Jerry Jones: It’s not just optimism, it’s a fact that we’re better

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It's also pretty evident that Callahan still holds influence cause of the Zach Martin pick.

Not necessarily. We targeted 4 players in the 1st round and 3 were taken by 16. We tried to trade the pick but couldn't so we took the last name on our list.
 

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Not necessarily. We targeted 4 players in the 1st round and 3 were taken by 16. We tried to trade the pick but couldn't so we took the last name on our list.

This is true, but they were all defense, except Martin who was OL. Our ranking of Martin was my point in regards to offense.
 

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The point being, with Callahan calling plays in a Coryell offense, there would be no real change because he was limited in play calling in Garrett's playbook. With Linehan, there would be real changes.

Linehan plays the vertical offense as well but he does some more spread stuff/'WCO' than Jason. It is a different offense a bit though.
 

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I could see us being 6-10 and I could see us being 13-3. It simply depends on how our youth develops. A lot of our holes we have on this team can simply be upgraded if guys continue to progress and get better. If Sean Lee gets better, if Demarco gets better, if Dez gets better, if Claiborne gets better, etc. Its a whole new team. If they're as good as they were last year and no progression? Expect another 8-8 or worse season. This upcoming season was never dependent on our free agents or rookie class. Though they can definitely help. But this is the time now where your past drafts can either benefit you or help you.

We are definitely NOT a 13-3 team. Not sure if you've been paying attention. We're much closer to 6-10 than we are of 13-3.

I can foresee another 8-8 season. Stuck in the mud and spinning our wheels.
 

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We are definitely NOT a 13-3 team. Not sure if you've been paying attention. We're much closer to 6-10 than we are of 13-3.

I can foresee another 8-8 season. Stuck in the mud and spinning our wheels.

Of course you do...smh What's new with you?
 

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I think Jerry is right - the team is better. I think that's pretty easy to say. How much better is the question, and I think we are a long way from being able to say the improvement is significant.
 

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The point being, with Callahan calling plays in a Coryell offense, there would be no real change because he was limited in play calling in Garrett's playbook. With Linehan, there would be real changes.


This is what im hoping. That we have a real advantage on game day with our coaches.

At some point we need a little bit of creativity instead of hoping we can win every 1 on 1 matchup which eventually just leads to hoping Romo can bail us out with his feet.
 

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Jones is also the one paying romo fat and not drafting his heir because he wants to coddle his 100 million dollar qb and not create a qb controversy.

Who would want to create a QB controversy? In Dallas? W/ the most moronic media contingent in the country? That's good for business!
 

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When you have a lead going into the fourth quarter then it is the defense that has to give up scores in order for you to lose. Blaming Romo for the collapses is fun I guess.

Doesn't always work like that. Too many times Romo has thrown int's that opened the flood gates(Lions jets in 2011.)

Other times the defense has played great and Romo has failed to put the game out of reach when the opportunity was there to do so(pats in 2011. Det in 2013)
 

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Linehan plays the vertical offense as well but he does some more spread stuff/'WCO' than Jason. It is a different offense a bit though.

I agree. I think Jerry Jones mentioned this specifically as well, i.e. with Linehan they are changing, but it's a change within the vertical offense. Callahan is a totally different offense, i.e. West Coast and he was limited in this respect. Jerry also made the point, as you are, that Linehan, within the offense, is different and we will see it. Both style and terminology, as well as systematically tailoring an offense to the strengths of personnel are the advantage than what we will see with Jason.

I'm actually more interested in the targetting of Murray as an actual receiver and not as a check down which Linehan will add, based on what we saw with Reggie Bush.
 

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I agree. I think Jerry Jones mentioned this specifically as well, i.e. with Linehan they are changing, but it's a change within the vertical offense. Callahan is a totally different offense, i.e. West Coast and he was limited in this respect. Jerry also made the point, as you are, that Linehan, within the offense, is different and we will see it. Both style and terminology, as well as systematically tailoring an offense to the strengths of personnel are the advantage than what we will see with Jason.

I'm actually more interested in the targetting of Murray as an actual receiver and not as a check down which Linehan will add, based on what we saw with Reggie Bush.

I wasn't aware he used different terminology. I was thinking they would just have to add some terms to the present one to include the new plays. But this makes more sense.

I thought we were using the Erhardt-Perkins system as it allegedly is simpler than the Coryell system. I know the trend is to get more simple and condense 9 word plays but I don't know what we're doing now. I'd like to know more.
 

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Doesn't always work like that. Too many times Romo has thrown int's that opened the flood gates(Lions jets in 2011.)

Other times the defense has played great and Romo has failed to put the game out of reach when the opportunity was there to do so(pats in 2011. Det in 2013)

Pats in 2011 we failed running the ball three times in a row to ice the game and then the defense coughed up that late TD to end the game. Detroit 2013 the defense gave up 90 yards and a TD in a handful of plays with less than a minute to play after we had taken the lead.

The 'opening up the floodgates' comment is unsubstantiated garbage youre throwing against the wall. It's not sticking.

Worst defense in the league and cannot run the ball in short yardage to run clock but its Romos fault for not being able to close the deal? Give me a break.
 

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Pats in 2011 we failed running the ball three times in a row to ice the game and then the defense coughed up that late TD to end the game. Detroit 2013 the defense gave up 90 yards and a TD in a handful of plays with less than a minute to play after we had taken the lead.

The 'opening up the floodgates' comment is unsubstantiated garbage youre throwing against the wall. It's not sticking.

Worst defense in the league and cannot run the ball in short yardage to run clock but its Romos fault for not being able to close the deal? Give me a break.

I'll reply later
 

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I wasn't aware he used different terminology. I was thinking they would just have to add some terms to the present one to include the new plays. But this makes more sense.

I thought we were using the Erhardt-Perkins system as it allegedly is simpler than the Coryell system. I know the trend is to get more simple and condense 9 word plays but I don't know what we're doing now. I'd like to know more.

http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...ill-get-megatron-treatment-under-linehan.html

Yeah, I didn't know about it either, but he expressly says it here.

"Linehan gives us a complete real change of our offense with our terminology," Jones said. "It's different. Although [Garrett and Linehan] have been together coaching, you can't see a lot of what we've been and what they did up in Detroit. He's got a track record of really zeroing in and building the offense around the talent, the specific talent and the qualities of the players."

He also says that it is going to give Romo more power.

He had serious discussions with Detroit’s quarterback (Matt Stafford) and got a great feel for Linehan’s imagination and what Linehan does to maximize skills in the individual players and his flexibility of coming up with schemes within schemes within the base or rules of an offense. Having said all of that, the most excited guy in the organization was Tony Romo to have the prospect of getting Linehan. And so they will be locked at the hip.”

I think it's clear that Jerry wanted to see more creativity in the offense and more use of specific players. We'll see how it goes.
 

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Pats in 2011 we failed running the ball three times in a row to ice the game and then the defense coughed up that late TD to end the game. Detroit 2013 the defense gave up 90 yards and a TD in a handful of plays with less than a minute to play after we had taken the lead.

The 'opening up the floodgates' comment is unsubstantiated garbage youre throwing against the wall. It's not sticking.

Worst defense in the league and cannot run the ball in short yardage to run clock but its Romos fault for not being able to close the deal? Give me a break.

Good points. Too be fair, Romo does muck it up from time to time but what QB doesn't. I'll take his TO ratio all day long although I'd still like it to be more Bradiesqe.
 

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It's also pretty evident that Callahan still holds influence cause of the Zach Martin pick.

I think too many fans fall into this kind of false thinking - if it's an O-Lineman it's Callahan's influence, if it's this kind of player or that kind of player it's Jerry's influence or Jerry let Garrett make that choice. Come on folks, they aren't just taking turns between everyone making choices (with Jerry getting twice as many as everyone else). Jerry is the final say, no doubt about that, but the choices are made with input from Jerry, Garrett, O-Coaches, D-Coaches and scouts. It's not a single person being the one responsible or carrying the influence to push a pick through, particularly if that person isn't Jerry Jones.
 
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