They’re not getting special treatment—in fact, they’re under a microscope, often judged from afar by people who don’t even know them.In every part of life, the rich and famous get special treatment
in every sport the stars get the same
Nope, that’s not a weak point. A weak point is being myopic and acting like the Cowboys are the only team with players who get arrested. The real issue is that accountability isn’t happening across the league—if you’re vital to the team, you’re not getting cut. The so-called “thieves” are brought up because they’ve had more problems in the last five years than the Cowboys, but it doesn’t get as much attention since it’s not the Cowboys, even though it’s the same situation. It was the same with Jimmy Johnson, the same with Tom Landry—that old false narrative didn’t exist until they were forced to cut a player. This happened before Jerry Jones, and it will happen after him. It happens throughout the NFL, in all sports, and in regular life at roughly the same rate—except those people aren’t under a microscope, being judged by strangers behind a screen and declared guilty in the court of public opinion just because someone says so.You're point is that other teams have the same issue..really? Weak counter..
There's no defense to losing a player who would/could contribute to the team's success as a result of criminal activity. After almost 31 years of nothing, we're not a good comparison to the Chiefs. We need all hands on deck.
There isn't and there's only been felony charges on about seven total Cowboys players in the history since 1960 Not all of them were convicted of that That's it and yes there were some with Tom injury there were some with Jimmy Johnson and there's some all over the league And some of these players are talking about were arrested after they left the Cowboys when they were no longer part of the Cowboys yet they're being counted as a Cowboys player because they used to play for us and it's not cool to mention their teams they played for before or after.I'm not aware of a so many "felony arrest" on the roster. There have been sure.
The sharks are out, circling, and acting like the Cowboys are the only team that doesn’t hold star players accountable. In reality, this is part of the league and professional sports, and the only reason it’s talked about more is because it’s the Cowboys. Players have acted like Jalen Carter, and next up could be Ruben A, but there was also Big Ben and others like Ray Lewis. Before they even enter the league, teams decide they’re fine with it as long as the player helps them win. That’s not seen as a culture problem—it’s an accepted practice because people from all walks of life have issues. It’s just magnified for professional athletes and entertainers under the microscope. The truth is, if something like this happened to me, no one would know unless I chose to share it, and I wouldn’t be judged as if no one was holding me accountable. In society, the same percentage of citizens get arrested for similar things, and that’s where players come from, so naturally the same incidents happen. The difference is these cases aren’t discussed when it’s regular people. The irony is that social media, the internet, TMZ, and cell phones have blown things up—people are judged before they even have a court date, and strangers online declare them guilty in the court of public opinion, thinking it’s somehow cool to talk behind the backs of people they’ve never met.Many other teams have had more players arrested lately than Dallas has had.
Are you saying Dallas gets players arrested all the time. Bell is the most recent for a far more serious address than any player for quite some time.
Unless you count a speeding ticket. Which some do hold against a player.
Some say the Eagles should have their Super Bowl taken away because they brought Jalen Carter into the league, even though he was already considered a red flag with prior charges. It’s similar to situations with teams like Pittsburgh that had players such as Plaxico Burress, Ben Roethlisberger, and Antonio Brown. The whole league deals with this at about the same rate—superstars aren’t held accountable as long as they’re not in prison, and they’ll play unless the league suspends them. Kansas City is facing this now, with more recent arrests than the Cowboys. Jalen Carter isn’t on the Eagles’ current list because his car accident issues happened in college before he was drafted. The truth is, lower-profile players often get cut as examples, but if you’re a superstar, you’ll stay on the team as long as the league allows it, and if there’s no suspension, you’ll keep playing—this is the case across all teams.And we are at 31 and counting. STRAIGHT THROUGH TILL NOW.
try and spin that, why don't you?
So those players for other teams as well before and after Cowboys so you'd list them as the same problem that's hypocrisy, it is,Jerry actively seeks out these types of players because they are cheap and they might hit big on them. Classic example, Greg Hardy.
P.S. a few others
Dez Bryant
Pac Man Jones
Dimitrius Underwood
Rolando McClain
Charles Haley
First of all, no statements should be made about this because it’s really not his concern unless something serious has happened—like someone being killed or losing a limb—where a team statement would be necessary. In my opinion, you don’t make statements in this case if we’re talking about Bell, because the court process hasn’t played out yet. Being accused or arrested doesn’t make someone guilty. We need to wait for the conclusion, just like Lee does—they don’t investigate until after the court process is complete. Once it’s resolved, it can be discussed if needed.if they are high jersey sellers, he gets involved and makes statements, otherwise he doesn't care...he likes negative publicity as well.
I dont care about their personal lives and how they live to make it better or screw it up. Its their choice...First of all, no statements should be made about this because it’s really not his concern unless something serious has happened—like someone being killed or losing a limb—where a team statement would be necessary. In my opinion, you don’t make statements in this case if we’re talking about Bell, because the court process hasn’t played out yet. Being accused or arrested doesn’t make someone guilty. We need to wait for the conclusion, just like Lee does—they don’t investigate until after the court process is complete. Once it’s resolved, it can be discussed if needed.
Fans often feel entitled to answers, but it’s really none of our business in the first place. People shouldn’t be blasted on social media, judged, and discussed in the court of public opinion before anyone knows the real facts, the full story, or the outcome. Maybe some can understand that, but most of us don’t like having conversations about unresolved situations when we don’t have enough facts.
To all self-entitled fans, you really need to find another hobby. I don’t care if it’s your favorite actor, actress, musician, or athlete—it’s none of our business what’s going on in their personal lives. Talking about Prescott, his fiancée, and their breakup is nonsense. I feel bad that some fans think they have a right to discuss someone’s private matters or expect Jerry Jones or the team to explain anything. You have no right to ask, nor should it happen. These players deserve more privacy, but they don’t get it, and that’s why we’re even talking about it now. Most regular people wouldn’t have their minor mistakes splashed across the news—it’s not newsworthy. Players come from the same society as everyone else, with the same percentage of problems, so of course some aren’t perfect and will make mistakes. That doesn’t mean they should be judged by people who think they know it all and demand explanations from owners. It’s ridiculous and unnecessary. It’s none of our business, but we keep making it that way.
If you don't like this and think I'm off base, take a look in the mirror. We don't get involved in your business, and we don't know most members here, their backgrounds, or whether they've ever been arrested or in trouble. I bet it wouldn't feel great to be under a microscope and judged the way you're judging this man right now, like you're judging Jerry for things that happen all around the league at about the same rate. That's no different from how a Cowboy with accountability issues is treated in any other sports league or how players on other NFL teams are treated. This is simply business as usual.
We got Bain? Nice. I’m in.This isn’t just a Cowboys thing, it’s a life thing. Players are human, aren’t they? Some get into more trouble than others, right? But does that mean they shouldn’t have a job? Take the Eagles’ Jalen Carter—didn’t he face similar or even worse issues than Ruben Bain does now? Yet there’s this constant need to judge players. The Cowboys happened to pick up Ruben, and people are quick to criticize them, but no one seems to say the Eagles should cut Jalen Carter for his past. He had a similar, if not worse, incident and still became a big part of their team, with hardly any judgment.
I found 56 pages of records showing NFL players arrested since 2000, which likely amounts to at least 700 players across all teams, many of whom still have jobs in the league. So maybe the focus on what Jerry allows is misplaced—it seems more like a league-wide standard. Just look at Kansas City over the past five years with all their issues; did they cut anyone for getting into trouble? Not really. If a player’s good, he’s going to keep his job.
Did Plaxico Burris even play for the Cowboys? He went to prison, came back, and immediately got another NFL job. If you’re talented enough, you’ll find work, just like anywhere else in America. Even people with arrests, prison time, or records can still be employable. This isn’t just a Cowboys issue—it’s been happening across all teams for as long as I can remember. Are we really going to act like Tom Landry didn’t allow this? Superstar players have had worse charges or arrests, whether they served time or not. Landry let players party, do drugs, and still play, and so did Jimmy Johnson. Everyone thought they had control of their teams, but now it’s suddenly all about Jerry because we need another Jerry narrative. People forget this is a league-wide thing, it happens in all sports, and in America, people often get second and even third chances after being arrested. You can still be employable.
If you go to jail or prison, you can still be employable.
Somehow you think this is just a Cowboys thing, which I find both hilarious and a bit insane, especially since you see it as narrowly focused on Jerry when it should be about the league as a whole.
It’s not a big deal, remember that Hall of Fame linebacker, Lewis? He never played for the Cowboys, but there was that whole situation where he was accused of covering up a murder. No, he didn’t kill anyone, but is that really much different from getting pulled over with weed in your car? I’d bet the league average for players arrested or given second chances is about the same as the Cowboys’ average. It’s not a big deal—are we really saying there should be zero tolerance for anyone who’s ever been arrested or done time? We have this debate every time one of our players is allegedly charged with something but not convicted, and even when they are, I have to remind people this happens all over the NFL, the NBA, and in mainstream America. It is what it is.
But I bet you're going to try to say it's a culture thing and that's why we're losing yeah, I'm going to keep reminding you that this is happening on all teams at some point and most of them handle it the same way They let the courts figure it out not the court of public opinion and most of the time if you're a great player they're not cutting you That's not how it works..
We get your point bud….Jerry and his kid are infallible and immune to any type of criticism….largely because there’s been a couple of teams worse over the years.Nope, that’s not a weak point. A weak point is being myopic and acting like the Cowboys are the only team with players who get arrested. The real issue is that accountability isn’t happening across the league—if you’re vital to the team, you’re not getting cut. The so-called “thieves” are brought up because they’ve had more problems in the last five years than the Cowboys, but it doesn’t get as much attention since it’s not the Cowboys, even though it’s the same situation. It was the same with Jimmy Johnson, the same with Tom Landry—that old false narrative didn’t exist until they were forced to cut a player. This happened before Jerry Jones, and it will happen after him. It happens throughout the NFL, in all sports, and in regular life at roughly the same rate—except those people aren’t under a microscope, being judged by strangers behind a screen and declared guilty in the court of public opinion just because someone says so.
People like me think you have a valid point that this isn’t just a Dallas Cowboys issue—it’s not about accountability here, it’s just business as usual for most teams in all leagues. Unless you’re low-hanging fruit, you’ll keep your job. Your argument is weak because you’re only using the Cowboys, one of 32 NFL teams, and the NFL, one of four major sports. Do your research, come back with a stronger case, and show how the Cowboys are any different in terms of accountability—not just Jerry Jones, but Tom Landry too. We could name plenty of other big-time coaches or owners from supposedly better cultures who allowed the same things to happen until they couldn’t anymore. So take that weak argument somewhere else—your small sample size and lack of data don’t prove that the Cowboys allow it more than other teams or leagues, because you’d be very wrong.
That's not what I said bud OK bud ,We get your point bud….Jerry and his kid are infallible and immune to any type of criticism….largely because there’s been a couple of teams worse over the years.
We get it. Don’t at all agree, but we get it.
If you do not share the same frustrations that most of us around here do, then good for you. Seriously, I mean that. This team is run by people that aren’t qualified, and the results certainly speak to that, but if you’re happy, good for you. Honestly. Makes me wonder exactly how giddy you might be if this team was actually run correctly by competent people…..not ones who fancy themselves as ‘football people’ and bought their way into power. I surely didn’t account for that at seven years old, but here I am.
The laundry means more to me than Jerry and his idiot kid and his massive ego. Meanwhile Jimmy Johnson sits back and grins knowing full well that Jerry can’t even approach what he did in Dallas.
Yes there was already rumors because of his short arms he was going to drop I mean guys like TJ Watt dropped Others even drop further than that It'd be really nice if he's there at 12 or 20, at 20 I'd be more comfortable ,but this story came out about his car accident and now it might have dropped him further..We got Bain? Nice. I’m in.
Sorry for addressing you as such. Not even a term I often use.That's not what I said bud OK bud ,
BUD,
you can interpret whatever you think that I meant because you want to keep on the Hate train it's not a few teams all 32 teams have had problems since the year 2000 there's 56 pages of arrests around the NFL and most teams don't hold any of these players accountable It is what it is it's part of doing business when you have infallible humans so you can criticize them all you want but I can criticize your criticisms and you need to just take it according to you You're allowed to judge them even though they're not reading this so I'm judging you for judging them because they're no different than anyone else..
That's the problem here they don't control players off the field and if the other 31 teams are handling it in a similar manner, then there's nothing to see here, nothing to say, and there's no need for this thread about how the Cowboys don't hold players accountable and that must be why 31 years of Super Bowl drought that must be the reason!
no it's not, because the other 31 teams have similar issues It's not all at the same time, but they have all been in the same situation and not cut the damn player if you don't get that I can't help you..
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so you want to get on board you're happy that Mr Up in the Hood started this post so you can have a way to vent and be angry and just get it all out just anti Jerry we're hating on Jerry, oh wait they don't even read this, so it is for not.
Wasted energy...
Tom Landry allowed similar things to happen, but back then there was no social media, TMZ, or cell phones. He got away with letting his players slide as long as they performed on the field, no different from anyone else—don’t pretend otherwise. We know about some incidents, but there were plenty more where players were treated like superstars and entertainers, able to get away with a lot because it could be swept under the rug without anyone finding out.
Nowadays, that rug is see-through.
Everything you do, hour by hour, can be exposed, and those handling things behind the scenes are under a microscope. Don’t think this stuff didn’t happen in the pa,
aside from the few cases we know about, it’s just far more transparent now, which is why we talk about it. Ask Bill Parcells—he didn’t tolerate nonsense, yet his team was full of players using drugs and getting into trouble off the field. Lawrence Taylor was never disciplined or cut from the Giants. This lack of accountability has been going on for decades; we just talk about it more now because of social media and the internet.
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you posts are so blind its ridiculous as regards realityThey’re not getting special treatment—in fact, they’re under a microscope, often judged from afar by people who don’t even know them.
That’s the downside of playing for the Cowboys or being in professional sports; you’re constantly followed by cell phones, TMZ, and real-time reports of anything that may or may not be happening. If this happened to you, the police would treat you the same way, but you wouldn’t face the same public judgment before ever being convicted.
Police, lawyers, and DAs don’t give superstars special treatment because they’re also heavily scrutinized and can’t hide anything anymore. In this era, getting arrested—innocent or not—means you’ll be judged by the court of public opinion and seen as guilty no matter what. This isn’t just one team; all leagues have a similar percentage of players who’ve been arrested. And when people talk about accountability, it’s often meaningless. Most teams won’t cut a player, especially if they’re vital to the team. Just like in regular life, people who get arrested can still find jobs afterward, even after serving time, depending on what they did—they get second and third chances like anyone else.
condone it, he drives the bus...Lately there seems to be a trend of players being arrested. Truthfully, we've always been a team known for renegade players over the years. That said, does Jerry condone or condemn these actions. Maybe Jerry needs to start a felony Ring of HOF or have a fan participation game of criminal bingo. I feel that Jerry doesn't hold these guys accountable and it not only sets a bad example, it also hurts the team. Am I wrong?
It’s not blind, it’s just business as usual, so normal operating procedures apply. Almost every team in the NFL, and in all major sports, has experienced and handled situations like this in the same way, so it’s normalized. It is what it is, and it’s really none of your business to begin with. The only reason we’re reading about it is because they’re stars and in the spotlight. If it happened to you, I wouldn’t know your name or background, and if you got arrested tomorrow for the same thing, no one would judge you online because no one knows who you are.you posts are so blind its ridiculous as regards reality
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking of posting.Lately?
Yep, I remember just a few years back it was Dallas AND Washington AND Detroit that hadn't been to an NFC Championship game since 1996...Sorry for addressing you as such. Not even a term I often use.
Simple, we are teammates that don’t agree on certain things. Is what it is.
But honestly, it’s gotta be tough defending Jerry and his act perpetually. The results aren’t there sir.
But hey, we are “talking,” and that’s all Jerry wants. It ain’t about football for him, I promise. He realized long ago that he couldn’t realistically pull this off, but he bought himself into a position to keep buying lottery tickets. Remember when he claimed that not having a GM as a middle man was as some sort of advantage? Great stuff. Tip of the iceberg. These two aren’t qualified to o build a winning NFL roster and that’s been more than proven.
Hate to break it to you but your claim the rich and famous do not get breaks the average joe does not is simply a joke.It’s not blind, it’s just business as usual, so normal operating procedures apply. Almost every team in the NFL, and in all major sports, has experienced and handled situations like this in the same way, so it’s normalized. It is what it is, and it’s really none of your business to begin with. The only reason we’re reading about it is because they’re stars and in the spotlight. If it happened to you, I wouldn’t know your name or background, and if you got arrested tomorrow for the same thing, no one would judge you online because no one knows who you are.
Most likely, your employer wouldn’t even find out, because most of the time you’re arraigned and released the same day. You’d call in to work, get it resolved, and it would never become public. You could even get deferred and it would be as if it never happened. That’s how it works in real life, and the same goes for sports, entertainment, music, and so on.
And don't say this is not true and there are people who have gotten out of jail or prison and they get a second chance, and they get to keep their jobs or they find another job...FACTS are not being blind!!
The only reason we’re talking about it now is because they’re in the news—unlike regular people who go through the same things without being judged as harshly, simply because they’re not playing for the Cowboys, the NFL, or another major sports team.
You don’t seem to understand that I can’t help you. I’m not condoning it, nor am I blind to it—I’m saying this happens regularly across the league. It’s not every team every year, but it cycles through. Like I said, I found 56 pages, about 700 arrests since 2000. In over 25 years, every team has experienced it and handled it pretty much the same way.
Hate to break it to you, but you’re overlooking the fact that it happens more often than you think. It occurs in society at a regular rate, and that percentage doesn’t change just because players come from that same society. People make mistakes, and they’re dealt with in the same way. The only difference is you get to sit back, judge from afar, and be a hypocrite simply because they chose a career that puts them in the spotlight.
