Jerry Jones should be worshiping the ground Jimmy Johnson walks on

[Whirlwin]

If Jerry was making most of the football decisions...why has he only won 4 playoff games in almost the 30 years since Jimmy's influence left the building?

Salary cap. How many times do I need to repeat it, salary cap. Why Jimmy didn’t make it in Miami, salary, cap. I mean, come on already,

 

[Whirlwin]

Jimmy was the exception. The Cowboys were far and away the worse team in the NFL in 1989 and he was in charge of all football decisions. It's easy to see how he would have been successful without Jerry. Jerry on the other hand accomplished nothing football wise without Jimmy. He has had 28 years to prove it.

Because you gave the guy approval, I’ll answer you also. Salary cap. One more time salary cap.

 

[amame25]

Jimmy was the exception. The Cowboys were far and away the worse team in the NFL in 1989 and he was in charge of all football decisions. It's easy to see how he would have been successful without Jerry. Jerry on the other hand accomplished nothing football wise without Jimmy. He has had 28 years to prove it.

Is there somewhere I missed that Jerry said Jimmy was in charge of all decisions? Wasn't Jimmy in charge of all decisions at Miami?

 

[amame25]

That's not true, they had the number one defense in Miami if I'm not mistaken. He drafted several Pro bowlers such as Jason taylor, Zach thomas, Patrick Surtain. How many pro bowlers did Jerry take after Jimmy left? Two. Dexter Coakley and Larry Allen... 3rd and 2nd rounders respectively. After Parcells arrived that number increased.

Jimmy was on his way to going deep in the playoffs until his running back broke his leg. He also didn't have a good quarterback. Marino was on his very last legs.

None of that makes a difference when apparently the only metric is superbowls. Dallas has had many probowlers, good players, good teams since Jimmy left. I could just as easily say Dallas was on their way to the superbowl until Romo got injured.

 

[J_Allen]

None of that makes a difference when apparently the only metric is superbowls. Dallas has had many probowlers, good players, good teams since Jimmy left. I could just as easily say Dallas was on their way to the superbowl until Romo got injured.

Yes but for him to turn the Dolphins around in a short amount of time and load their defense with pro bowlers and Hall of Famers says something.

Jerry was busy taking players like Charlie Williams in the third round, Hurvin mccormack, Stepret Williams, alundis bryce. Kenny wheaton. Shante Carver. Nothing but scrubs.

Edit: and we've never come close to the Super Bowl since January of 1996.

 

[RomoIsGod]

Yes but for him to turn the Dolphins around in a short amount of time and load their defense with pro bowlers and Hall of Famers says something.

Jerry was busy taking players like Charlie Williams in the third round, Hurvin mccormack, Stepret Williams, alundis bryce. Kenny wheaton. Shante Carver. Nothing but scrubs.

Plus he had a washed Marino

 

[J_Allen]

Plus he had a washed Marino

Exactly and he was on his way to the Super Bowl in my opinion because he finally found a running game but Cecil Collins broke his leg.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Salary cap. How many times do I need to repeat it, salary cap. Why Jimmy didn’t make it in Miami, salary, cap. I mean, come on already,

So according to you the ONLY reason we won in the early 90s was because there was no salary cap? Wouldn't that mean EVERYONE that won prior to the salary cap only won because a salary cap did not exist? And now that a salary cap IS in place, nobody should be winning?

You make it sound like a salary cap is a barrier to winning....or is that only for Dallas?

 

[Whirlwin]

So according to you the ONLY reason we won in the early 90s was because there was no salary cap? Wouldn't that mean EVERYONE that won prior to the salary cap only won because a salary cap did not exist? And now that a salary cap IS in place, nobody should be winning?

You make it sound like a salary cap is a barrier to winning....or is that only for Dallas?

That’s why they stopped it , and we have the salary cap. Big market that’s why they won. Absolutely.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

That’s why they stopped it , and we have the salary cap. Big market that’s why they won. Absolutely.

So the Giants won in the non-salary cap era....and in the salary cap era
The Steelers won in the non-salary cap era....and in the salary cap era
The 49ers won in the non-salary cap era....and in the salary cap era

I guess I am just trying to figure out how you came to the conclusion that the salary cap is a barrier to winning

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Because you gave the guy approval, I’ll answer you also. Salary cap. One more time salary cap.

Who cares? Jimmy built the team. He had power over all football decisions. It was in his contract. Ignore that. And who cares about the salary cap because other teams that were great before have stayed relevant. If that's an excuse why Jerry is a complete failure in football matters then it's a weak one.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Is there somewhere I missed that Jerry said Jimmy was in charge of all decisions? Wasn't Jimmy in charge of all decisions at Miami?

Jimmy has said it over and over again. He said it was in his contract. Jerry tried to change it. If Jimmy had the same power he had in Miami then Marino would have been gone. And if you're going by what Jerry says then that's your problem because the guy's been lying for years.

 

[Whirlwin]

Who cares? Jimmy built the team. He had power over all football decisions. It was in his contract. Ignore that. And who cares about the salary cap because other teams that were great before have stayed relevant. If that's an excuse why Jerry is a complete failure in football matters then it's a weak one.

You’re welcome to your opinion, but it was teamwork

 

[George]

Jerry needs an exit plan. Sell the team after a big win.

 

[Whirlwin]

Who cares? Jimmy built the team. He had power over all football decisions. It was in his contract. Ignore that. And who cares about the salary cap because other teams that were great before have stayed relevant. If that's an excuse why Jerry is a complete failure in football matters then it's a weak one.

I totally disagree. The both built the team it’s pretty obvious. I also don’t believe it was in his contract. Where is the proof of that? It’s one of the reasons Jimmy didn’t make it in Miami. Unless you have other excuses for him.

 

[amame25]

Jimmy has said it over and over again. He said it was in his contract. Jerry tried to change it. If Jimmy had the same power he had in Miami then Marino would have been gone. And if you're going by what Jerry says then that's your problem because the guy's been lying for years.

Yes Jimmy said Jimmy said. Has anyone confirmed this or could it just be an example of an ego driven head coach puffing out his chest. And just for the record, they're both ego driven, that's why they worked until they didn't.

 

[DallasEast]

The fact is that Jimmy has no more success without Jerry than Jerry does without Jimmy.

This is true based on each individual's degree of commitment. Let's review:

Jimmy Johnson
NFL head coach: 1989-1993
Out of the league: 1994-1995
NFL head coach: 1996-1999
Out of the league: 2000-present

Jerry Jones
1989-present

9 years versus 34 years.

Shouldn't the guy, with 26 more years in the league, have created much more success demonstratively over the guy, who has been out of the league completely for nearly a quarter century? Not counting his time fishing between his head coaching stints in Dallas and Miami?

 

[NotForLong]

On site excuse for not wading through a disappointment to the team. That is only in a given situation and resentment of another team's success. Sportsmanship still involves driving through failure and winning.

ROH is only a means to ***** at present. The team is weak for now...fix it. That's what Texans are known for...not starting fights because one is drunk and crying in his beer. Those are known at the Confinement Facility.

Do you look in the Mirror and silently mouth what you post

 

[NotForLong]

This is true based on each individual's degree of commitment. Let's review:

Jimmy Johnson
NFL head coach: 1989-1993
Out of the league: 1994-1995
NFL head coach: 1996-1999
Out of the league: 2000-present

Jerry Jones
1989-present

9 years versus 34 years.

Shouldn't the guy, with 26 more years in the league, have created much more success demonstratively over the guy, who has been out of the league completely for nearly a quarter century? Not counting his time fishing between his head coaching stints in Dallas and Miami?

I always thought He should have taken the Tampa Bay Job . . . They were loaded with Draft picks at the time

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Yes Jimmy said Jimmy said. Has anyone confirmed this or could it just be an example of an ego driven head coach puffing out his chest. And just for the record, they're both ego driven, that's why they worked until they didn't.

Jimmy said it in his book as well I believe. If Jerry knows it's a lie why doesn't he sue or comment on it? Just crickets from him. I do agree that they both have huge egos. It's too bad they couldn't put their pettiness aside for the good of the team.