Jenkins reinjures ankle, has bone spur

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Hostile;2897392 said:
I thought he looked good tonight except for the TD. He was expecting double coverage deep but he has to hit the receiver to jam him first.

Yeah, if people aren't expecting him to make some mistakes, they are in for a frustrating season. He's a second-year corner and he's going to give up some plays, as will Scandrick.

We need to judge overall performance, not jump to conclusions on a few bad plays ... but that's not how things seem to be done around here.
 

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bbgun;2897447 said:
So was the spur caused by the training camp injury?

Yes. He said he had bone spurs when he came back from it.
 

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41gy#;2897389 said:
Mike Jenkins:

O.k. I went back and looked at the game log and compared it to what I saw.

If you toss out the play in the redzone, there were 5 passes directly at Jenkins in man coverage.

1. Bomb to Nate Washington - Jenkins won/Great coverage/play 0 yards
2. 3-8 Dallas 32 10 yard catch/1st down
3. 1-10 (next play) 5 yard catch
4. Bomb to Kenny Britt (line of scrimmage was Tenn 33, the ball was broken up by Jenkins at the Dallas 25.) That was a major league bomb. Young has a very strong arm. 0 yards
5. Bomb to Kenny Britt down the left sideline. Jenkins had him covered like a blanket.

That is 3 bombs thrown at him, and Jenkins won all three. Those were the plays that mattered. Mike Jenkins stopped three bombs. I told you guys Tennessee would go deep, and they picked on Jenkins. Jenkins won the battle.

Again, if you grade him on a little curve, he gave up 15 yards in those 5 plays. Those were the man to man plays.

5 attempts for 15 bloody yards.

Nah bro.

Go back and watch that second bomb. If Vince throws a good pass it's six points for the Titans.

Britt had to basically stop and wait for the hot air balloon to come down to him. Jenkins gave him a free release and he does that too much. It's the reason that TD looked so bad. He has to jam that WR and make him work to get into that deep half to allow Hamlin time to get over the top on that side of the field.

And he talked about the bone spurs last week. I talked it about it on my show the other night cause I was worried we were going to keep hearing him say over and over again that he's only playing at 85% which is what he said in the clip I played.

Scandrick should be starting. Period point blank.

Broaddus is right. The Cowboys are afraid he will go in the tank mentally if he's not a starter. Where as Scandrick will just tough it out and play whenever he gets the opportunity.

I don't know if it's about draft status or money or whatever. But if he can't be more physical at the LOS and he's going to let these WR's release like that he should be starting.

And I think he played ok tonight. But let's not overlook it when he didn't.
 

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gimmesix;2897472 said:
We need to judge overall performance, not jump to conclusions on a few bad plays ... but that's not how things seem to be done around here.

I'd say that's how things are done everywhere when it comes to 1st round draft picks that have a full season and 2 training camps under their belts.

They are expected to be impact players and not make mental mistakes.
 

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bbgun;2897447 said:
So was the spur caused by the training camp injury?
To my knowledge I have never had a bone spur, but man they sound awful. The name alone gives me the sissies. It's worse when I read groin tear though. I really turn on the sissy thinking of that one.
 

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I don't think he suffered this reinjury tonight. I watch every multimedia interview on dallascowboys.com (I'm a junkie) and in the last interview I saw with Jenkins, earlier this week, he mentioned something about having to play through pain all season.

He basically repeated that quote in this article, which leads me to believe that the bone spurs did not occur tonight.
 

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Everlastingxxx;2897326 said:
Whatever, Scan has earned the starting spot. Jenkins couldnt hold his jock.

I'm with you man. Scandrick has practiced and played his arse off and coupled with his performance from last season needs to be starting. This is football we need to stop coddling these damn mental midgets. If Jenkins can't handle not starting than he's not the corner back you want starting anyway cause as a CB you have to be mentally strong and not let bad plays bother you. Scandrick is saying all the right things but he knows he's getting hosed for the starting spot and its a crying shame cause the best player needs to play.
 

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Hostile;2897392 said:
I thought he looked good tonight except for the TD. He was expecting double coverage deep but he has to hit the receiver to jam him first.


Yes, he did look very good tonight. The TD was a mistake. He let the guy go too early. I'm glad it happened in the preseason so he could learn and be done with it.

The guy has oodles of talent and he played like it tonight.
 

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bbgun;2897447 said:
So was the spur caused by the training camp injury?

No. They were discovered after they did the MRI.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/mp3/players/MikeJenkins_081609.mp3

I hate lingering injuries.

More info on the spurs on the ankle...

http://www.eorthopod.com/public/patient_education/6583/ankle_impingement_problems.html

Over time, damage from past ankle sprains may also lead to the formation of small projections of bone called bone spurs. Bone spurs can form along the bottom ledge of the tibia bone or on the upper surface of the talus. As the ankle hinges into dorsiflexion, the bone spurs may begin to jab into the soft tissues along the front edge of the ankle joint, causing symptoms of anterior impingement.

What does ankle impingement feel like?
Anterior impingement may feel like ankle pain that continues long after an ankle sprain. The ankle may feel weak, like it can't be trusted to hold steady during routine activities. When anterior impingement comes from ligament irritation, pain and tissue thickening are usually felt in front and slightly to the side of the ankle. This is the area of the ATFL. The pain worsens as the foot is forced upward into dorsiflexion. If the ligaments have irritated the synovium of the ankle joint capsule, throbbing pain and swelling from inflammation (synovitis) may also be felt in this area.

Newman just had these removed in the off season.

http://startelegramsports.typepad.c...wman-crayton-and-stanback-have-surgeries.html

Cowboys cornerback Terence Newman and receiver Patrick Crayton had arthroscopic ankle surgeries Tuesday to remove bone spurs. Also, receiver/kick returner Isaiah Stanback had shoulder surgery last week.
 

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41gy#;2897416 said:
I agree with you, and that is easily correctable.
Jenkins can play through the bone spur. He looked dang good tonight.

I sure hope so, but something tells me that making it through 16 games with ankle/bone spur issues is not realistic.
 

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jacks1;2897592 said:
I sure hope so, but something tells me that making it through 16 games with ankle/bone spur issues is not realistic.

Practice aside, he only has to "work" three hours per week.
 

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I thought he looked solid and really am not concerned.

The problem could linger, but many players deal with this and still remain productive.

That being said, it's still pretty rough news after a good night.
 

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jacks1;2897592 said:
I sure hope so, but something tells me that making it through 16 games with ankle/bone spur issues is not realistic.

Yes it is.

Some guys play with them for years if they are small. They don't even realize they have them.
 

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dcfanatic;2897603 said:
Yes it is.

Some guys play with them for years if they are small. They don't even realize they have them.

...ummm, he does realize he has them and he says they are painful. Again, I certainly hope he can play through it, but would not be the least bit surprised if he needs to shut it down at some point this year.
 

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dcfanatic;2897483 said:
Nah bro.

Go back and watch that second bomb. If Vince throws a good pass it's six points for the Titans.

Britt had to basically stop and wait for the hot air balloon to come down to him. Jenkins gave him a free release and he does that too much. It's the reason that TD looked so bad. He has to jam that WR and make him work to get into that deep half to allow Hamlin time to get over the top on that side of the field.

And he talked about the bone spurs last week. I talked it about it on my show the other night cause I was worried we were going to keep hearing him say over and over again that he's only playing at 85% which is what he said in the clip I played.

Scandrick should be starting. Period point blank.

Broaddus is right. The Cowboys are afraid he will go in the tank mentally if he's not a starter. Where as Scandrick will just tough it out and play whenever he gets the opportunity.

I don't know if it's about draft status or money or whatever. But if he can't be more physical at the LOS and he's going to let these WR's release like that he should be starting.

And I think he played ok tonight. But let's not overlook it when he didn't.


If Young took a seven step drop, that ball went 57 yards in the air. Jenkins was stopping and going after that ball right with him, too. You and someone else are trying to tell me that Jenkins (4.38) couldn't catch Britt when he would have had more time to run him down if that ball goes around 60-65 yards in the air.

If that would have been the case, the ball would have hung up longer and given Jenkins more time to run it down. Jenkins is faster than Britt. Period, point blank. He couldn't beat him tonight. Jenkins would have still run him down. The fact that he ran it down at only 57 yards is impressive. Britt is huge and pretty fast for his size.

Jenkins is more physical than Scandrick. The CBs are not going to play press or bump on every play, and Jenkins is great in bump and run.

I don't see Scandrick breaking up that bomb to that 6-4 WR.

Also, Hamlin has a little blame on that cover 2, because he wasn't even close to that WR. He was way late on that TD.

Vince Young doesn't have arm strength issues. The deep ball is about the only pass he's good at right now.

On the one down the sidelines, Jenkins and Sensabaugh had that play cut off. The WR broke his stride a little, but he was getting run down.

Only in Dallas, can a guy make the plays and not get the credit.

It's black and white.

You either win or you lose, and Jenkins won the battle tonight.

Dallas 30

Titans 10
 

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Last week, that guy from Oakland got in front of Scandrick on a bomb. The safety was there to shut it down. The guy got late separation on Scandrick on that play.

I don't recall anyone saying anything.

Jenkins made the bloody plays tonight, and he gets no credit for it from some.

I documented the 5 plays where he was targeted directly in man coverage. 3.0 YPA

I graded him on a curve. I threw out the zone in the flat or TD. I counted the 5 targets where he was in man coverage.


Oh, well. It's America.
 

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I logged on tonight expecting people to be elated with how our starting CBs played. I really should have known better.
 

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41gy#;2897618 said:
Last week, that guy from Oakland got in front of Scandrick on a bomb. The safety was there to shut it down. The guy got late separation on Scandrick on that play.

I don't recall anyone saying anything.

Jenkins made the bloody plays tonight, and he gets no credit for it from some.

I documented the 5 plays where he was targeted directly in man coverage. 3.0 YPA

I graded him on a curve. I threw out the zone in the flat or TD. I counted the 5 targets where he was in man coverage.

Oh, well. It's America.

The WR wasn't 10 yards out in front and waitin on a pass for 3 minutes.

Tonight Britt was. The pass from Young was up in the air for 12 minutes. If it was on a rope for 67 yards it would have been money.

And why are we supposed to bow down to Jenkins and give him all kinds of credit cause you graded on a curve and took out the play where he screwed up and gave up a TD?

I just don't get it.

Then you want us to give him credit for a play where it's obvious he got beat and if the QB makes a good throw it's another TD.

It's insanity. People give him some credit and you want us to put him in the Hall of Fame.

What happens if he plays a game where he doesn't give up any TD's on this curve you grade with, do we make him president?
 

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I thought they could scope those spurs off pretty easily, but I guess the recovery time of even a few weeks is too long. Or maybe it's longer than that.

I think Jenkins is a good talent, but I still fear that he's like Chris Gamble in that he's going to be prone to mental busts. And of course at corner, just a couple of those can undo a lot of good work in a heartbeat.

I don't know what happened on the TD play where he got burned. It looked like he was playing cover 2 or something, because he just let his man go. Wade took the blame in the PC, but I suspect he was just covering for his player.

That's just the kind of thing I'm talking about with Jenkins, though. It's one reason CB is such a tough position to play. With most positions, a brain fart might cost you some yards, but it won't result in a TD. Not so at corner.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;2897415 said:
Jenkins had a tough night to me...

Ya, I didn't think he looked very good either.

Carry on...
 
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