Jerry Jones should be worshiping the ground Jimmy Johnson walks on

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4,000 yard seasons under Jerry Jones:

1983 - 4156
1985 - 4236
1986 - 4003
2006 - 4067
2007 - 4290
2009 - 4483
2010 - 4208
2011 - 4453
2012 - 4992
2013 - 4226
2014 - 4008
2019 - 4902 -
2020 - 4511 - no playoffs
2021 - 4963 - one and done
2022 - 3911 - one and done

(4,000 yard seasons with coaches)

Bill Parcells 2003-2006 (1)
Wade Phillips 2007-2010 (3)
Jason Garrett 2010-2019 (5)
Mike McCarthy 2020-Present (2)

Now, on coaches after Jimmy Johnson, except for Chan Gailey and then Jason Garrett, the records of coaches were as follows:

Switzer had 3 playoff seasons in 4 seasons.
Chan Gailey had 2 playoff seasons in 2 seasons.
Bill Parcells 2 playoff seasons in 4 seasons.
Wade Phillips 2 playoff seasons in 4 seasons.
Mike McCarthy 2 playoff seasons in 3 seasons.

Ignore those as you have been doing everything relevant....now play some more in the street, Houston Homie.

Come on let's go....no time in grade...but discuss with validation by more than another round of 35, 25, 78 and not support your insult of truth....just your own opinion and no real discussion. Can you even carry a real discussion despite running from one? :popcorn:
and the end result? not sure what's your point with this exercise, but here is the results that matter. the rest you can put it in your pipe and smoke it

1983 - 4156 -?
1985 - 4236 -?
1986 - 4003 - ?
2006 - 4067 - one and done.
2007 - 4290 - one and done
2009 - 4483 - lost in divisional round
2010 - 4208 - no playoffs
2011 - 4453 - no playoffs
2012 - 4992 - no playoffs.
2013 - 4226 - no playoffs
2014 - 4008 - lost in Divisional round. no CG
2019 - 4902 - no playoffs
2020 - 4511 - no playoffs
2021 - 4963 - one and done

so in the past 17 years. 5 playoff appearances. 2-5

yeah. you should be proud. very proud

this argument is DONE.
mic drop

2022 - 3911 - one and done
 

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this guy above me must had his head up his rear for the last 28 years that's not being bitter but real
 

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and the end result? not sure what's your point with this exercise, but here is the results that matter. the rest you can put it in your pipe and smoke it

1983 - 4156 -?
1985 - 4236 -?
1986 - 4003 - ?
2006 - 4067 - one and done.
2007 - 4290 - one and done
2009 - 4483 - lost in divisional round
2010 - 4208 - no playoffs
2011 - 4453 - no playoffs
2012 - 4992 - no playoffs.
2013 - 4226 - no playoffs
2014 - 4008 - lost in Divisional round. no CG
2019 - 4902 - no playoffs
2020 - 4511 - no playoffs
2021 - 4963 - one and done

so in the past 17 years. 5 playoff appearances. 2-5

yeah. you should be proud. very proud

this argument is DONE.
mic drop

2022 - 3911 - one and done
Are you a buffalo and intendent upon attacking any thing in your sight. Watch out, there's a barrel coming up...better complain and blame Jerry...

If that is all your discussion involves, complaining when that at any time aren't a killer in a dog fight...ask Michael Vick about that...and letting the kill spirit dominate (constructive observations second hand to realistic and development instead of applied paths of development)

Jerry Jones nor are Mike McCarthy neither one are illegal aliens suddenly trying by trial and error to learn football. C'mon listen to more than a blame game.

To see development progress in what has changed since Jimmy was trying to control all things around being a Cowboys, himself. Look how the dominant element in football has changed. That is the passing game. Follow the development of the Cowboys passing game and at least be smart enough to realize that Jerry Jones' teams were strongly involved in this professional change and consistently so. That is applying and paying attention to real contributions. Jimmy wouldn't have made it in today's game. He was a good coach but too ego centered to have weathered much more at the professional levels than he did.

Unless stone headed and bias, one can easily see the development of the passing success through Jerry pushing that element and following his coaches lead.

4,000 yard passing seasons highlights and indicates that element growing over the years and under Jerry. He worked for that element, and not by being a vein show boat. (coughing loudly)

Then the coaches were added to show success of almost all coaches that were given their three to four years to succeed. Almost all of those changed coaches made it to the playoffs. That shows stability of at least quality and success at competing and in the zone of the top 1/3 of the NFL. That is directional relevance.

As to only giving support not in talking to just another fan, who do YOU think that you are? Football is a very tough sport and there are what, 18 teams that have never won a Super Bowl. Don't think they aren't trying to and raise their own heads from time to time. This is the NFL and is a tough profession. Stupidity doesn't dominate any where for long.

The Cowboys are competitive in a regular manner. That isn't despite Jerry, but with the football help of him also. He's no bodies fool and and to say after all this time and specialized advice by many in the sport, that he instead is stupid about football, is at least naive as to the basis of a man to learn and over come.

If that is your path, that is being foolish. If you want to discuss aspects of a real Cowboy's picture...let's go. I'll discuss about real Cowboy life all day. If not, then just keep to your damn self. I'm not buying your wares then and won't further waller in the gutter to do so.
 

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this guy above me must had his head up his rear for the last 28 years that's not being bitter but real
Attracted to the topic of rears? Winning it all is not upon a single individual's shoulders. Nor was stupidity the route taken. By Jerry or some pretty good coaches along the way. Ever cleaned your own ears out?

That doesn't really appear to grab the bull by the horns beyond crying about them horns.
 

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SF 5-0
Eagles 5-0
Detroit 4-1
KC 4-1
Miami 4-1
Seattle 3-1
Tampa 3-1
Dallas 3-2
Atlanta 3-2
Baltimore 3-2
Buffalo 3-2
Indianapolis 3-2
Jacksonville 3-2
New Orleans 3-2
Pittsburgh 3-2

Now all you sky's falling sorry Jerry's now tell us just exactly where the Cowboys stand right now!
 

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That's the best head coach he has ever had. Jimmy was basically the GM too and was great at that too. So yah Jerry better put Jimmy in the ROH before it's too late. Without Jimmy , Jerry Jones would have been an abysmal failure in the NFL.
You Jimmy worshipers are incredible. How good was Jimmy when he left the Cowboys. Should Jimmy worship the ground Jerry walks on as well? None of that happens without both of them. It was the perfect match at the perfect time.
 

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Franchise QB's make coaches look like geniuses.

Belichick looked like a genius with Brady. Not so much after.

MM looked a lot smarter with Rodgers in his prime than he does with Dak.

Jimmy had a tremendous advantage with a QB like Aikman. A #1 overall draft pick, true franchise QB. 3 time Super-Bowl winner.

Jimmy was an outstanding coach- no question. He was a shrewd evaluator of talent. Still, I'll bet he doesn't look so good with a QB like Dak.
 

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Are you a buffalo and intendent upon attacking any thing in your sight. Watch out, there's a barrel coming up...better complain and blame Jerry...

If that is all your discussion involves, complaining when that at any time aren't a killer in a dog fight...ask Michael Vick about that...and letting the kill spirit dominate (constructive observations second hand to realistic and development instead of applied paths of development)

Jerry Jones nor are Mike McCarthy neither one are illegal aliens suddenly trying by trial and error to learn football. C'mon listen to more than a blame game.

To see development progress in what has changed since Jimmy was trying to control all things around being a Cowboys, himself. Look how the dominant element in football has changed. That is the passing game. Follow the development of the Cowboys passing game and at least be smart enough to realize that Jerry Jones' teams were strongly involved in this professional change and consistently so. That is applying and paying attention to real contributions. Jimmy wouldn't have made it in today's game. He was a good coach but too ego centered to have weathered much more at the professional levels than he did.

Unless stone headed and bias, one can easily see the development of the passing success through Jerry pushing that element and following his coaches lead.

4,000 yard passing seasons highlights and indicates that element growing over the years and under Jerry. He worked for that element, and not by being a vein show boat. (coughing loudly)

Then the coaches were added to show success of almost all coaches that were given their three to four years to succeed. Almost all of those changed coaches made it to the playoffs. That shows stability of at least quality and success at competing and in the zone of the top 1/3 of the NFL. That is directional relevance.

As to only giving support not in talking to just another fan, who do YOU think that you are? Football is a very tough sport and there are what, 18 teams that have never won a Super Bowl. Don't think they aren't trying to and raise their own heads from time to time. This is the NFL and is a tough profession. Stupidity doesn't dominate any where for long.

The Cowboys are competitive in a regular manner. That isn't despite Jerry, but with the football help of him also. He's no bodies fool and and to say after all this time and specialized advice by many in the sport, that he instead is stupid about football, is at least naive as to the basis of a man to learn and over come.

If that is your path, that is being foolish. If you want to discuss aspects of a real Cowboy's picture...let's go. I'll discuss about real Cowboy life all day. If not, then just keep to your damn self. I'm not buying your wares then and won't further waller in the gutter to do so.
again with the insults.

all I care about, Jerry the GM in charge and 2-5 in the playoffs in 28 years. who cares about passing yards.

you seem to only care about participation trophy. sorry, I am too old for participation trophy. regular season accolades are meaningless. they have to add up to something. regular season is participation trophy. my kids have about 150 of them.
 

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You Jimmy worshipers are incredible. How good was Jimmy when he left the Cowboys. Should Jimmy worship the ground Jerry walks on as well? None of that happens without both of them. It was the perfect match at the perfect time.
Keep thinking that. Jimmy was coming to the NFL with or without Jerry. Nobody even knew who Jerry was before he bought the Cowboys. If Jerry started acting as GM as soon as he bought the team we'd be talking about the 1970's as being our glory years. But I do get a kick of people comparing Jimmy's 4 years in Miami to Jerry's 28 years as Gm in Dallas. lol
 

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Keep thinking that. Jimmy was coming to the NFL with or without Jerry. Nobody even knew who Jerry was before he bought the Cowboys. If Jerry started acting as GM as soon as he bought the team we'd be talking about the 1970's as being our glory years. But I do get a kick of people comparing Jimmy's 4 years in Miami to Jerry's 28 years as Gm in Dallas. lol
And how many college coaches come to the NFL and immediately flame out based on a couple good years in college? The fact is that Jimmy has no more success without Jerry than Jerry does without Jimmy. The two are inextricably tied together whether you want to use Jerry as a scapegoat or not.
 

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Unbelievable. Actually, Jerry made more of those decisions than Jimmy . Jimmy has his revolving door. Then he got caught up in.
Hey Whirlpool, you are delusional if you think that. Jimmy was the brains and if not for Jones’ ego, we would have several more SB wins.
 

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Hey Whirlpool, you are delusional if you think that. Jimmy was the brains and if not for Jones’ ego, we would have several more SB wins.
Delusional, no, everybody knows it was Jerry. that want to treatment and Emmett Smith. Jimmy wanted Walsh in the supplement draft. Nothing to do with delusional. It was a fact. I guess you don’t get that
 

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Hey Whirlpool, you are delusional if you think that. Jimmy was the brains and if not for Jones’ ego, we would have several more SB wins.
You said it delusional if you think Jimmy was the brains. LMAO.
 

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It’s obvious that “CCBoy” has a man-crush on Jerry Jones and can’t separate Jerry Jones as Owner from Jerry Jones as GM. No one is questioning Jerry as Owner, in fact, we all agree he is a brilliant business man not only for the Cowboys but for the NFL. However, Jones as GM is blinded by ego and the need for all the credit — how long do you think Jones as Owner would have put up with Jones as GM if they were not the same person???
 

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It’s obvious that “CCBoy” has a man-crush on Jerry Jones and can’t separate Jerry Jones as Owner from Jerry Jones as GM. No one is questioning Jerry as Owner, in fact, we all agree he is a brilliant business man not only for the Cowboys but for the NFL. However, Jones as GM is blinded by ego and the need for all the credit — how long do you think Jones as Owner would have put up with Jones as GM if they were not the same person???
Agree,but when he was with Jimmy one couldn’t do it without the other make no mistake about it , it was an excellent team
 

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And how many college coaches come to the NFL and immediately flame out based on a couple good years in college? The fact is that Jimmy has no more success without Jerry than Jerry does without Jimmy. The two are inextricably tied together whether you want to use Jerry as a scapegoat or not.
That's not true, they had the number one defense in Miami if I'm not mistaken. He drafted several Pro bowlers such as Jason taylor, Zach thomas, Patrick Surtain. How many pro bowlers did Jerry take after Jimmy left? Two. Dexter Coakley and Larry Allen... 3rd and 2nd rounders respectively. After Parcells arrived that number increased.

Jimmy was on his way to going deep in the playoffs until his running back broke his leg. He also didn't have a good quarterback. Marino was on his very last legs.
 

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It’s obvious that “CCBoy” has a man-crush on Jerry Jones and can’t separate Jerry Jones as Owner from Jerry Jones as GM. No one is questioning Jerry as Owner, in fact, we all agree he is a brilliant business man not only for the Cowboys but for the NFL. However, Jones as GM is blinded by ego and the need for all the credit — how long do you think Jones as Owner would have put up with Jones as GM if they were not the same person???
:hammer:

I thinK CC is on Jerry Jones Payroll. or maybe he is Jerry Jones in disguise.
 

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That's the best head coach he has ever had. Jimmy was basically the GM too and was great at that too. So yah Jerry better put Jimmy in the ROH before it's too late. Without Jimmy , Jerry Jones would have been an abysmal failure in the NFL.
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And how many college coaches come to the NFL and immediately flame out based on a couple good years in college? The fact is that Jimmy has no more success without Jerry than Jerry does without Jimmy. The two are inextricably tied together whether you want to use Jerry as a scapegoat or not.
Jimmy was the exception. The Cowboys were far and away the worse team in the NFL in 1989 and he was in charge of all football decisions. It's easy to see how he would have been successful without Jerry. Jerry on the other hand accomplished nothing football wise without Jimmy. He has had 28 years to prove it.
 
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