Jerry has really surprised me

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I have to say, I never saw this coming. I've been right on Jerry since the Jimmy split but I never forecasted what we have now. An indolent front office.

I never thought the issues would be lack of trying. Lack of risking. Lack of going for it. I just thought those efforts would be filled with complete incompetence. We'd be in eternal cap hell not because we were afraid to spend but because of overspending every year. Because of all those going for it moves blowing up in our face. Which would lead to an assembly line of short term head coaches, one after the other, and not you get a decade and you get a decade.

This goes against everything he's been about his entire life and you wouldn't expect in his last years that he'd get less impatient.

Where we are right now doesn't surprise me. How we've gotten here in recent years has.

This version of Jerry Jones I never saw coming.
I miss the ol' wildcat Jerry. He was incompetent, but at least he tried and kept the team interesting.

This scarty-cat Jerry is boring.
 

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Seemed to me that the kid gained much more influence after he talked Jerry out of Manziel and taking a HOF OL instead.

They’ve been ultra conservative to a fault since around that time. Remember the kid adamantly didn’t want Sanders, and it’s doubtful they win XXX without him.

It’s scared money. Even when Jerry is gone and a GM is hired, cheapo still holds the checkbook.

I mean come on, 30 years with no NFCCG, 13 years with no top end FA? Several HOF players since. No one is putting that all together and realizing the approach doesn’t work?
And if they hadn't released all those players to sign Sanders they may have won 1-2 more.
 

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Jerry has realized his odds of experiencing another championship are slim. And the pursuit of it was making his last few years miserable. He’s stopped trying. At this point, for him, it’s all about family and legacy. His spiel about “working with family” in Landman is mostly true right now.

Unfortunately, it ceases to be heartwarming when you realize it’s all on the backs of people with a fraction of his wealth. People who have to save to buy their kids a jersey at Christmas. He knowingly sells them a substandard product.

It’s sickening, to be honest.
 

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I have to say, I never saw this coming. I've been right on Jerry since the Jimmy split but I never forecasted what we have now. An indolent front office.

I never thought the issues would be lack of trying. Lack of risking. Lack of going for it. I just thought those efforts would be filled with complete incompetence. We'd be in eternal cap hell not because we were afraid to spend but because of overspending every year. Because of all those going for it moves blowing up in our face. Which would lead to an assembly line of short term head coaches, one after the other, and not you get a decade and you get a decade.

This goes against everything he's been about his entire life and you wouldn't expect in his last years that he'd get less impatient.

Where we are right now doesn't surprise me. How we've gotten here in recent years has.

This version of Jerry Jones I never saw coming.
when you're the top in bringing in money, but don't win championships, somehow this equates to a great running organization!!!
 

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Agree completely Risen! I used to love the giving up 1sts for aging WRs or firing a coach to try a new way. Now they are content to try and be the stable team yet they pick people who don’t get the job done and mismanage it all. Give me back the dense wildcatter
roy williams and joey Galloway uhhh lol
 

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I've said the same. We've gone from moves like the Galloway trade that were idiotic but at least well-intentioned, to not even trying. This year was the most predictable I can ever remember -- we all saw in the offseason that we were going to take a step back when we lost all those contributors and didn't even try to replace them.

Either he's just let his cheap son influence him too much, or he's lost his fire and mellowed in his old age, or something else. He did make sure to assert himself with the Lance trade and the Mingo trade and the Zeke re-sign, but none of those cost much money.

If they weren't first in cash flow by a mile and we didn't know Jerry's vast real estate holdings around Frisco and all over DFW had skyrocketed, you'd almost think there might be some kind of financial problems with the other businesses, but I don't see how that could be the case.

Too bad we don't have any decent journalists to tell us what is actually happening within the family.
Natural gas + DFW real estate. Can't think of two things better to invest in the last 20 years. He's fine financially.

There have been some other setbacks - lost out on the World Cup final, lots of deaths close to him the last few years, embarrassing paternity case.

Also, during the Garrett era he had a pet project and players like Witten/Romo that he vacationed w/ and kept him in the loop. It was probably a much more enjoyable era for him than working with Dak (who can be cold to him) and McCarthy (a bit of a clown).

I am scattershooting, but there's a litany of things at play.
 

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Jones family makes more money off oil and gas than the Cowboys....need to remember that.
 

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I have to say, I never saw this coming. I've been right on Jerry since the Jimmy split but I never forecasted what we have now. An indolent front office.

I never thought the issues would be lack of trying. Lack of risking. Lack of going for it. I just thought those efforts would be filled with complete incompetence. We'd be in eternal cap hell not because we were afraid to spend but because of overspending every year. Because of all those going for it moves blowing up in our face. Which would lead to an assembly line of short term head coaches, one after the other, and not you get a decade and you get a decade.

This goes against everything he's been about his entire life and you wouldn't expect in his last years that he'd get less impatient.

Where we are right now doesn't surprise me. How we've gotten here in recent years has.

This version of Jerry Jones I never saw coming.
JJ reminds me of a bitter tired old man with a pocket full of excuses who cannot allow himself to let go of the duties of a real GM in the NFL. His pride won't allow it and it's been dragging this team to the ground for the past 30 plus years. When the NFL allowed owners to buy players to fix their teams, JJ was on top of his game, but when the CAP SPACE era started in 94', that was the beginning of the end for Jerry Jones. He has never figured out how to use the CAP Space to his benefit his team.
 

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I have to say, I never saw this coming. I've been right on Jerry since the Jimmy split but I never forecasted what we have now. An indolent front office.

I never thought the issues would be lack of trying. Lack of risking. Lack of going for it. I just thought those efforts would be filled with complete incompetence. We'd be in eternal cap hell not because we were afraid to spend but because of overspending every year. Because of all those going for it moves blowing up in our face. Which would lead to an assembly line of short term head coaches, one after the other, and not you get a decade and you get a decade.

This goes against everything he's been about his entire life and you wouldn't expect in his last years that he'd get less impatient.

Where we are right now doesn't surprise me. How we've gotten here in recent years has.

This version of Jerry Jones I never saw coming.
Good post. And this version of Jerry is worse than the version we all expected. That’s the disheartening part in all of this.
 

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even if thats the case, winning would bring in a lot more money. AND he'd get the ego boost even if it wasn't his priority. just all around weird.
For that to happen Jerry would have to concede to the fans who have been critical all this time, and calling for him to step down and hire a GM.

Jerry's ego cannot handle making that concession.

Even worse for Jerry is if he did, and it worked. It would mean the fans were right all along, and Jerry literally wasted 30 years for an ego trip.

He certainly couldn't face that.
 

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I think Jerry is defensive bc in his mind he thinks he has done everything he can do to make the team successful. Paid the QB. SB winning coach. Paid CD. Built a new stadium which helps players land endorsements. Built state of the art practice facility.

And he is also pissed bc the QB and coach aren't living up to their salary and resume in the playoffs when it counts. He can't take back the really bad Dak deal or get out from under it. MM is the first change he can make, and I think he will pretty soon.
There are no guarantees in sports. Owners get their money up front. But want guarantees when they have pay out.

As fans we buy tickets. If the product that day sucks....no one is giving us a refund or discount on the way out the stadium that day.

When the networks give the NFL/Owners their money....they don't get a refund if the NFL does not bring the number of eyeballs they anticipated.

We would all like our players to not get injured, or perform up to their contract. We would all like the coaches to never mismanage the clock. That is not how this works. Does Jerry take a pay cut if a player he drafted does not play to his draft position? Does Jerry discount tickets and hot dogs and parking after the Cowboys are eliminated from playoff contention with 6 games left in the season?

Players and coaches....just like the NFL.....have a market value. Either you want to pay or you don't. I can promise you the NFL demands and gets their market value when they are negotiating deals.
 
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