint motion?
If it constrains motion, how in the world does he run a 4.4/4.5?

 

[waldoputty]

I think I read somewhere where Jaylon himself said the nerves were firing.
Anyway, if he's doing drills with forward and lateral movement, that's an encouraging sign. I'm not a doctor, though. I just like what I see. And if Jaylon says he's getting better, that's good enough for me. He knows better than anyone if his nerve is firing.

Dr Cooper said 9-15 months for 'full recover'
15 months is beginning of april

 

[Bizwah]

Dr Cooper said 9-15 months for 'full recover'
15 months is beginning of april

I think this is what so many are missing. I remember reading it was more like 9-18 months. Regardless, he's on target.

 

[CowboysRule]

I think I have heard people mention they can do a nerve graft if the original nerve doesn't heal properly. I'm assuming they would want to give this one the needed time before they go that route but what kind of recovery timeline would we be looking that if they had to go that route?

 

[gmoney112]

Drop foot doesn't effect the calf in terms of push-off. It impacts the muscles used to pull the foot up (keeping it from dragging).

Yeah he was just talking about the brace, I basically just asked him what the deal with the brace was and if he could play with it.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

From Wiki, the calf is the back portion of the lower leg in human anatomy. The muscles within the calf correspond to the posterior compartment of the leg. The two largest muscles within this compartment are known together as the calf muscle and attach to the heel via the Achilles tendon.

Where would it constraint motion?
If it constrains motion, how in the world does he run a 4.4/4.5?

When you run you do not keep your foot level like that. It dips and comes back up. I agree taht with constrained motion it is unlikely he would return to his previous form.

Who says he is still wearing the cast though?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

On a side note, the character Peter Quinn in the show Homeland is wearing a dropfoot brace.

 

[gmoney112]

When you run you do not keep your foot level like that. It dips and comes back up. I agree taht with constrained motion it is unlikely he would return to his previous form.

Who says he is still wearing the cast though?

I'm thinking it'd have gotten out if he wasn't wearing it. I don't know if Jerry could play coy with that news, he'd spontaneously combust.

Maybe not. Who knows

 

[DandyDon52]

My wife's family are BIG notre dame fans. They also watched Jaylon play in high school. From all I can gather and I believe the Cowboys came to the same conclusion, this guy is a generational type player. Athletically, intellectually, and his hard work and deternination put him on another level from others. --imo.

I guess we'll see soon enough.

If he is then it is just a matter of the nerve healing, and time to get back to playing football, but that could still take some time.
He may be ready to play in 2017 so just have to wait and see.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm thinking it'd have gotten out if he wasn't wearing it. I don't know if Jerry could play coy with that news, he'd spontaneously combust.

Maybe not. Who knows

Doctors and PT types are not going to want the press second guessing his rehab. They were similarly coy about Anthony Spencer's recovery from microfracture a few years back.

 

[Bizwah]

People are seeing what they want to see on the video. I don't see much of anything either. If I am forcing myself to see something, it looks like the left foot might be a little bigger due to padding/taping.

Agreed. I really don't see much of a difference. I have nothing to compare it to. If there was a video of him before the injury, it would be easier to see what kind of progress he's making. Right now, I can't see much of a difference in his feet.

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

Dr Cooper said 9-15 months for 'full recover'
15 months is beginning of april

http://www.espn.com/blog/dallas/cow...n-coopers-expertise-in-selecting-jaylon-smith

That's the article where the time is mentioned (9-15 months). People were going with the growth of the nerve every month too much. In the end, the doctor said it could take more than a year to recover, which we're on schedule for so far.

 

[TheCount]

On a side note, the character Peter Quinn in the show Homeland is wearing a dropfoot brace.

Can he rush the passer? Let's draft him.

 

[waldoputty]

I think this is what so many are missing. I remember reading it was more like 9-18 months. Regardless, he's on target.

I am pretty sure it was 15 at the max, which is a pretty big range.
We were all hoping for 9 because the doctor also said 1 inch per month and it had 6 inches to go.
I read a case where the patient had a more severe injury but no longer needed the brace in less than 9 months...
Recovery with or without brace, it sure looks like he will play.
People with nerve damage can perform well but still have a sudden lost of strength that happens every so often.
Even with a complete recovery, there is always the worry that that could be an injury risk there - so he may continue to wear some type of brace or support.