Jerry Jones: Owens Knew His Plays

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Doomsday101;1423529 said:
I did not like TO before the star incident or after and still don't like him, I don't care if Jerry does or not. As long as TO is on this team I hope he does a great job but doing the job and liking him are two different things.

personally, I don't like him either, was pissed he desecrated the star, but I got over it 3 years ago, but now he's a Cowboy and he's being the good teammate, again, doesn't mean I like him, but I like the player and we're better because of having him
 

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Bob Sacamano;1423542 said:
personally, I don't like him either, was pissed he desecrated the star, but I got over it 3 years ago, but now he's a Cowboy and he's being the good teammate, again, doesn't mean I like him, but I like the player and we're better because of having him

We could ditch him tomorrow and I would not cry a single tear over him, as long as he is on the team I hope he does the job. I'll leave it at that.
 

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zrinkill;1423533 said:
So are not liking him and crying about it constantly.

I made a comment and if that is crying in your eyes well then so be it. You want to start the hating and boot licker that superpunk talked about that is fine by me but every time some one makes any comment the same people come running and giving the 3rd degree because we will not sit here and drool over him like your doing right now. I expected more from TO than I saw and if that is an insult in your eyes then that is just too bad.
 

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Doomsday101;1423589 said:
I made a comment and if that is crying in your eyes well then so be it. You want to start the hating and boot licker that superpunk talked about that is fine by me but every time some one makes any comment the same people come running and giving the 3rd degree because we will not sit here and drool over him like your doing right now. I expected more from TO than I saw and if that is an insult in your eyes then that is just too bad.

:lmao:

This is how I feel about Owens ....... I think you should read it

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1423143&postcount=129
 

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DallasEast;1423294 said:
Hypothetical situation: Owens plays out his contract with Dallas and the next season (remember this is a hypothetical scenario) lands on another team. His new team plays Dallas. During the game, Owens spits a wad in Terence Newman's face.

Question: What would both your personal and public reaction (on the forum, for example) be towards Owens?

Personal: That's bull%#@. Fine him and suspend him.

Public: That's bull%#@. Fine him and suspend him.

Any further questions?

As I stated before, I will support a cowboys (past, present, and future) just as long as they conduct themselves in a manner deserving of my respect. You brought up a hypothetical based upon a "lie" told by D Hall. Remember... it was proven to be a lie. D Hall stretched the truth because in the heat of the moment he couldn't take having his back side handed to him by Terrell. That said, I still answered your question . Happy?
 

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superpunk;1423324 said:
How do you defend future Cowboys?

FYI, wearing the star doesn't make people infallible. Which is why someone who incessantly defends without prejudice, can be just as aggravating as someone who incessantly bashes without prejudice.

Both are basically the same thing, they've just taken different sides. But, they have pet names for each other, and get "passionate" about their side, and can't bear to hear the other side's opinion, or even discuss a middle ground.

It gets old.

past, present, future.... anyone that wears the star and carries himself with honor, IMO is deserving of my respect and appreciation. There will (hopefully) be many Cowboys that come along long after you and I have been laid to rest. It is, IMO, hands down the greatest sports franchise to date. Now, what did you not understand?
 

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Doomsday101;1423529 said:
I did not like TO before the star incident or after and still don't like him, I don't care if Jerry does or not. As long as TO is on this team I hope he does a great job but doing the job and liking him are two different things.

So how many times are we going to hear you and the rest of the 18%ers don't like Terrell? Don't you get tired of hearing yourself say it? Do you really think he cares?

Newsflash: He's not the first Cowboys player that didn't gain popular approval and he won't be the last. As long as he's doing his due diligence on the field and tucking it in like a nice little citizen off the field I am perfectly ok with watching him improve the potential for our team to go deep into the playoffs. Perhaps I should just stop responding to these lame posts...
 

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Doomsday101;1423584 said:
We could ditch him tomorrow and I would not cry a single tear over him, as long as he is on the team I hope he does the job. I'll leave it at that.

Really now? Surprise!!! Doomsday doesn't like Terrell. :rolleyes:
 

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zrinkill;1423143 said:
I get tired of the idiot as well ...... but do not want to lose his 13Td's 1000+ yards unless we have a viable replacement .....

He gets in no trouble with the law and gives it all he has on the field (even injured) ..... it would be stupidity to cut someone just because they are an immature jerk ....

Give me an equally good wideout who isnt an idiot and I am all for cutting him ...... If all you got is Austin, Hurd, and Crayton as replacement ...... then I want the idiot on the field Sundays.

Thats just me though

That's not just you. Terrell has his faults but he is a law abiding citizen that just loves to play football. The sooner some get past that little whisper in their ears by the media the better off they'll be. There is currently no one on this team that can hold a candle to what he brings to this team at the WR position. Period. Even when he's not catching the ball he is commanding a double team and helping his teammates pad their numbers.
 

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Bleu Star;1424501 said:
past, present, future.... anyone that wears the star and carries himself with honor, IMO is deserving of my respect and appreciation. There will (hopefully) be many Cowboys that come along long after you and I have been laid to rest. It is, IMO, hands down the greatest sports franchise to date. Now, what did you not understand?

I think it was pretty clear.

(a) How do you know who the future Cowboys are, so that they may be defended?

(b) What do they need defended from?
 

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I love how some people will defend TO to any extent just because he is a cowboy. Pretty sad actually.
 

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superpunk;1424608 said:
I think it was pretty clear.

(a) How do you know who the future Cowboys are, so that they may be defended?

(b) What do they need defended from?
Those internecine death-dealers from Hades...

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AKA ... albino ferrets.
 

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superpunk;1424608 said:
I think it was pretty clear.

(a) How do you know who the future Cowboys are, so that they may be defended?

(b) What do they need defended from?

Defend, support, root for... I don't know who the future Cowboys will be but I will root for them when they don the helmet. We have no idea who we're taking in the draft but when they become a Cowboys I will instantly become a fan that supports them and hopes they do our team well.......

Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus - Cite This Source
Main Entry: defend
Part of Speech: verb 2
Definition: support
Synonyms: advocate, aid, air, apologize for, argue, assert, back, back up, befriend, champion, cover for, endorse, espouse, exculpate, exonerate, explain, express, guarantee, justify, maintain, plead, rationalize, recommend, second, stand by, stonewall*, support, sustain, thump for, uphold, vent, vindicate, voice, warrant
Antonyms: contradict, forsake, prosecute, renounce
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"defend." Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.3.1). Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. 17 Mar. 2007. Thesaurus.com http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/defend.
 

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Bleu Star;1424495 said:
Personal: That's bull%#@. Fine him and suspend him.
Public: That's bull%#@. Fine him and suspend him.
Bleu Star's personal & public reaction: "That's bull%@@".

You're right. The hypothetical incident would be just that, but...

Bleu Star's personal & public reaction: "Fine him and suspend him".

:confused:

You're not the commissioner, a future owner/GM or head coach. If the incident were to occur, they may levy fines and/or suspensions, but those would be punishments. I was searching for an answer which coincided with your earlier replies to Jimmy40 and myself, which were:

"I'll always defend a Cowboy. (past, present, and future) If there's anyone woh happens to dislike it feel free to mock away. ;)" and "That's where the past, present, and future came in."

You made a blank statement without exceptions or exclusions. However, you did augment your previous comments in the future. More on that later.

Bleu Star;1424495 said:
Any further questions?
Not yet.

Bleu Star;1424495 said:
As I stated before, I will support a cowboys (past, present, and future) just as long as they conduct themselves in a manner deserving of my respect.
Really now? :rolleyes: Are you sure that's what you said? Or is it what you meant to say, but did not and now wish to claim to have done so after the fact?

Bleu Star;1424495 said:
You brought up a hypothetical based upon a "lie" told by D Hall.
Really? a "lie", you say? A 'lie' is something that is created which, in reality, never occurred. So, your assertion is that there was not any spitting involved.

Let's review some of Owens' statements following Hall's allegations of the spitting incident that "never happened":

"I got frustrated, and I apologize for that. It was a situation where he kept bugging me and getting in my face." - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9875673 , [comments made immediately following the December 16th game]

"I didn't intentionally spit in his face. He's trying to make it seem like more than what it was by saying I hauled off and spit in his face. I feel like if I spit in his face … somebody would've seen it." - http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/cowboys/2006-12-18-terrell-owens_x.htm , [comments made two days later, on December 18th].

Ouestions.

Could you provide a link to Hall's statements that he made up the whole thing? I don't believe that his acceptance of Owens' apology (which Owens practically denies in his comments following his apology) can be considered a refutation of his claim. Perhaps I'm wrong. Link away.

Has the league reversed or lowered it's $35,000 fine it levied onto Owens for Hall's lie? Link?

Is a lie really a lie if no one outside of those indicted by the lie can prove that it didn't happen? Owens believes so; and apparently, so do you.

Bleu Star;1424495 said:
Remember... it was proven to be a lie.
Really? :) "Proven", you say?

prove verb 1. to establish the truth or genuineness of, as by evidence or argument: to prove one's claim. - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/proven

Linky of "proof", please. :)

Bleu Star;1424495 said:
D Hall stretched the truth because in the heat of the moment he couldn't take having his back side handed to him by Terrell.
Well, Owens was embarrassing Hall. That's not questionable. Whether he (e.g. Deangelo Hall) 'stretched the truth' and it has been 'proven' that he did stretch the truth is. Something I'm certain that you'll be able to prove.

Linky? :)

Bleu Star;1424495 said:
That said, I still answered your question .
Really, now? :)

Bleu Star;1424495 said:
"Happy?" Yes, thank you for asking. However, am I as blissful as the average Owens fan? Honestly, I can't make that claim.

darn. :(
 

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theogt;1422508 said:
I just thought it was interesting that when a negative rumor about TO is reported it gets multiple stories that are plastered everywhere, but when a positive direct quote from the owner refuting the rumor is reported it gets a small mention at the tail of a piece about adding a backup nose tackle.

I'll note that most of his teammates like him. This is true even in Philadelphia. If he's a monster, he's one created by the media to sell papers and air time.

He has a loose, off-the-cuff, unreflected way of thinking about himself. He's a bit self absorbed, a bit of an attention hound. But I think that's it. I don't see meanness in him.

So of course, his good habits tend to be ignored. He works hard, keeps himself in shape, endures his nicks and cuts (how many surgeries so far with the Boys) and still plays. He gets good separation, and this club has to get him the ball where he can run with it.

Yea, he drops the ball. Hopefully that is correctable because he did good things when he caught it. He was an upgrade over Keyshawn, as much as I liked him as a teammate, because he's more elusive, faster.

Perfect? far from it. An asset? Yes, to be sure.

Anyway, it was a good post theogt.

David.
 

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dwmyers;1424900 said:
He's a bit self absorbed, a bit of an attention hound. But I think that's it.
A "bit"?

With respect, the man lugged his weight equipment into his driveway for an unworldly media session.

I believe the word bit is an understatement.
 

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DallasEast;1424910 said:
A "bit"?

With respect, the man lugged his weight equipment into his driveway for an unworldly media session.

I believe the word bit is an understatement.

He is a huge attention starved Diva with the mentality of a 4 year old.

unfortunately he is also the best WR we have.
 
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