Jaylon Smith Without Brace

FuzzyLumpkins said:
I watched him cut in the game and only saw him overrun stuff. I did not see him get juked. That would be Nzeocha.

The only person that I have seen claim that is Broaddus and he says he sees it in practice. I don't trust him particularly not on this issue.

How many times does he need to be wrong before people stop paying attention. I don't watch Talkin Cowboys anymore now that it is him and Spagnola
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Broaddus has definitely been in the Negative Nelly club when it comes to Jaylon. To the point where he has lost credibility. I think there are still slight issues with Jaylon but I have no doubt he could play right now and be an effective LB. He easily reacts as well as any of the LB's on our roster and his straight line speed is impressive. The lateral agility will improve with time and he will also learn to adjust how he plays if he never makes it to 100%. Right now it is still a learning process for him. The question is how close will he get to being the LB out of Notre Dame that was a top 5 pick pre injury.
 
RedLine said:
I was out at The Star yesterday watching practice (8/23). Jaylon was not practicing, he was just running around in shorts and his jersey. I noticed he was not wearing his brace. He did not have his foot and ankle taped up so it was easy to see the brace was not in use.

He was able to move around without a limp at all. I saw him running around a bit with no issue. I am sure the brace is needed when he practices and plays in a game, but it was really nice to see that he can walk and move around fine without it.
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8/23 Broaddus:

I noticed that Jaylon Smith took on a blocker and ball carrier where he had both feet planted on the ground in a power position. He took on the block of Jonathan Cooper with his left shoulder and disengaged. Then, he finished the tackle on Darren McFadden with his right shoulder with power. Initially, he would take blockers on, but he would lift his left leg up off the ground, making himself a one legged player. I believe he is starting to show some confidence in that foot and how it will hold up.
 
It just want to see how Jaylon plays against the Raiders and see how he responds. Does he take better angles, gets in on a few more tackles, pass coverage, blitzes. All the other stuff will take care of itself I time,

I think basically he just needs reps, get back to the speed of the game itself. Then instincts take over and he heals more each day
 
jday said:
I've been watching for it and haven't seen it.

Are you saying you saw him cut in this past preseason game or are you referring to the recent video of him completing drills?
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so the training staff is allowing the coaching staff allow a guy on the field who cant cut properly? i think im gonna give them a lot more credit than that.
 
FuzzyLumpkins said:
I watched him cut in the game and only saw him overrun stuff. I did not see him get juked. That would be Nzeocha.
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True, but most of the situations never put him in a position to have to pivot.

Not taking anything away from his comeback. That alone was better than many players could ever do.

I just think some are reading too much into it.

He will keeping working. No question about that.

Just seems like that there are some expectations that are being assigned.
 
FuzzyLumpkins said:
I watched him cut in the game and only saw him overrun stuff. I did not see him get juked. That would be Nzeocha.

The only person that I have seen claim that is Broaddus and he says he sees it in practice. I don't trust him particularly not on this issue.

How many times does he need to be wrong before people stop paying attention. I don't watch Talkin Cowboys anymore now that it is him and Spagnola
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I wasn't basing that on what Broaddus is saying. I'm basing it on what I observed. He seems to struggle with changing direction. You are welcome to disagree. :thumbup:
 
Alexander said:
True, but most of the situations never put him in a position to have to pivot.

Not taking anything away from his comeback. That alone was better than many players could ever do.

I just think some are reading too much into it.

He will keeping working. No question about that.

Just seems like that there are some expectations that are being assigned.
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When he drops into coverage he does and he seems fine turning and changing directions there.
 
FuzzyLumpkins said:
I watched him cut in the game and only saw him overrun stuff. I did not see him get juked. That would be Nzeocha.

The only person that I have seen claim that is Broaddus and he says he sees it in practice. I don't trust him particularly not on this issue.

How many times does he need to be wrong before people stop paying attention. I don't watch Talkin Cowboys anymore now that it is him and Spagnola
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Broaddus is a moron.
 
Fla Cowpoke said:
Broaddus has definitely been in the Negative Nelly club when it comes to Jaylon. To the point where he has lost credibility. I think there are still slight issues with Jaylon but I have no doubt he could play right now and be an effective LB. He easily reacts as well as any of the LB's on our roster and his straight line speed is impressive. The lateral agility will improve with time and he will also learn to adjust how he plays if he never makes it to 100%. Right now it is still a learning process for him. The question is how close will he get to being the LB out of Notre Dame that was a top 5 pick pre injury.
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Broaddus was shown to be a clown years ago but people keep buying into his nonsense.
 
speedkilz88 said:
8/23 Broaddus:

I noticed that Jaylon Smith took on a blocker and ball carrier where he had both feet planted on the ground in a power position. He took on the block of Jonathan Cooper with his left shoulder and disengaged. Then, he finished the tackle on Darren McFadden with his right shoulder with power. Initially, he would take blockers on, but he would lift his left leg up off the ground, making himself a one legged player. I believe he is starting to show some confidence in that foot and how it will hold up.
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That does not make sense to me. The only issue caused by the nerve is lifting the toes up. Pushing against an OL is using the opposite muscles and different nerves. Lifting his foot up would not protect his nerve related issue.
 
I called it early in the offseason when Broaddus was down on Jaylon that he'd end up doing his usual mea culpa schtick "I tell ya...I was wrong about Player X... so-and-so had it right."
 
xwalker said:
That does not make sense to me. The only issue caused by the nerve is lifting the toes up. Pushing against an OL is using the opposite muscles and different nerves. Lifting his foot up would not protect his nerve related issue.
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Jaylon's injury occurred on essentially a non-contact play when his knee hyperextended and basically folded after being pushed at the end of a play. I can imagine Jaylon being somewhat tentative as he learns to trust the strength in his leg especially under the torque of taking on an offensive lineman.
 
It's hard not to get excited about Jaylon and assign expectations given the speed and awareness we already see, his tremendous talent assuming he can get back to 100 percent and knowing his work ethic and attitude. He's not playing perfect football yet, far from it, but if he were a rookie we just drafted and he didn't have the injury I would be getting stoked by what little I've seen so far.
 
jday said:
If I understand the nature of his issue, running and stopping in a straight line is not the issue. The question is rather or not he can place stress in his knee when quickly changing direction at full speed. When he can do that, he's 100% ready.
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He probably can, physically, but I anticipate he'll be wearing the brace all of this year as a mental thing.

We won't see Jaylon at 100% capacity until next season. Still, 80% is better than probably all of the other backup linebackers combined.
 
CalPolyTechnique said:
Jaylon's injury occurred on essentially a non-contact play when his knee hyperextended and basically folded after being pushed at the end of a play. I can imagine Jaylon being somewhat tentative as he learns to trust the strength in his leg especially under the torque of taking on an offensive lineman.
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It's been about 20 months since the injury and he has spent an inordinate amount of time rehabbing according to team officials.

I guess it's possible but it seems odd. Any report about Jaylon is assumed to be nerve related. If Broaddus meant that Jaylon had an issue that is not nerve related, then he should make that clear.

My main point is that Broaddus can see something happen 1 times and he'll report it as-if it's been a regular occurrence.
 
xwalker said:
It's been about 20 months since the injury and he has spent an inordinate amount of time rehabbing according to team officials.

I guess it's possible but it seems odd. Any report about Jaylon is assumed to be nerve related. If Broaddus meant that Jaylon had an issue that is not nerve related, then he should make that clear.

My main point is that Broaddus can see something happen 1 times and he'll report it as-if it's been a regular occurrence.
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You have to remember that it may have been 20 months but that was Jaylon's first real game action since the injury.

Agreed on Broaduss' short sided takes.
 
Crazy this thread is only at 2 pages. If this was before preseason games started and the zeke suspension it'd already be at 10 pages minimum.
 
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