Jeanty - pro day drop

quickccc said:
Occasionally you will have backs like Derrick Henry who posts just average 40 times
as he supposedly had a time of 4.54 at the combine.

But Henry played and performed high at top competition SEC and outside conference, at the college level ...and clearly came into his own as a legit breakaway performer at the nfl level.

Jeanty breakaway from vs the likes of San Jose state , Hawaii, and UNLV ..and now purposely skipping both nfl combine and pro day doesn't hold well for erasing doubts about his speed, imo.
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There were never doubts about his speed though lol

No one who watched college football thought jeanty was slow, that's why he was predicted to run 4.42 on draft sites.

Still no one has cared about jeanty skipping the 40 besides fans on forums that's why he's still the consensus 4-6 best player in the draft.
 
atlantacowboy said:
We can only aspire to your level of intelligence.


There is a small sample of him running against legit defenses. You can ignore them if you want. But, as you so articulately pointed out , OUR opinions are meaningless (not just mine).
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I’m going to ramble.

You might have a point, if we were talking about some mid athlete running for 80-90 yards a game against small school defenses.

He wasn’t that. He was frequently dominating the competition. He was stiff arming people. Cutting them. Bowling them over. Breaking tackles. Defenders flying off him like he’s greased with oil. Dominating them… the way you would expect an elite prospect to dominate lesser opponents.

He was his team’s entire offense.

Boise State running Jeanty into the dirt for 2000 yards and then losing in the playoffs reminds me of Minnesota running Adrian Peterson into the dirt for 2000 yards and then losing in the playoffs in 2012, because they were both their team’s entire offense, and obviously a great team in the playoffs was going to figure out how to stop them and force their lame QBs into trying to win the game.

Jeanty played three top-25 teams ranked last season, and ran for 505 yards against them.

And I’m not even a Jeanty fanboy. I’m really rooting for a trade down to take the best pass rushing DT available or Mike Green if he isn’t a complete buttcheek.
 
DoctorChicken said:
I’m going to ramble.

You might have a point, if we were talking about some mid athlete running for 80-90 yards a game against small school defenses.

He wasn’t that. He was frequently dominating the competition. He was stiff arming people. Cutting them. Bowling them over. Breaking tackles. Defenders flying off him like he’s greased with oil. Dominating them… the way you would expect an elite prospect to dominate lesser opponents.

He was his team’s entire offense.

Boise State running Jeanty into the dirt for 2000 yards and then losing in the playoffs reminds me of Minnesota running Adrian Peterson into the dirt for 2000 yards and then losing in the playoffs in 2012, because they were both their team’s entire offense, and obviously a great team in the playoffs was going to figure out how to stop them and force their lame QBs into trying to win the game.

Jeanty played three top-25 teams ranked last season, and ran for 505 yards against them.

And I’m not even a Jeanty fanboy. I’m really rooting for a trade down to take the best pass rushing DT available or Mike Green if he isn’t a complete buttcheek.
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I'm not of the opinion that the Dallas Cowboys should be drafting running backs in the first round. Jeanty is a first round running back but he is no Adrian Peterson or Saqaun Barkley just b/c he dominated his mid major competition. What would he be in the SEC or Big 10? It took him over 30 carries to break 100 yards against PSU. To me , that small sample is more telling than all the mountain west games combined...... It's just my opinion.
 
atlantacowboy said:
I'm not of the opinion that the Dallas Cowboys should be drafting running backs in the first round. Jeanty is a first round running back but he is no Adrian Peterson or Saqaun Barkley just b/c he dominated his mid major competition. What would he be in the SEC or Big 10? It took him over 30 carries to break 100 yards against PSU. To me , that small sample is more telling than all the mountain west games combined...... It's just my opinion.
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Let's not mention that Penn state was an elite defense (rank 7) and an elite run defense, with real nfl talent on their team.
 
Ekspozed said:
Let's not mention that Penn state was an elite defense (rank 7) and an elite run defense, with real nfl talent on their team.
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while Jeanty was pretty much all the real NFL talent on the offense of Boise State. So the rather snobby types bleating are looking stupid as usual.
 
Ekspozed said:
Let's not mention that Penn state was an elite defense (rank 7) and an elite run defense, with real nfl talent on their team.
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No, let's mention it bc he looked pretty pedestrian against them. What is he going to do next year facing 11 actual NFL players?
 
atlantacowboy said:
No, let's mention it bc he looked pretty pedestrian against them. What is he going to do next year facing 11 actual NFL players?
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how is he going to do with 10 other ACTUAL NFL players besides him on Offense?

See how that works?
 
darthseinfeld said:
Scouts have his GPS time. Dont know why they even bother with 40's anymore. It's obsolete
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Yes plus I never understood why they run the drill with no gear on. A person that runs a 4.45 may be the same speed as someone that runs a 4.55 with pads on.
 
locked&loaded said:
Have people not watched this guy? How are we questioning his speed?
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For some reason people have really taken a liking to ragging on him even though he is one of the best running back prospects we’ve seen in a while.

He’ll blow the doors off the NFL just like he did in college.
 
Ekspozed said:


His rank is 4 with the avg from everywhere being number 6 rated player.
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Yeah, our only hope at having a shot at him is him not running a 40-yard dash, and even then, we've got no shot.
 
Aliencowboy said:
How can he skip the 40? My guess is his agent when knowing the projected time advised against it so he doesn’t fall to later round 1.

I think 4.6.

If your 10-yard split is elite that can compensate-think - Emitt Smith. Otherwise, Jeanty is a back that is going to take a lot of hits and be worn down after 3 years with average stats in the NFL.

No way would I pick him at 12.
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There are several reasons to not take a RB in the first round, but him wearing out shouldn't be one of them. You have the guy cheap for 4-5 years. What's wrong with that? Even if they paid him beyond that, RBs still don't make that much. But unless we have the OL, it's not going to matter who plays RB.
 
Flamma said:
There are several reasons to not take a RB in the first round, but him wearing out shouldn't be one of them. You have the guy cheap for 4-5 years. What's wrong with that? Even if they paid him beyond that, RBs still don't make that much. But unless we have the OL, it's not going to matter who plays RB.
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Steele was playing better towards the end of last season and further removed from surgery. Bebe was solid as a rookie and will be better year 2. Tyler Smith will be all pro. Tyler Guyton 1st round potential, his play wasn't terrible it was mainly penalties.

Mixed with a better boaching staff and ol guru.

Last year behind this line rico got 1
Over 1k yards while not getting a bunch of carries early in the season.

A talented back who can make someone miss, break a tackle, get something with nothing there, ect can also make a line/run game better.

There's 2 first round picks on our oline. How many teams have more ?
 
Ekspozed said:
Steele was playing better towards the end of last season and further removed from surgery. Bebe was solid as a rookie and will be better year 2. Tyler Smith will be all pro. Tyler Guyton 1st round potential, his play wasn't terrible it was mainly penalties.

Mixed with a better boaching staff and ol guru.

Last year behind this line rico got 1
Over 1k yards while not getting a bunch of carries early in the season.

A talented back who can make someone miss, break a tackle, get something with nothing there, ect can also make a line/run game better.

There's 2 first round picks on our oline. How many teams have more ?
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Look, we both know the RB doesn't matter without the OL. I'm just wondering, do we have the OL? I hope we do. Barkley is the perfect example of what happens to a RB without a good OL until he got to Philly.
 
Flamma said:
There are several reasons to not take a RB in the first round, but him wearing out shouldn't be one of them. You have the guy cheap for 4-5 years. What's wrong with that? Even if they paid him beyond that, RBs still don't make that much. But unless we have the OL, it's not going to matter who plays RB.
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I don’t think this RB is worth a top 15 pick. This style is not going to produce more than an average starter. To me, there are red flags. His NFL comp is Melvin Gordon.
 
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