Jerry Jones Sure Makes a Good Scapegoat

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Jerry, Jerry Jerry. Its so easy to single him out and bash them its not even funny. I see thread after thread and post after post stating that as long as this guy is around its impossible to win. I don't see clear reasons for this just a general consensus with little to no backing.

Other than refusing to fire Wade so far what exactly did he do wrong? Sure he meddles with the coaching staff but midseason with Stewart and Read floundering around he pushed some buttons and got Stewart on the backburner and other coaches helping out on ST. Both units improved especially the defense.

Supposedly meddling in coaching is bad but in this case it was not only necessary but it worked. Its also why I am not convinced that Jerry is 100% when he says that Wade will return. You really cannot give a more convincing vote of non-confidence then that action right there.

Maybe he values continuity or is so enamored with Garrett that he will suffer Wade for another year but I find it odd that he would have done that and REALLY be fully intent on preserving the coaching staff.

There are also allusions to Jerry's open door policy with the players undermining the coaching staff. This is something Galloway and Co love to spew but I have seen zero credible evidence to back this up.

Jerry's work as a GM has been superb.

On the free agency tip he has locked up quality guys like Newman, Romo, Ratliff, Barber, Kosier, Gurode, Columbo, Witten, etc. The feared implosions of Pacman and Tank never materialized and while people may try to play revisionist about 90% of the people on this board just loved the RW11 trade led by Host, theo and stash.

The draft has been excellent the last two years as well. The last Ireland draft was pretty good in getting us Spencer, Folk and Anderson who are all starters but this last year was a pure blockbuster with Jones, Choice, Jenkins, Scandrick, and Bennet all looking to be high caliber players.

Oh and btw aren't GMs supposed to hire the coaching staff too.

Regardless I am tired of all the Jerry fearmongering threads lately. Other than the 'the only constant for the last 12 years' and his refusal so far to fire Wade, what specifics can anyone point to as to WHY Jerry is the problem?

Enough generalities with no supporting evidence. Do you really think that Jerry was more detrimental than Romo, Kosier, Barber, Jones, Holland, Witten, Adams, TNew, RW11, RW18, Davis, Brown, Watkins, Burnett, Spencer, et al missing time and battling through major injuries.

Its easy, and for some people, fun to look to the easy excuse. Its just not that easy. Sorry but there is no panacea of 'fire Wade' or 'Stephen needs to replace Jerry.' There just isn't. Sorry about that.
 
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FuzzyLumpkins;2540425 said:
Jerry, Jerry Jerry. Its so easy to single him out and bash them its not even funny. I see thread after thread and post after post stating that as long as these guys are around its impossible to win. I don't see clear reasons for this just a general consensus with little to no backing.

As for Jerry, other than refusing to fire Wade so far what exactly did he do wrong? Sure he meddles with the coaching staff but midseason with Stewart and Read floundering around he pushed some buttons and got Stewart on the backburner and other coaches helping out on ST. Both units improved especially the defense.

Supposedly meddling in coaching is bad but in this case it was not only necessary but it worked. Its also why I am not convinced that Jerry is 100% when he says that Wade will return. You really cannot give a more convincing vote of non-confidence then that action right there.

Maybe he values continuity or is so enamored with Garrett that he will suffer Wade for another year but I find it odd that he would have done that and REALLY be fully intent on preserving the coaching staff.

There are also allusions to Jerry's open door policy with the players undermining the coaching staff. This is something Galloway and Co love to spew but I have seen zero credible evidence to back this up.

Jerry's work as a GM has been superb.

On the free agency tip he has locked up quality guys like Newman, Romo, Ratliff, Barber, Kosier, Gurode, Columbo, Witten, etc. The feared implosions of Pacman and Tank never materialized and while people may try to play revisionist about 90% of the people on this board just loved the RW11 trade led by Host, theo and stash.

The draft has been excellent the last two years as well. The last Ireland draft was pretty good in getting us Spencer, Folk and Anderson who are all starters but this last year was a pure blockbuster with Jones, Choice, Jenkins, Scandrick, and Bennet all looking to be high caliber players.

Oh and btw aren't GMs supposed to hire the coaching staff too.

Regardless I am tired of all the Jerry fearmongering threads lately. Other than the 'the only constant for the last 12 years' and his refusal so far to fire Wade, what specifics can anyone point to as to WHY Jerry is the problem?

Enough generalities with no supporting evidence. Do you really think that Jerry was more detrimental than Romo, Kosier, Barber, Jones, Holland, Witten, Adams, TNew, RW11, RW18, Davis, Brown, Watkins, Burnett, Spencer, et al missing time and battling through major injuries.

Its easy, and for some people, fun to look to the easy excuse. Its just not that easy. Sorry but there is no panacea of 'fire Wade' or 'Stephen needs to replace Jerry.' There just isn't. Sorry about that.



This post :lmao2:
 

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Nice New but i still am waiting for specifics rather than the stupid fearmongering that is the rage.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2540425 said:
Jerry, Jerry Jerry. Its so easy to single him out and bash them its not even funny. I see thread after thread and post after post stating that as long as these guys are around its impossible to win. I don't see clear reasons for this just a general consensus with little to no backing.

As for Jerry, other than refusing to fire Wade so far what exactly did he do wrong? Sure he meddles with the coaching staff but midseason with Stewart and Read floundering around he pushed some buttons and got Stewart on the backburner and other coaches helping out on ST. Both units improved especially the defense.

Supposedly meddling in coaching is bad but in this case it was not only necessary but it worked. Its also why I am not convinced that Jerry is 100% when he says that Wade will return. You really cannot give a more convincing vote of non-confidence then that action right there.

Maybe he values continuity or is so enamored with Garrett that he will suffer Wade for another year but I find it odd that he would have done that and REALLY be fully intent on preserving the coaching staff.

There are also allusions to Jerry's open door policy with the players undermining the coaching staff. This is something Galloway and Co love to spew but I have seen zero credible evidence to back this up.

Jerry's work as a GM has been superb.

On the free agency tip he has locked up quality guys like Newman, Romo, Ratliff, Barber, Kosier, Gurode, Columbo, Witten, etc. The feared implosions of Pacman and Tank never materialized and while people may try to play revisionist about 90% of the people on this board just loved the RW11 trade led by Host, theo and stash.

The draft has been excellent the last two years as well. The last Ireland draft was pretty good in getting us Spencer, Folk and Anderson who are all starters but this last year was a pure blockbuster with Jones, Choice, Jenkins, Scandrick, and Bennet all looking to be high caliber players.

Oh and btw aren't GMs supposed to hire the coaching staff too.

Regardless I am tired of all the Jerry fearmongering threads lately. Other than the 'the only constant for the last 12 years' and his refusal so far to fire Wade, what specifics can anyone point to as to WHY Jerry is the problem?

Enough generalities with no supporting evidence. Do you really think that Jerry was more detrimental than Romo, Kosier, Barber, Jones, Holland, Witten, Adams, TNew, RW11, RW18, Davis, Brown, Watkins, Burnett, Spencer, et al missing time and battling through major injuries.

Its easy, and for some people, fun to look to the easy excuse. Its just not that easy. Sorry but there is no panacea of 'fire Wade' or 'Stephen needs to replace Jerry.' There just isn't. Sorry about that.


If you don't think that Jerry is a major part of the problem here you are on crack. He has been through 4 coaches since his last playoff victory. He has been through numerous players. The only common denominator here is him. No legitimate coach wants to coach here because of HIM!

Wake up *******. We are locked into Romo for years same with TO due to his over eagerness to sign potential stars. When they don't pan out you are stuck with them and the cap.
 

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We really do not know if Jerry meddles with the coaches or not. We are not privileged to sit in on meetings and such. The only thing we have is what we see. We see his apparent refusal to hire a HC with a back bone (Johnson and Parcells being the exception). I think strictly as a GM Jerry does a pretty good job. You can not deny his commitment to winning and his willingness to spend the money. He also seems to be loyal to a fault. If he likes you he refuses to cut ties. I hope all this no changes in the coaching staff is just a smoke screen to give him time to speak with the likes of Cowher, Stoops or Holmgren.
 
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90'sBoys;2540453 said:
If you don't think that Jerry is a major part of the problem here you are on crack. He has been through 4 coaches since his last playoff victory. He is been through numerous players. The only common denominator her is him. No legitimate coach wants to coach here because of HIM!

Wake up *******. We are locked into Romo for years same with TO due to his over eagerness to sign potential stars. When they don't pan out you are stuck with them and the cap.


This sums it up! Great job!
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2540425 said:
Jerry, Jerry Jerry. Its so easy to single him out and bash them its not even funny. I see thread after thread and post after post stating that as long as these guys are around its impossible to win. I don't see clear reasons for this just a general consensus with little to no backing.

As for Jerry,
:huh:
 

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90'sBoys;2540453 said:
If you don't think that Jerry is a major part of the problem here you are on crack. He has been through 4 coaches since his last playoff victory. He is been through numerous players. The only common denominator her is him. No legitimate coach wants to coach here because of HIM!

Wake up *******. We are locked into Romo for years same with TO due to his over eagerness to sign potential stars. When they don't pan out you are stuck with them and the cap.

Smae crap was said after Campo before Parcells came in. Its just not true. Again with the 'hes the only constant for the last 12 years' argument. It sounds great and I would buy it pre Parcells era but it holds no water now.

SPECIFICS are hare hard to come by for you guys.
 

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percyhoward;2540462 said:

Jerry has split personalities. You know, Jerry the Owner, Jerry the GM, Jerry the Coach.

Cmon, get with da program. ;)
 

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Fuzzy, I was just like you. I was a really strong defender of Jerry Jones but at some point, you have to see that there is one common factor.

As long as the players know that Jerry Jones, the man that signs their paychecks has their back, they have absolutely no fear of the Coaching Staff.
 

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Yes, it's a coincidence that we haven't won a playoff game in an eternity with the same GM in place. He's a victim of circumstances. When did fans become overindulgent parents?
 

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Maikeru-sama;2540481 said:
Fuzzy, I was just like you. I was a really strong defender of Jerry Jones but at some point, you have to see that there is one common factor.

As long as the players know that Jerry Jones, the man that signs their paychecks has their back, they have absolutely no fear of the Coaching Staff.

:hammer:
 

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tyke1doe;2540480 said:
Jerry has split personalities. You know, Jerry the Owner, Jerry the GM, Jerry the Coach.
If Fuzzy is Jerry, that explains the Freudian slip of the lip.
 

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heavyg;2540457 said:
We really do not know if Jerry meddles with the coaches or not. We are not privileged to sit in on meetings and such. The only thing we have is what we see. We see his apparent refusal to hire a HC with a back bone (Johnson and Parcells being the exception). I think strictly as a GM Jerry does a pretty good job. You can not deny his commitment to winning and his willingness to spend the money. He also seems to be loyal to a fault. If he likes you he refuses to cut ties. I hope all this no changes in the coaching staff is just a smoke screen to give him time to speak with the likes of Cowher, Stoops or Holmgren.


I don't think that there is any doubt Jerry loves this team and is committed to making it better. But he is like the big dumb guy on "Of Mice and Men" who loves his rabbits so much that he squeezes them so hard and pets them so hard that he ends up killing them. Then he doesn't realize why they are dead. So to appease the big dumb guy they keep giving him new rabbits and he keeps killing them with his "love". Sound familiar?
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2540425 said:
Other than refusing to fire Wade so far what exactly did he do wrong?

You act like this act isn't enough!

There doesn't need to be a single reason other than this one.

Phillips is a soft puppet who'll do anything Jones (or anyone else!) tells him to do and that's a major reason why this team hasn't and won't win anything.

As long as he and his staff are returning, the underwhelming results will be the same.

And as long as Jerry is willing to bring this bucnh back for the sake of 'continuity', he'll be bashed - and deservedly so.

We're looking at the Campo era all over again.
 

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Good post, Fuzzy. But I think it's just me and you on this one.
 
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