Jerry and his “quarterback friendly offense” quotes over the years don’t help

75boyz

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If you genuinely think this team is being run the same now as in 2003 then hey man I don’t know what to tell ya.

Organization is run so so so much better now than the 27 year history you’re referring to. Stop trying to lump all that into every season. The FO is completely different and Jones has much less influence on football stuff than he had before and it’s not even remotely close.

JJ used to be the GM. He’s now just the figurehead. Things change over time man.
The end results sure haven't changed.
Regardless of HC or QB change.
Still the same GM.
And no, regular season wins are not success stories.

A division round ceiling is not change.
It's the same as it ever was.
 

75boyz

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Yea and I've heard that before too. Talk to me in January. We've had a few SB contending teams over the last 27 years and they were one and done in the playoffs. The only difference I see now is he's finally addressing the defense. JJ will never just be a figurehead. I guess people have to believe that to survive around here. Those 2 49er games tell me we have a ways to go before we even think we're winning a SB. I just hope we can somehow manage to stumble into a championship game somehow and the only reason we have a chance to do that is because the NFC is so weak.
This.
And exactly this.
 

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The end results sure haven't changed.
Regardless of HC or QB change.
Still the same GM.
And no, regular season wins are not success stories.

A division round ceiling is not change.
It's the same as it ever was.
It’s only been about 8ish years of good drafting and 4ish of McCarthy. To me that’s just not a big enough sample size to say “oh same old team”. We lost to arguably the best roster and coaching staffs in football (Shanahan plus Saleh and Ryans who are now both HC’s). The only other proven contender in the conference is Philly and as a divisional opponent we play them well.

Regardless of if we’ve broken through, the chances skyrocket when you run a team like we do now as opposed to the mid-2000’s. Consistent playoff appearances are the best way to move towards breaking the ceiling, and that’s where we now are.
 

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Let me get this straight, the fan base is so weak minded that they believe everything they hear and decide to take their own stance on it??! hmmm

we have to make up special threads and post to talk about Jerry even though this is just who he is and it's not affecting the team on a whole, at all. this is just fans being fans,

either they hate Jerry, some don't like Jerry, some like Jerry,

so now they blame Jerry for everything and again they have such a weak feeble minds, they're so easily influenced by a few quotes it isn't anything but a few quotes.. I say it doesn't matter, what matters is game one we have the best team on the field that we possibly can put on the field and the fans can debate football, can we stop the nonsense about $$, contracts and quotes.....

It seems like if it wasn't for Jerry, fans but they have nothing else to talk about... they already make stuff up, they all know the future, they're all better gms and better talent evaluators then real pro staffs Jerry assembled, they know everything.. they have a better idea how the draft should be and now they're trying to tell the owner he's not allowed to say what's on his mind as if it can hurt the IT is not hurting the team....

#1 Martin started THE PUBLIC debates on his issues jerry spoke about it..hes actually correct, simply discussing some changes to the offense that might make it tailored for dak and the wrs is big deal, when did honesty become big deal?

Once you let Kellen Moore go and a bunch of the offensive staff it was obvious the questions and the answers were going to be coming about why they did it it wasn't going to be hidden it wasn't going to be a secret, nothing in today's sports are a secret.. it's 24 hours a day seven days a week 365 days of social media saturation especially when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys and there's no getting around it , they're sticking microphones in people's faces and that's the answer is you're going to get...
You may want to relax a little bit and chill with the insults. It’s a discussion forum. If my opinion differs from yours that doesn’t mean I’m “feeble minded “, it just means I have a different take on the subject. No need to be aggressive or condescending.
 

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It’s only been about 8ish years of good drafting and 4ish of McCarthy. To me that’s just not a big enough sample size to say “oh same old team”. We lost to arguably the best roster and coaching staffs in football (Shanahan plus Saleh and Ryans who are now both HC’s). The only other proven contender in the conference is Philly and as a divisional opponent we play them well.

Regardless of if we’ve broken through, the chances skyrocket when you run a team like we do now as opposed to the mid-2000’s. Consistent playoff appearances are the best way to move towards breaking the ceiling, and that’s where we now are.
While you make a strong case for recent improvement which I can respect, I still have a hard time getting past how the season ends.

I am much more doubtful of this HC/QB duo leading the team to 3 or 4 consecutive postseason wins than you until they prove it once and for all. I will remain in a skeptical wait and see stance until proven otherwise.

But again, I can respect your take as well no problem.

jmo
 

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That's the beauty of it.
Moving Dak around makes life easier on the OL, creates time, separation, and better vision for Dak. Don't even get me started on cut back lanes for Pollard and Deuce!

The minute Linehan put Dak in the pocket, little warts began to show.
Not sure what your talking about here
 

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"QB friendly" is an absolutely lame/stupid way to put it. You can tell he's not a football man just by fooforraw such as this.
 

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I think it goes without saying your offense should be QB friendly or else what are you doing as an organization. Jerry just be saying stuff to hear himself talk.
Hes just saying we have more talent and a better scheme than last year.
 

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While you make a strong case for recent improvement which I can respect, I still have a hard time getting past how the season ends.

I am much more doubtful of this HC/QB duo leading the team to 3 or 4 consecutive postseason wins than you until they prove it once and for all. I will remain in a skeptical wait and see stance until proven otherwise.

But again, I can respect your take as well no problem.

jmo
Totally get your take man it’s reasonable. I’ll end my side if it by throwing in what I said to the other poster I was discussing this about I regard to the last two playoff losses.

It sucks that it was the niners twice, but again they are a great organization and roster. And in 2021 we got pushed around. The FO spent the offseason addressing toughness and we were much much better matched in 2022. That’s something previous iterations of the team would never do. We just drafted NT in round 1 lol.

I would love to get over the Niner hump, but to me if we avoid them in the playoffs we walk in. No other team has that combination of suffocating defense, genius offensive schematics, and elite players all over.


I do think we just kinda ran into a better team and organization the last two years. What gives me hope is we looked far better matched last year physically. To me that indicates a shift from the same old team we’ve been. Drafting a NT round 1 is another sign.

Appreciate the convo though!
 

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Seeing all the headlines this week with Jerry once again talking (when he shouldn’t of course) about the new “Dak friendly offense” made me look back on how often he has said almost the same thing over the years.

Before I say anything else, let me make clear I’m not anti-Dak at all. He’s definitely good enough to win with. And I want this “new” offense to succeed mightily. But JJ talking about it for hype doesn’t help this team at all.

And…how many times is Jerry going to use the term “______ friendly offense”? Let us count the times.
My point is this: Like all Cowboys fans, I want to win and win now. I want this offense to be prolific. There’s a decent chance it will. But the last thing this team, this QB and this culture needs is a bunch of hype from the owner/GM who oversells and under-delivers every year. Wouldn’t it be nice for once to undersell and over-deliver?

Just my wishful opinion. I expect this team to do well this year- in spite of the 80 year old playing football big shot.
Don't be talking bad about our head football man!
Look at all his qualifications for the job!
 

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He’s been bad this week. First he says we can’t redo Martin cuz we have to pay Micah. I don’t like how he singled out Micah by name. I don’t like him singling out Dak by saying this will be a “Dak friendly offense”. So if Martin doesn’t report to camp Jerry singled out Micah, if our offense doesn’t do well Jerry singled out Dak. How is singling out players going to help team chemistry and organization culture? It’s like he breeds conflict and divisiveness within the team on purpose to meet his attention needs. I said this in another thread but amateur move by an amateur GM.

Sometimes I wonder if we as fans are so divided over players like Dak, Romo, and others because Jerry polarizes the players and then fans take a side. Jerry does it for attention and to keep the team relevant and we as fans argue and Jerry cashes the checks. Who knows, the one thing I know for sure is Jerry is the sole reason for our 27 years of disappointment. Many have come and gone but Jerry remains and our record reflects that.
:hammer: :clap:
 

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Jerry is real easy to figure. When he gives nebulous generalizations like "Dak friendly" ignore it. When he gives specific like "Schoonmaker is expected to return by the end of the week" then pay attention.

IOW, he might mislead witht he generalizations but he does not lie about specifics.

When talking about the offense he specifically talked about the width of pass pro sets, using RB for hot routes, less optional routes, other specific changes.

What really doesn't help is whinging about the generalities and completely ignoring the specifics.
 

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"QB friendly" is the lame man's way of saying you need to build the O around your QB's skillset.

And all QBs need that. The sad part is that means we didn't do this before. Which is sad beyond sad.
 

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"QB friendly" is the lame man's way of saying you need to build the O around your QB's skillset.

And all QBs need that. The sad part is that means we didn't do this before. Which is sad beyond sad.
We did try to do this before with Romo. Plenty of examples of "Romo Friendly" google searches. It didn't work. It will never work because it is settling for lesser. Nobody ever needs to talk about "Brady friendly". or "Mahomes friendly".

I never heard the term "Montana friendly" come from Bill Walsh, nor did I ever hear Jimmy say "Aikman friendly". You get a guy who gets the job done, or you keep looking till you find him. That is the simplest, most time proven strategy.
 

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We did try to do this before with Romo. Plenty of examples of "Romo Friendly" google searches. It didn't work. It will never work because it is settling for lesser. Nobody ever needs to talk about "Brady friendly". or "Mahomes friendly".

I never heard the term "Montana friendly" come from Bill Walsh, nor did I ever hear Jimmy say "Aikman friendly". You get a guy who gets the job done, or you keep looking till you find him. That is the simplest, most time proven strategy.
Great post.
 

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Seeing all the headlines this week with Jerry once again talking (when he shouldn’t of course) about the new “Dak friendly offense” made me look back on how often he has said almost the same thing over the years.

Before I say anything else, let me make clear I’m not anti-Dak at all. He’s definitely good enough to win with. And I want this “new” offense to succeed mightily. But JJ talking about it for hype doesn’t help this team at all.

And…how many times is Jerry going to use the term “______ friendly offense”? Let us count the times.
My point is this: Like all Cowboys fans, I want to win and win now. I want this offense to be prolific. There’s a decent chance it will. But the last thing this team, this QB and this culture needs is a bunch of hype from the owner/GM who oversells and under-delivers every year. Wouldn’t it be nice for once to undersell and over-deliver?

Just my wishful opinion. I expect this team to do well this year- in spite of the 80 year old playing football big shot.
It’s a stupid phrase that probably irks QBs across the league because fans take it as pandering to a poor QB. You cannot win with just a QB. When a team improves its defense and special teams to be more balanced, and when a team solidifies the OL or brings in better or speedier weapons, and when the OC gives the QB more control and input into plays he likes and game planning, ISN‘T that being more QB friendly? Do you think maybe the offense will be more receiver friendly? They all are raving about it. Will it be more defense friendly by controlling the ball and not giving the opposition as many short fields? Are the new blocking schemes OL friendly? It’s just a stupid phrase that Jerry should keep out of his mouth.

Everyone is talking about what Baltimore did in the off-season for Lamar Jackson. Can’t we say the offense is now more Lamar friendly? The stupidity around sports is so irritating sometimes.
 

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"QB friendly" sounds like something a head coach who happens to be the father of the QB would say for his middle school-aged son.

Jerry says it like a child who just learned a new word. Think about it, Skeletor...what offensive system is meant to be QB unfriendly?
 
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