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awesome, thanks theebs, wanted to hear what jeff ireland had to say about some of the draft picks;
 

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The Stanback pick seems to be all Ireland and the area scout. Thats how I want things done, even if Stanback doesn't pan out. But Ireland seemed to be pretty giddy about landing the guy.
 

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We almost moved back into the 1st round with Kansas City after we moved out of the first round.

Main thing about Spencer is that he is a pressure player. Ireland says we cannot have enough of them.
 

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Ireland says don't worry about our NT position.

We are playing a different defense. Last year, Fergy had two gap responsibility. We needed a big, strong, stout, leverage player to do that.

This defense is more of a 1 gap defense, penetrating NT. We need quickness. We don't need a 6'4" 320 pound guy to do that. Ratliff and Stephen Bown, guys like that can fill in. We signed a guy in Ola....we need to keep an eye out. We also got a guy in Stanley we like. Sometimes it takes a year.

We looked at Walter Thomas. But its not necessarily the kind of guy we are looking for.



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So basically, we have what we need.

Either Ireland is dumb. Or we are dumb.

Want to hedge bets?
 

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Vintage;1485486 said:
Ireland says don't worry about our NT position.

We are playing a different defense. Last year, Fergy had two gap responsibility. We needed a big, strong, stout, leverage player to do that.

This defense is more of a 1 gap defense, penetrating NT. We need quickness. We don't need a 6'4" 320 pound guy to do that. Ratliff and Stephen Bown, guys like that can fill in. We signed a guy in Ola....we need to keep an eye out. We also got a guy in Stanley we like. Sometimes it takes a year.

We looked at Walter Thomas. But its not necessarily the kind of guy we are looking for.



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So basically, we have what we need.

Either Ireland is dumb. Or we are dumb.

Want to hedge bets?


Yes I wish everyone would listen to that. Stop worrying about height and weight of our tackles, because that is not the most important.

That soundclip should be stickied to this site, when you sign on it says over and over, we dont need a nose tackle, we dont need a nose tackle.
 

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We didn't think Spencer would be at 36, so that's why we went back into round 1.

Courtney Brown has good height, weight, speed guy. But he also had good production. He has all the tangible things for a guy who can come in and make a spot for him at the corner position on the roster.

He was productive. You want a guy from a smaller college to dominate. We saw enough of that to merit drafting him. We were surprised he was there in the 7th round.

Spagola and other guy talk about Stanbeck....

No doubt about it, he is a phenomenal athlete. I didn't go to Washington this year, but I've seen this kid play 3 or 4 times over the past two years. Area scout came in and told me his broke his foot. I put him on the back burner. THe area scout came back and put a tape together for me and said "you've got to see this." I couldn't believe it. He was one of my favorite players on the board. Hes a great kid. I had to keep stopping the tape and telling people what I envision him as - other scouts laughed at me when I did that. He is big, fast, has all the ability in the world. This guy will turn out. He can fly.



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I have to go turn in a paper....sorry I couldn't do more.

These aren't direct quotes, but most of the words I used were spoken by Ireland. I tried to go as fast as I could, but I couldnt keep up.
 

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theebs;1485488 said:
Yes I wish everyone would listen to that. Stop worrying about height and weight of our tackles, because that is not the most important.

That soundclip should be stickied to this site, when you sign on it says over and over, we dont need a nose tackle, we dont need a nose tackle.
OK...but Wade Phillips had a massive NT in Jamal Williams...so while they are saying it does not matter, Phillips success was with a big NT.
 

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Vintage;1485491 said:
We didn't think Spencer would be at 36, so that's why we went back into round 1.

Courtney Brown has good height, weight, speed guy. But he also had good production. He has all the tangible things for a guy who can come in and make a spot for him at the corner position on the roster.

He was productive. You want a guy from a smaller college to dominate. We saw enough of that to merit drafting him. We were surprised he was there in the 7th round.

Spagola and other guy talk about Stanbeck....

No doubt about it, he is a phenomenal athlete. I didn't go to Washington this year, but I've seen this kid play 3 or 4 times over the past two years. Area scout came in and told me his broke his foot. I put him on the back burner. THe area scout came back and put a tape together for me and said "you've got to see this." I couldn't believe it. He was one of my favorite players on the board. Hes a great kid. I had to keep stopping the tape and telling people what I envision him as - other scouts laughed at me when I did that. He is big, fast, has all the ability in the world. This guy will turn out. He can fly.



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I have to go turn in a paper....sorry I couldn't do more.

These aren't direct quotes, but most of the words I used were spoken by Ireland. I tried to go as fast as I could, but I couldnt keep up.

Did he say what he envisions him as? WR, QB, both?
 

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He inherited Jamal Williams when he came to San Diego. Of course he had success with him, he's a Pro Bowl player. But he didn't go out and get him because he had to have him to run his defense.

Ed Jasper was his NT at Atlanta was also a highly productive NT for him at 6'2" 295 lbs.
 

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I think people are gonna be surprised at what Ratliff will do in this D. He's a very active 6'4" 305 and comong off a 4 sack season in Parcells D.
 

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InmanRoshi;1485496 said:
He inherited Jamal Williams when he came to San Diego. Of course he had success with him, he's a Pro Bowl player. But he didn't go out and get him because he had to have him to run his defense.

Ed Jasper was his NT at Atlanta was also a highly productive NT for him at 6'2" 295 lbs.
He also had Ted Washington in Buffalo...
 

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That was Great!!!.

Listening to Jeff Ireland is equivalent to football ectasy:p: .

Almost like a Mini-Parcells.

The Deon Anderson stuff was great. The guy slept in a football closet/building (or something along those lines) cause he couldn't afford housing.

The Isiah Stanback talk was crazy. Is he a phenom?

It's going to be along Summer:bang2:
 

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carphalen5150;1485510 said:
He also had Ted Washington in Buffalo...

J Christ, Ireland just said that our NT needs to be a 1-gap player, because that's Wade's scheme
 

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Bob Sacamano;1485546 said:
J Christ, Ireland just said that our NT needs to be a 1-gap player, because that's Wade's scheme
Calm down tough guy...Phillips has had good success with big NTs. He used big NTs before, just pointing that out.
 

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carphalen5150;1485571 said:
Calm down tough guy...Phillips has had good success with big NTs. He used big NTs before, just pointing that out.

tough guy? wow, thin-skinned much? you don't need to point out every big NT Wade has had success w/ unless you're saying we need to have one, is that what you're saying? just come out w/ it man
 

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That has to be one of the coolest interviews I've ever heard. Gotta love this Ireland guy.
 

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theebs;1485488 said:
Yes I wish everyone would listen to that. Stop worrying about height and weight of our tackles, because that is not the most important.

That soundclip should be stickied to this site, when you sign on it says over and over, we dont need a nose tackle, we dont need a nose tackle.
One gap responisibility should help M. Stanley come closer to the player he was in college, and the player we all fell in love with after his draft interview.
 

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/don_banks/news/2002/07/14/falcons_defense/

Quick study
Phillips thinks Falcons will flock to 3-4 defensive scheme
Posted: Sunday July 14, 2002 3:22 PM

Don Banks - Inside the NFL

FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. -- If Wade Phillips' memory serves him correctly, once upon a time in the NFL, 26 of the league's then 28 teams employed the 3-4 defensive scheme. That was 20 years ago, in the early 1980s, when he was the New Orleans Saints' up-and-coming defensive coordinator on his father's coaching staff.

But in football as on Wall Street, fads fade, trends reverse and almost everything falls prey to cyclical forces. Maybe that's why Phillips all but shrugs at the notion that the 3-4 is making a bit of a comeback this season, with appropriately enough, three or four teams (depending on Baltimore's level of long-term commitment) planning to employ the 3-4 -- up from last year's lone practitioner, Pittsburgh.

Phillips, in his first season as Atlanta's defensive coordinator, is in the midst of turning the Falcons on to the wonders of using three linemen and four linebackers in their base defense. Tough selling job, considering that 30 of 31 NFL teams didn't see fit to field such a formation a year ago?

"Not hardly," Phillips said last week, taking a timeout from the Falcons' two-day minicamp, their last dress rehearsal before the July 25 opening of training camp. "Because this team was at the bottom with the 4-3. They were looking for something new. Players take to it pretty easy in that situation.

"Sure, there were a lot of teams playing the 4-3 in recent years. But a lot of them were losing with it, and this team was one of them. You've got to look at that. Most of the teams that have played the 3-4 recently, like Pittsburgh and us in Buffalo, have done pretty well with it."

It's not that Phillips fancies himself the game's great apostle of the 3-4, preaching its virtues far and wide. It's just that he puts his faith in the numbers, and the numbers support it in Atlanta. Add them all up, he says, and the bottom line spells 3-4.

"They were 31st in pass defense, 30th against average per rush, and 30th overall in defense," Phillips said of the 2001 Falcons. "So there was a lot that needed improving. And then we have more linebackers who can play than we do linemen. And that's a factor. To play a four-man line, you don't have to have four guys. You really have to find seven guys who can play and rotate them.

"Well we've got eight or nine linebackers on this team right now who can play. So it just makes sense for us to go to the 3-4."

Categorize the Falcons' switch to the 3-4 anyway you want -- desperation or inspiration on the behalf of head coach Dan Reeves -- it's hard to quibble with Phillips' track record in turnaround situations. In his most recent two defensive coordinator jobs, Phillips made an immediate impact. In 1989, he took over a Broncos defense that had slumped badly the year before and had it ranked No. 1 in the AFC in fewest points allowed that season. By 1991, Denver's 3-4 defense led the conference in 12 different categories.

Reeves, who hired Phillips in Denver 13 years ago, would take a repeat of that scenario in a heartbeat. Phillips worked roughly the same magic in Buffalo in 1995, coaching a unit that wound up with an NFL-high 49 sacks. The Bills that season also boasted the league's defensive most valuable player, converted outside rush linebacker Bryce Paup, who led the NFL in sacks with 17 1/2. Named Buffalo's head coach in 1998, Phillips' defense ranked sixth, first and third overall in his three seasons on the job.

But the Falcons aren't guaranteed the same type of success just because Phillips has arrived with his favorite scheme in tow. Schemes are fine. But it remains to be seen whether Phillips has the right pieces to make the 3-4 work.

"What I've learned is that the defensive scheme doesn't make as much difference as the personnel," he said. "And once you get the personnel, what do you do with it? If you lose, it's usually because you don't have enough great players. I'd like to think it's coaching and that I can do this or that. And I think coaching makes a difference. I wouldn't be in it if I thought you just sponsored them.

"But good players make the biggest difference. We need to get some more good players, and then maybe have some guys who are here flourish in the new system. Those kind of things can happen. They have in the past."

He didn't say so, but I got the feeling that Phillips, like the rest of us, still has more questions than answers when it comes to how the Falcons will take to their new 3-4 look.

Can team sack leader Patrick Kerney switch from left end -- where he had a career-best 12 sacks in 2001 -- to rush linebacker without turning one of the Falcons' strengths into a potential weakness? Is 275-pound right end Brady Smith big enough to handle the a role that will be more physically taxing than that of an edge rusher? And can the undersized Ed Jasper, who isn't the beefy, 320-pound nose tackle that some 3-4 proponents crave, hold his own in the middle?

"You have to have speed in this defense, and I think we're quick enough," Phillips said. "In this defense, you're more mobile. You've got one more guy who's going to run to the football. But you're not as physical up front and that's what you worry about."

Despite the unknowns, Phillips possesses an easy confidence in his system, and it shows. He believes that the 3-4 will free up the athletic Kerney and blossoming inside linebacker Keith Brooking to chase the ball and make big plays. He points out that he has won with both bulk (Ted Washington) and lighter, more mobile players in the nose tackle slot (Greg Kragen, Pat Williams), and can make do with either style. And repeatedly he lauds the combination of smart, hard-working, high-character players that Reeves has assembled in Atlanta.

"This is probably the smartest group I've been around," Phillips said. "So there's a lot you can do with them. Those type of guys, they're going to improve."

If they do, thereby reversing a three-year downward trend in terms of Atlanta's defense (8th in the Super Bowl season of 1998, 16th in 1999, 25th in 2000 and 30th last year), Phillips and his trusty 3-4 formation will no doubt receive much of the credit. Who knows, it may even spawn another even bigger wave of that retro trend called the 3-4.

"We're all copycats in this league," said Phillips with a smile. "There's nothing new in the NFL."

Don Banks covers pro football for CNNSI.com.
 

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"We want Tony to know that we have a lot of confidence in him. And we have some areas around the team we could better fill. I think it was a really good day for us." I have been saying this
 
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