Jerry and Stephen are the reason we are eliminated

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I legitimacy think the Giants would have played a more competitive game Sunday. How can this be explained???? You're a 2 seed playing at home. Losing is one thing, but that was a legitimate 30 point blowout loss to a 7 seed. I dont care what the final score says.

And that goes back to the FO. There are many flaws that they have, and one of them is that they refuse to actually do something about a glaring issue.
 

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No. 9 probowlers and they don't suit up. Dak, McCarthy Quinn are the problem don't be a gen zr
 

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I get it that there are a multitude of problems that need to be solved to fix this team. But you all give no solutions, we all know this dog has fleas, ringworms, diarrhea, mange and possibly rabies. Do we shoot him or try to fix him? The OP is just saying we gotta start somewhere...and the first step is hiring a competent HC and not castrate him, as well as a tough nosed, disciplinarian of a DC... At this point, Jerry sitting on his arse in his yacht is like sticking his head in the sand and not wanting to deal with anything. He needs to fire his HC and begin the interviewing process with the top HC available now. Not the bottom of the barrel YES men he normally looks for and have led to this crap. Hire your DC after DQ gets his arse out of town. Then you begin dealing with weeding out the players you need and don't need to accumulate talent that will reflect the kind of team you want to build. If you say that Jerry would never do that......then we've come full circle, and the OP is right....Jerry and Stephen are the problem.
Jerry is dragging this out! Any possible young offensive mind is going to be hired and there will be nothing but retreads. Dallas should hire one of the Shanahan disciples, they seem to know offense and how to game plan and how to beat the Cowboys. If you can't beat em join em!
 

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Jerry is dragging this out! Any possible young offensive mind is going to be hired and there will be nothing but retreads. Dallas should hire one of the Shanahan disciples, they seem to know offense and how to game plan and how to beat the Cowboys. If you can't beat em join em!

Exactly. I'd see if we can get their OC or QB coach, if we're not going to get Harbaugh or Vrabel. See if we can get one of them to come here. Then, let them build their staff accordingly.
 

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One thing I blame Jerry for is not adding needed positions during free agency. Having a 205 pound safety playing the LB spot makes zero sense. Plus, knowing Pollard was not running well, we didn't add a much needed down hill back. Also, with the line being hurt, other than a retread, who did they pick up? The same goes for a run stopper. Knowing they didn't have a run stopper was evident against the 49ers.
 

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......nor OL saying "look out", gashed DL, DBs looking at each other, or LBs getting pancaked,
Yeah, I'm with you. It's everybody's fault but dak. I wish we had Cedrick Wilson back to throw the ball though.
 

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One thing I blame Jerry for is not adding needed positions during free agency. Having a 205 pound safety playing the LB spot makes zero sense. Plus, knowing Pollard was not running well, we didn't add a much needed down hill back. Also, with the line being hurt, other than a retread, who did they pick up? The same goes for a run stopper. Knowing they didn't have a run stopper was evident against the 49ers.
Which is why I'm annoyed at Jerry. These were glaring issues that we could all see except him. I'm not saying he needed to get an all pro. He just needed to get something to be a bandaid for the clearly glaring issues.
 

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Jerry and Stephen are the reason we are eliminated. No, not for the the reasons you think, although they are valid and can be included. No, where the real problem is that their attitude for the team in the offseason and during the trade deadline is the problem. Their "we like our guys" attitude will not win us a SB. You cannot win a SB on draft picks alone. You must have quality free agents being brought in.

Think about the weaknesses that we knew going into this season that we had. We had questions about our running game and questions about our LB group. You know who didn't have those questions? Jerry and Stephen! How do I know this? Because they didn't use free agency to fix these glaring issues, and, wouldn't you know it, when we played teams that require you to run it on them and stop the run, we got blown out. Safeties are not linebackers! Linebackers are not safeties! Get that through your thick heads, Stephen and Jerry!

Also, I'm irritated because, when you look at the current contenders, they didn't just sit back and like their guys. When they saw a problem, they found ways to fix it. They were proactive. The Cowboys may as well have kept their HQ at Valley Ranch in Irving if they're going to be this inactive in free agency. There were players to be had. Yet, when free agency started, Jerry just wanted to be in his yacht. If he wants to be on his yacht so badly, then why not sell the team, move to Key West, and be yacht brothers with Jimmy? We need FO people who are proactive when they see a problem that literally everyone is aware that we have.
Yeah, those two interceptions that Jerry threw and Stephen's piss poor defensive gameplan did us in!
Oh Brother!!! :facepalm:
 

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Yeah, those two interceptions that Jerry threw and Stephen's piss poor defensive gameplan did us in!
Oh Brother!!! :facepalm:

Again, I'm not saying that Dak and the coaches are blameless. I'm pointing out that there were glaring issues, one of which I wrote about after the 49ers game, that were clear that we're not addressed. Our inability to stop the run did us in against the Cardinals, 49ers, and Bills before we even got to the playoff game. It was clear that we didn't have enough physicality to stop it. What we need is to be more physical. Yes, the interceptions were bad (although, the first one should have been PI on Green Bay). However, part of the problem with the game plan on defence was that we couldn't stop the run. We need to fix that to have any chance next year.
 

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Again, I'm not saying that Dak and the coaches are blameless. I'm pointing out that there were glaring issues, one of which I wrote about after the 49ers game, that were clear that we're not addressed. Our inability to stop the run did us in against the Cardinals, 49ers, and Bills before we even got to the playoff game. It was clear that we didn't have enough physicality to stop it. What we need is to be more physical. Yes, the interceptions were bad (although, the first one should have been PI on Green Bay). However, part of the problem with the game plan on defence was that we couldn't stop the run. We need to fix that to have any chance next year.
The problem is that we had 6 secondary players on the field 55 times and still left receivers wide open. Quinn ran zone when we've been a man defense all year.
 

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The problem is that we had 6 secondary players on the field 55 times and still left receivers wide open. Quinn ran zone when we've been a man defense all year.

I agree, and I don't like his zone scheme. If Seattle wants him, they can have him. However, that also doesn't change the fact that we had safeties playing linebacker. Bell is not a linebacker. He is a safety. We needed linebackers, but, because of the FO, we didn't have much depth when LVE went down. We also didn't run the ball nearly as well as we should have. Pollard isn't Zeke. We needed a better and more physical run game. Pollard is great if you're trying to get the ball to him on the outside. However, you need a little thunder to go with his lightning. It's why I was pleading for DH at the trade deadline. It's things like that that get me annoyed at the FO. We have issues that are glaring, and they seldom fix it until it's too late. When you look at the 49ers and Ravens, they don't just say they like their guys. They made moves to make sure they had more. We need to make sure we have more. If nothing else, more can be an insurance policy against injury. This is what I was saying in my OP. Maybe I could've said they're a big part of the problem, but that's what I was trying to say.
 

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I get that we can't have all pros everywhere. However, we could try to find some players on 1 year deals. I'd have loved for us to have gotten Suh on a 1 year deal. We could have, during the offseason, tried to find a linebacker. When we had a chance at Bobby Wagner, we should have gotten him knowing that LVE was going to get hurt at some point. We draft great. I'm not disputing that. I'm just pointing out that there is more that they can do. As for CeeDee and Micah, I'm leaning towards them being traded for first round picks.
OMG! Suh is old, well past it, and Hankins is better. Did you see Suh play lately. The dude can't move. You do realize that we are over the cap and have been for some time.
 

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OMG! Suh is old, well past it, and Hankins is better. Did you see Suh play lately. The dude can't move. You do realize that we are over the cap and have been for some time.

Isn't the cap flexible? And if we're that badly over the cap, then maybe they need to consider trading players to rebuild. I mean, how can we be over the cap after 5 years of not much in the way of activity? I'm just frustrated because it feels like the FO isn't doing enough to put this team in a position to succeed. The whole organisation isnt doing enough.
 
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