Jerry Jones: Deflategate and Ezekiel Elliott situations are different

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Jerry is publicly undermining the central office's position. I just think how badly this has to piss Goodell off.

Love it.

 

[ThreeandOut]

Jerry is publicly undermining the central office's position. I just think how badly this has to piss Goodell off.

Love it.

Just wait until he's doing it in a courtroom.

 

[Scotman]

I don't think (personal opinion) the argument right now is about "due process"...whether it be a constitutional question OR a CBA-related issue. This conversation, based on the recent judge's ruling" is about FAIRNESS as it relates to balanced and transparent conduct of the league FO in the way it reaches decisions and doles out punishment. If you're involved in unfair practices that stack decks and (even worse) suppress evidence, you're gonna get nailed by the courts...no matter how much power your CBA gives you. This is borderline criminal conduct on behalf of the league FO...they tried to hide/suppress key witness testimony (in this case from their LEAD INVESTIGATOR) in order to paint a false picture on the fairness and justice of their final decision. They FOLLOWED the "due process" as outlined by the CBA in terms of the investigation, initial decision and player's appeal...that's not the problem...the problem is they acted in an underhanded and unethical matter (according to a US judge)...and no CBA allows for that.

Is it "borderline" criminal activity? I'm not entirely convinced it wasn't over the line. I think they might actually be guilty of libel with Zeke. They gave him the label of a domestic abuser by suppressing evidence. There is absolutely going to be monetary loss for him because of it. I don't know if that meets the bar for criminal activity or not. But if all of that is true, he has a strong case for libel against him.

 

[DallasInDC]

Question: an attorney buddy of mine, who is familiar with the CBA because he was involved in a lawsuit filed by an ex-Texans player against the team, told me this morning that he thinks the league is ultilmately going to win because "I have seen nothing in the CBA which guarantees due process".

Thoughts?

Question I have...do federal/state labor laws offer protections that would apply to this case as I would assume those laws would supersede the CBA?

 

[Daillest88]

Any updates on the case?

 

[Ghost12]

Question I have...do federal/state labor laws offer protections that would apply to this case as I would assume those laws would supersede the CBA?

Laws will supersede any contract agreement, but there are plenty of federal laws that say "you can ignore laws A, B, C and D in a collectively bargained agreement."

The only laws Elliott can really rely on are those relating to fundamental fairness in arbitration hearings.

 

[cowboys1981]

That to me is where so many so called experts are wrong. No CBA can take away a person's constitutional and the HUMAN RIGHT to be treated fairly which the NFL so clearly did not in this case.

They can't and the 14th Amendment quickly comes to mind. I clearly see a violation of the 14th Amendment.