Jerry Jones Sure Makes a Good Scapegoat

[utrunner07]

We have to see how RW11 works out. That one is up in the air. I dont know how you fell on that one pre facto; I know I hated RW11 for a first much less more than that. At the same time i think half a season is premature to evaluate. If he turns into a productive receiver which he can dop if he stays healthy, I think he is worth the 15th or so pick in the draft which is where the picks we gave up equate to.

I really think the Jerry hate boils down to his statements so far to retain Wade. I get that but i still say its to simplistic to lay it all on his feet.

News flash Fuzzy, Roy did nothing for us this season, we could have gotten him as a free agent this off season and KEPT ALL OUR DRAFT picks had we waited...so no, we dont have to see how it works out, it was a mistake.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I've got a few for you, Eistein:

• The ONLY time Jones has had a championship calibur team is when he lucked out on the outrageous amount of picks he got for Hershel Walker from the Vikes. Even then, he would have blown it if he hadn't given Jimma more power in the draft process than he has with any coach since. He also let Jimma kick out the malcontents (more on that later).
• Since winning their last Super Bowl with Jimma's team, JJ hasn't even smelled a championship. He has made poor decisions on coachs & players.
• Lately he has lost his freaking mind. He signs Me-O when NO OTHER TEAM would touch him. He signs Lack-man Jones when NO OTHER TEAM would touch him, then brings him back when he breaks the law AGAIN!
• Me-O has a history a mile long of not getting along with his position coachs, OCs, and QBs. When he repeats his tantrums in Dallas, what does Jerra do? Does he allow the coach to decide what to do, like ANY OTHER OWNER would? No. He dances with joy that his team is falling apart at the seams.
• It seems that ANY attention to the Cowboys is good attention--to Jerra. While Cowboys fans everwhere cringe every time they watch TV or listen to the radio & hear the most revered team in pro sports made into a laughing stock, Jerra relishes it. What the ****?!!!

For the first time in the 43 years I have been a Cowboys fan....no wait, fan is too soft a word....loved & counted the days when I could watch MY TEAM play the best football on the planet!....I have lost hope in the entire organization. Of course, there have been devastating losses in the past, but we always knew things would get better. With the owner of the team bringing in more outcasts than even nutjob Al Davis, and turning a once proud franchise into a freak show, I feel totally lost & hopeless about my team's future. I am not alone.

I got a response for you Fermi.

I actually do understand the general and special theories of relativity but the leap of logic he made given the knowledge base at the time is far beyong my ability.

TO is problematic. He also gives you double digit TDs and really only chirps when the team loses. The whole Werder thing was just stupid.

Oh and BTW he brokered the Walker trade, he did not just luck into it.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

News flash Fuzzy, Roy did nothing for us this season, we could have gotten him as a free agent this off season and KEPT ALL OUR DRAFT picks had we waited...so no, we dont have to see how it works out, it was a mistake.

There is no guarantee that we could have gotten him this offseason. I personally would not have made the trade but again instant evaluations are worthless.

 

[Bach]

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CALM DOWN! The coaches and personnel are in place! I repeat, the coaches and personnel are in place!!!!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Jerry Jones, the one constant of our playoff/SB drought.
I think that sums it up.

It also posits nothing. We played at Texas Stadium for the last 12 years and Juraszek was our strength coach and VR was our practice facility and the cheerleaders had the same uniforms and the list goes on.

Frankly, the argument sucks and deduces nothing if its not the only constant.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

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CALM DOWN! The coaches and personnel are in place! I repeat, the coaches and personnel are in place!!!!

As i said fearmongering. Its funny that you use Iraqi garbage to try and prove your point.

And no Hos, i will not go political.

 

[bbgun]

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CALM DOWN! The coaches and personnel are in place! I repeat, the coaches and personnel are in place!!!!

Excellent. Sadly, his enablers are out in force today, up to their usual mischief. "Shame" is not in their vocabulary.

 

[Alexander]

I really think the Jerry hate boils down to his statements so far to retain Wade. I get that but i still say its to simplistic to lay it all on his feet.

It depends on which Jerry you are discussing. There is no other owner I would want. He markets his brand and keeps it prosperous. But that's business, which has no effect on the football field. Jerry GM, well, he leaves a lot to be desired. Maikeru-sama made some valid points earlier. But when the two owner/GM are synonymous, mismanagement is compounded. Jerry Jones is accountible only to himself. And that's a problem.

 

[Bach]

It also posits nothing. We played at Texas Stadium for the last 12 years and Juraszek was our strength coach and VR was our practice facility and the cheerleaders had the same uniforms and the list goes on.

Frankly, the argument sucks and deduces nothing if its not the only constant.

You've nailed it!!!! It's the cheerleaders uniforms!

Forget the man making the decisions and hiring losers and perpetuating the circus atmosphere, it's the cheerleaders uniforms that's the constant!!!

 

[percyhoward]

That's hard to say. I don't know how severe his plantar fasciitis was and whether that affected his play. And I don't know what was the cause of some of the miscommunications between Tony and the rest of the receivers, Witten included.

Right, but we don't know how much Romo's various health problems affected his play either. We just know that Romo was a better option than his backups.

Would you say the same about Roy?

 

[bigE79]

Jerry, Jerry Jerry. Its so easy to single him out and bash them its not even funny. I see thread after thread and post after post stating that as long as this guy is around its impossible to win. I don't see clear reasons for this just a general consensus with little to no backing.

Other than refusing to fire Wade so far what exactly did he do wrong? Sure he meddles with the coaching staff but midseason with Stewart and Read floundering around he pushed some buttons and got Stewart on the backburner and other coaches helping out on ST. Both units improved especially the defense.

Supposedly meddling in coaching is bad but in this case it was not only necessary but it worked. Its also why I am not convinced that Jerry is 100% when he says that Wade will return. You really cannot give a more convincing vote of non-confidence then that action right there.

Maybe he values continuity or is so enamored with Garrett that he will suffer Wade for another year but I find it odd that he would have done that and REALLY be fully intent on preserving the coaching staff.

There are also allusions to Jerry's open door policy with the players undermining the coaching staff. This is something Galloway and Co love to spew but I have seen zero credible evidence to back this up.

Jerry's work as a GM has been superb.

On the free agency tip he has locked up quality guys like Newman, Romo, Ratliff, Barber, Kosier, Gurode, Columbo, Witten, etc. The feared implosions of Pacman and Tank never materialized and while people may try to play revisionist about 90% of the people on this board just loved the RW11 trade led by Host, theo and stash.

The draft has been excellent the last two years as well. The last Ireland draft was pretty good in getting us Spencer, Folk and Anderson who are all starters but this last year was a pure blockbuster with Jones, Choice, Jenkins, Scandrick, and Bennet all looking to be high caliber players.

Oh and btw aren't GMs supposed to hire the coaching staff too.

Regardless I am tired of all the Jerry fearmongering threads lately. Other than the 'the only constant for the last 12 years' and his refusal so far to fire Wade, what specifics can anyone point to as to WHY Jerry is the problem?

Enough generalities with no supporting evidence. Do you really think that Jerry was more detrimental than Romo, Kosier, Barber, Jones, Holland, Witten, Adams, TNew, RW11, RW18, Davis, Brown, Watkins, Burnett, Spencer, et al missing time and battling through major injuries.

Its easy, and for some people, fun to look to the easy excuse. Its just not that easy. Sorry but there is no panacea of 'fire Wade' or 'Stephen needs to replace Jerry.' There just isn't. Sorry about that.

GREAT POST FL

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ok fine I will for the sake of argument say Jerry had nothing to do with the QB fiasco here this year...does that explain the years of not having a serviceable QB because Jerry wanted to fix the position himself?

Henson, Carter, Leaf, Hutchinson, Wright, Stoerner, Bledsoe, Testeverde...yeah we had a wonderful GM picking those guys..

Failure rate of even 1st round QBs is high. So whats your point. Your right he should have picked Leftwich over Newman.....

 

[Bach]

As i said fearmongering.

Fearmongering? How can you attempt to even defend the man after the last 13 years?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Nice New but i still am waiting for specifics rather than the stupid fearmongering that is the rage.

When was the last time the cowboys won a playoff game?

How many times have we gotten to a playoff game since Jimmy Left?

I give credit to Jones as well as Jimmy for our 3 superbowls in the 90's. I don't think Jimmy could have done it alone.

Problem is that Jerry has not gotten the ship right since then.

Hard to fight the truth of the matter of us not winning a playoff game in so many years no matter how it is spinned.

The only constant from the superbowl years to now is Jerry and the front office.

Does Jerry deserve ALL of the blame. I would say no, others might say yes. But it is quite clear that whether he deserves all of or some of the blame...he does at the very least share in the blame.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Jerry Jones is accountible only to himself. And that's a problem.

Well, another GM would be accountable to Jerry, so taking away that position from him and putting in someone else, still fundamentally relies on how Jerry perceives he is doing the GM job.

So technically, you're in a quandary. You love JJ the owner, but hate JJ the GM. So you wouldn't want him to sell the team to someone else, but you don't want him as GM, but the latter still relies on his judgment.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Excellent. Sadly, his enablers are out in force today, up to their usual mischief. "Shame" is not in their vocabulary.

Oh yeah you maroons are the minority.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

When was the last time the cowboys won a playoff game?

How many times have we gotten to a playoff game since Jimmy Left?

I give credit to Jones as well as Jimmy for our 3 superbowls in the 90's. I don't think Jimmy could have done it alone.

Problem is that Jerry has not gotten the ship right since then.

Hard to fight the truth of the matter of us not winning a playoff game in so many years no matter how it is spinned.

The only constant from the superbowl years to now is Jerry and the front office.

Does Jerry deserve ALL of the blame. I would say no, others might say yes. But it is quite clear that whether he deserves all of or some of the blame...he does at the very least share in the blame.

Thats just the the same argument worded differently brah.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

GREAT POST FL

thank you. anyway i need to bail for a bit ill be back later.

 

[bbgun]

As i said fearmongering. Its funny that you use Iraqi garbage to try and prove your point.

And no Hos, i will not go political.

Settle down. He's comparing him to a press stooge for the Baathist party, not Saddam Hussein. Jerry is not above being parodied.

 

[Bach]

thank you. anyway i need to bail for a bit ill be back later.

What will we do without you? We need a blind Jerry apologist here to keep us entertained.