Jerry has to make a Huge Move!

Frozen700

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he has to go after at least 1 big FA or trade......

after our loss and how we got beat, I'm not that confident in the O....its like we have weapons...but only 1 true WR who is explosive...and 1 WR is is still Raw, but explosive

yes i know, we just need to get the line Fixed, get rid of barber n maybe Garret as well......but i feel we need a big splash to get everyone talking, even us as cowboys fan, to make us look even more dangerous then we are...and too have the whole league scared

i think we should really go after Marshall, if we can trade RW11(who i haven't given up on yet, but come on) lets do it, josh has already shown he will settle for a less headache, i mean Cutler for orton? who the heck would have made that at that point?

i say we go after another Threat, either in the draft or trade.....WR or another pass rusher(DE) with our secondary, another pass rusher wouldn't hurt
 

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I imagine TO will be available.

<runs away laughing>
 

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You mean like the Roy Williams trade?

I see no reason to be impatient and risk making another ill-advised move for the sake of simply making a move.

We need to keep building this team through the draft.
 

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I hope you mean the big move is a bowel movement.

We aren't the Commanders. That crap doesn't work.
 

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Hostile;3244004 said:
I hope you mean the big move is a bowel movement.

We aren't the Commanders. That crap doesn't work.

lol....i was just pissed at our O last week
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;3244006 said:
Marvin Harrison

Yeah and lets bring back Tank too and Plaxico when he gets out. Then we will just call Valley the Gun Club.
 

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Terence Newman700;3244008 said:
lol....i was just pissed at our O last week


I am pissed too, but I think as long as our guys try to learn from their mistakes and we get rid of or get help for Garrett (hopefuly the later) we will be good.
 

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utrunner07;3244009 said:
Yeah and lets bring back Tank too and Plaxico when he gets out. Then we will just call Valley the Gun Club.

Now youre talking!

Plax for MB3
Harrison for RW11
Garrett for anybody
Romo and a 1st for Quinn

championship
 

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If anything we need more depth at o-line. I dont think anyone expected Flo to go down and once he did we were really done for.
 

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That kind of thinking is what got us into the RW11 mess.

What we need to do is continue to build through the draft taking productive, high quality players.
 

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I have read some people claiming this is 1991 all over again. Laughable. The 1991 team had serious issues with the pass rush and pass defense and we went out and improved the team with Haley, Darren Woodson and Kevin Smith. And unless some bold moves take place, we will be fortunate to duplicate this year's "success" which honestly was little more than a baby step.

Each season is different and next year's team needs to be different. All of this talk of simply hoping for a few pieces here or there is troubling. We need another shake-up. Progress stoppers were flushed last year (Ellis, Terrell Owens) and we saw the benefits, and honestly one of them (Austin) was by sheer accident. That cannot repeat itself. Players like Barber and Williams need to be challenged as progress stoppers.

What Sunday showed is that we really need more playmakers on both sides of the football.

Felix Jones was the only player on offense who I believe has that dimension. Austin is your number one, but we cannot expect teams to simply ignore him going forward--it is going to get tougher for him and he will probably have a dip in production next season if we march Roy Williams right back out there. Williams is a lost cause as far as I am concerned. I don't even care whose "fault" it is anymore. I don't care if it is his, Romo's, Garrett's, it just does not matter. He is not and apparently cannot become a threat. He's not what we thought and moreover, he is not what we need. I realize Stephen and Jerry are allergic to drafting WRs. But we need to take a shot. The OL is self-evident and has been something anyone with a brain should have seen this past April. In a way, Sunday was excellent because it might have tempered the false sense of security people had over Doug Free. The problems are all across the line and we were fortunate to avoid injuries all season long.

On defense, we need something at safety. I am not sure what, but we just do not have it. You can win games with Sensabaugh, but neither he nor Hamlin is able to make plays. The entire secondary lacks a ballhawk except for Jenkins. I hope that a light goes on for Jason Williams at inside linebacker because we need some more speed. We also need some more help for Ratliff as he disappeared at times and was neutralized by a second year player like John Sullivan.

We have a few "chips" so to speak we could look to trade. Barber and Bennett for starters. I am perfectly fine with going to war with John Phillips and Tashard Choice at this juncture.

We just cannot stand pat and expect things to get easier next season simply because we are going with more of the same. That's the idea I see being preached now and it is not comforting.

We took a baby step this year, but to make another step we need to actually take it and not expect it to be just a side effect of time. It is nice to enjoy the "progress" but I want that Viking game put on a loop as they showed us exactly how far we have to mature. Unfortunately, I do not think anyone in the organization took that thrashing to the level they needed to. It was almost some were pretending it was some sort of anomaly.
 

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The only FA big impact FA I would go after would be a Tackle. As far as I know there are no high end tackles in FA this off-season.

Sad thing is, I don't see a whole lot in the draft that can help the Cowboys at tackle. Maybe Charles Brown out of USC. It's said he has great technique and is very athletic and smooth, but lacks the frame and power. Almost sounds like another Doug Free. If we want a big time running game, we can have a line full of Doug Frees. We need some punch on the line.
 

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nyc;3244033 said:
The only FA big impact FA I would go after would be a Tackle. As far as I know there are no high end tackles in FA this off-season.

Sad thing is, I don't see a whole lot in the draft that can help the Cowboys at tackle. Maybe Charles Brown out of USC. It's said he has great technique and is very athletic and smooth, but lacks the frame and power. Almost sounds like another Doug Free. If we want a big time running game, we can have a line full of Doug Frees. We need some punch on the line.
I would have loaded up on the interior last April.

We were on the right track with targeting Max Unger. That type of versatile player would have been perfect to head into 2010 with a year of experience and conditioning under their belt. Problem is, we saw it coming yet were not aggressive enough in making it happen. We need to have that sense of urgency now in concern to the line. We cannot be sitting here two years from now wondering if our next Doug Free can play. Kosier is in his final year. Colombo looked terrible and slow Sunday. Adams will not or should not last beyond next season. Gurode also looked rather ordinary. Davis is the only player I would feel comfortable as a starter in 2011. The time is now.
 

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Alexander;3244031 said:
I have read some people claiming this is 1991 all over again. Laughable. The 1991 team had serious issues with the pass rush and pass defense and we went out and improved the team with Haley, Darren Woodson and Kevin Smith. And unless some bold moves take place, we will be fortunate to duplicate this year's "success" which honestly was little more than a baby step.

Each season is different and next year's team needs to be different. All of this talk of simply hoping for a few pieces here or there is troubling. We need another shake-up. Progress stoppers were flushed last year (Ellis, Terrell Owens) and we saw the benefits, and honestly one of them (Austin) was by sheer accident. That cannot repeat itself. Players like Barber and Williams need to be challenged as progress stoppers.

What Sunday showed is that we really need more playmakers on both sides of the football.

Felix Jones was the only player on offense who I believe has that dimension. Austin is your number one, but we cannot expect teams to simply ignore him going forward--it is going to get tougher for him and he will probably have a dip in production next season if we march Roy Williams right back out there. Williams is a lost cause as far as I am concerned. I don't even care whose "fault" it is anymore. I don't care if it is his, Romo's, Garrett's, it just does not matter. He is not and apparently cannot become a threat. He's not what we thought and moreover, he is not what we need. I realize Stephen and Jerry are allergic to drafting WRs. But we need to take a shot. The OL is self-evident and has been something anyone with a brain should have seen this past April. In a way, Sunday was excellent because it might have tempered the false sense of security people had over Doug Free. The problems are all across the line and we were fortunate to avoid injuries all season long.

On defense, we need something at safety. I am not sure what, but we just do not have it. You can win games with Sensabaugh, but neither he nor Hamlin is able to make plays. The entire secondary lacks a ballhawk except for Jenkins. I hope that a light goes on for Jason Williams at inside linebacker because we need some more speed. We also need some more help for Ratliff as he disappeared at times and was neutralized by a second year player like John Sullivan.

We have a few "chips" so to speak we could look to trade. Barber and Bennett for starters. I am perfectly fine with going to war with John Phillips and Tashard Choice at this juncture.

We just cannot stand pat and expect things to get easier next season simply because we are going with more of the same. That's the idea I see being preached now and it is not comforting.

We took a baby step this year, but to make another step we need to actually take it and not expect it to be just a side effect of time. It is nice to enjoy the "progress" but I want that Viking game put on a loop as they showed us exactly how far we have to mature. Unfortunately, I do not think anyone in the organization took that thrashing to the level they needed to. It was almost some were pretending it was some sort of anomaly.

The problem w/ the RW11 thing is he aint going anywhere. It needs to stop being suggested b/c its not happening. IMO its up to RW to fix it. Romo has proven himself, RW hasnt.

Im afraid Marty might be too popular to trade but really should if his value is still a 2nd
 
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