Jerry Jones should win Executive of the Year 2 years running

texbumthelife

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as already mention no one is hired without Jerry approval. Jerry like any other GM gets major input from those around him. I agree Jason wanting Linehan and Jerry making it happen was key. Marnillie did come over with Kiffen and Jerry hired them both. They did not hire themselves.

And Jerry made the decision to promote Marinelli to DC. Or was, at least, in on it.
 

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I thought Jerry sold his soul to the devil in 1990. Turns out, it was just a 15 year lease, and it was time to renew the lease. Expect more Super Bowls forthcoming.

He sold Stephen soul. Charlotte is next.
 

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as already mention no one is hired without Jerry approval. Jerry like any other GM gets major input from those around him. I agree Jason wanting Linehan and Jerry making it happen was key. Marnillie did come over with Kiffen and Jerry hired them both. They did not hire themselves.

as i was told as truth is stone, Linehan was hired for Garrett, whcih i found odd because we had to hire everyone around Garrett to make Garrett successful, ok that aside. lets go with it, that was Garretts pick which everyone has to acknoledge had to happen. Ok. Marinliee came because of Kiffen HE WAS NOT THE TARGET. lets all keep that in perspective, what i love is that Kiffen was the hire, he was going to do great things and that flounder, Rod steps up and opps, JJ gets the credit. WHAT?
 

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And Jerry made the decision to promote Marinelli to DC.

Yep, that does not mean others are not getting input I have no doubt Garrett has input as does Stephen as does McClay but at the end of the day the final word is Jerry. He has been blasted in the past for it and with justification
 

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as i was told as truth is stone, Linehan was hired for Garrett, whcih i found odd because we had to hire everyone around Garrett to make Garrett successful, ok that aside. lets go with it, that was Garretts pick which everyone has to acknoledge had to happen.

Jerry made the Linehan deal happen, whether Garrett wanted it or not. Jerry signs the checks.

Ok. Marinliee came because of Kiffen HE WAS NOT THE TARGET. lets all keep that in perspective, what i love is that Kiffen was the hire, he was going to do great things and that flounder, Rod steps up and opps, JJ gets the credit. WHAT?

Jerry was in on/made the decision to promote Marinelli to DC. He also signed Marinelli originally.
 

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as i was told as truth is stone, Linehan was hired for Garrett, whcih i found odd because we had to hire everyone around Garrett to make Garrett successful, ok that aside. lets go with it, that was Garretts pick which everyone has to acknoledge had to happen. Ok. Marinliee came because of Kiffen HE WAS NOT THE TARGET. lets all keep that in perspective, what i love is that Kiffen was the hire, he was going to do great things and that flounder, Rod steps up and opps, JJ gets the credit. WHAT?

Saying it was Garrett pick or choice does not mean Jerry still does not have final approval, he is paying these men they are not here for free nor is Jason paying them out of his pocket. I expect Jason to go out and find coaches to be a member of his staff but that still does not change the fact the final word on anyone coming to Dallas resides in Jerry office. All of these people, players, coaches and scouts work for 1 man his name is Jerry Jones.
 

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gotcha 1 good move, JJ is awesome, some bad moves and we forget it. I got it now. Thank for you clearing that up.

It's not about forgetting. It's about giving credit where it's due. You're rehashing old news to knock Jerry down. No one is saying Jerry hasn't made brutally bad decisions. I have raked him over the coals myself. However, what he has done the last couple years and so far this off season, raises and eye brow and deserves credit. If for no other reason than how poorly he had made decisions previously.

No one is ignoring his mistakes. This is a one year award. I don't know how to phrase that to get through to you.
 

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gotcha 1 good move, JJ is awesome, some bad moves and we forget it. I got it now. Thank for you clearing that up.

who is forgetting, Claiborne is still here, Carr is still here and Jerry takes the hit for them. No one is passing the buck not even Jerry he has taken the heat. I have always found it funny that any player who is successful is someone else's pick but if a player fails that is on Jerry. Good picks or bad it falls to Jerry that is just the way it is.
 

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It's not about forgetting. it's about giving credit where it's due. You're rehashing old news to knock Jerry down. No one is saying Jerry hasn't made brutally bad decisions. I have raked him over the coals myself. However, what he has done the last couple years and so far this off season, raises and eye brow and deserves credit. If for no other reason than how poorly he had made decisions previously.

No one is ignoring his mistakes. This is a one year award. I don't know how to phrase that to get through to you.

if you acknowledge the bad mistakes, im there, if you want the good, i do to, but i want the proven good. None of this draft has played 1 down yet. thats my stand. Hear me out, you want to go over last years and say JJ did good lets do it, ill happily discuss it im not going to agree with everything but even if i dont if you make a good case i will agree to that. This is my opinion and I CAN BE WRONG, i will admit that too. Fair?
 

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who is forgetting, Claiborne is still here, Carr is still here and Jerry takes the hit for them. No one is passing the buck not even Jerry he has taken the heat. I have always found it funny that any player who is successful is someone else's pick but if a player fails that is on Jerry. Good picks or bad it falls to Jerry that is just the way it is.

ok Jerry can even draft a good talent and he may not work here in Dallas, that i agree to a well.
 

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ok Jerry can even draft a good talent and he may not work here in Dallas, that i agree to a well.

that can be said for 31 other teams. Bottom line Jerry is the head man all of these people work for him. At any given moment if Jerry does not want that coach or that player they are gone.
 

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Time to move along. Just my .02 worth.

make it a full year and get the evidence, barring some factors, like if the player is hurt im not arguning the fact he wasnt on field. But some picks are going to be Clairborne 2.0. thats a fact in the draft.
 

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Saying it was Garrett pick or choice does not mean Jerry still does not have final approval, he is paying these men they are not here for free nor is Jason paying them out of his pocket. I expect Jason to go out and find coaches to be a member of his staff but that still does not change the fact the final word on anyone coming to Dallas resides in Jerry office. All of these people, players, coaches and scouts work for 1 man his name is Jerry Jones.

I dont mind giving the Garrett contingency credit for Linehan. After all, they have to have at least one thing that Garrett did well to hang their hat on.

But it really is nice to be back in a place where people are arguing over who to give the credit for the great moves/success. It has been a long time.
 

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Right here, or i might be on ignore, that happens when one doesnt like facts. but here non the less.

I'm not apologizing what I said about him. Last year was a great season but it doesn't make up for the 20 before then. He has to sustain this for me to change my mind.
 

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if you acknowledge the bad mistakes, im there, if you want the good, i do to, but i want the proven good. None of this draft has played 1 down yet. thats my stand. Hear me out, you want to go over last years and say JJ did good lets do it, ill happily discuss it im not going to agree with everything but even if i dont if you make a good case i will agree to that. This is my opinion and I CAN BE WRONG, i will admit that too. Fair?

No one's picks have played this year though. Every GM is going to be rated and or discussed based on projections of their picks. It's the same for every single GM. With that in consideration, the Cowboys got three top-20 caliber players without making any moves. I can't hype that enough. That is an absolute coup.
 
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