Jerry Jones Sure Makes a Good Scapegoat

[Batman]

Jerry, Jerry Jerry. Its so easy to single him out and bash them its not even funny. I see thread after thread and post after post stating that as long as this guy is around its impossible to win. I don't see clear reasons for this just a general consensus with little to no backing.

Other than refusing to fire Wade so far what exactly did he do wrong? Sure he meddles with the coaching staff but midseason with Stewart and Read floundering around he pushed some buttons and got Stewart on the backburner and other coaches helping out on ST. Both units improved especially the defense.

Supposedly meddling in coaching is bad but in this case it was not only necessary but it worked. Its also why I am not convinced that Jerry is 100% when he says that Wade will return. You really cannot give a more convincing vote of non-confidence then that action right there.

Maybe he values continuity or is so enamored with Garrett that he will suffer Wade for another year but I find it odd that he would have done that and REALLY be fully intent on preserving the coaching staff.

There are also allusions to Jerry's open door policy with the players undermining the coaching staff. This is something Galloway and Co love to spew but I have seen zero credible evidence to back this up.

Jerry's work as a GM has been superb.

On the free agency tip he has locked up quality guys like Newman, Romo, Ratliff, Barber, Kosier, Gurode, Columbo, Witten, etc. The feared implosions of Pacman and Tank never materialized and while people may try to play revisionist about 90% of the people on this board just loved the RW11 trade led by Host, theo and stash.

The draft has been excellent the last two years as well. The last Ireland draft was pretty good in getting us Spencer, Folk and Anderson who are all starters but this last year was a pure blockbuster with Jones, Choice, Jenkins, Scandrick, and Bennet all looking to be high caliber players.

Oh and btw aren't GMs supposed to hire the coaching staff too.

Regardless I am tired of all the Jerry fearmongering threads lately. Other than the 'the only constant for the last 12 years' and his refusal so far to fire Wade, what specifics can anyone point to as to WHY Jerry is the problem?

Enough generalities with no supporting evidence. Do you really think that Jerry was more detrimental than Romo, Kosier, Barber, Jones, Holland, Witten, Adams, TNew, RW11, RW18, Davis, Brown, Watkins, Burnett, Spencer, et al missing time and battling through major injuries.

Its easy, and for some people, fun to look to the easy excuse. Its just not that easy. Sorry but there is no panacea of 'fire Wade' or 'Stephen needs to replace Jerry.' There just isn't. Sorry about that.

Oh, ahhmm, if this post was meant as sarcasm, you did a great job. Pretty funny.

If you are really serious about this post then,

 

[bbgun]

Actually I've deleted that many times. This is the first time it has been said to me. If it has gone by without being removed it is because I didn't see it. There is no way I could see everything.

If you've deleted it repeatedly, then maybe it's time to start filtering it. I'm not a mindreader.

It is way worse than shill. I disagree on that. Hell I'm a shill for Roy Williams. maybe Jerry. But not the other word.

No worse than brown-noser, which also gets through.

 

[Hostile]

damn! i wish i didn't miss that one. I just hope we can overcome all this crap and atleast win a playoff game next year cause i'm sick of being losers.

oh and what was the arguement over between you and zrinkill?

LOL

Nors.

 

[Venger]

Jerry, Jerry Jerry. Its so easy to single him out and bash them its not even funny. I see thread after thread and post after post stating that as long as this guy is around its impossible to win. I don't see clear reasons for this just a general consensus with little to no backing.

Little to no backing? This team - the marquee team in all of professional sports - hasn't won a playoff game since the first term of the Clinton administration. Most kids alive today do not have a living memory of watching the Cowboys win a Super Bowl. Or winning a playoff game for that matter. But you claim there is no backing to the notion that Jones, the head of the franchise, the self appointed GM who will tell you he wields absolutely authority in this organization, carries the responsibility for the current state of the Dallas Cowboys? He is rendered blameless only by the cognitively dissonant or obsequious.

Your thread title is failed - a little begging the question eh? Jones makes a good scapegoat, ergo he is a scapegoat and not the party responsible. A scapegoat is someone wrongfully punished for the failings of others. A goat made to take punishment for human sin. Except Jones is the head of the Cowboys football organization. Who else has more control over the direction of this franchise? If he, the man who makes the decisions on everything from what free agent to sign, to the head coach, to what the head coach will do, and how high the head coach has to jump, and who the head coach has to have as his "assistants" - if this man is not to be ultimately held responsible for this franchises failure to produce anything more than a giant goose egg for over a decade, then who is? There is one constant in our current season(s) of discontent - the man responsible for who plays, and who coaches. Jerry Jones. Defending him any longer is a fools errand.

 

[Hostile]

If you've deleted it repeatedly, then maybe it's time to start filtering it. I'm not a mindreader.



No worse than brown-noser, which also gets through.

If it gets to be a problem I guess we will.

I still think it's worse than Switzer, I mean Brown Noser. Freudian slip.

 

[Rampage]

LOL

Nors.

wow! is that thread still on this site?:laugh2:

 

[Batman]

Little to no backing? This team - the marquee team in all of professional sports - hasn't won a playoff game since the first term of the Clinton administration. Most kids alive today do not have a living memory of watching the Cowboys win a Super Bowl. Or winning a playoff game for that matter. But you claim there is no backing to the notion that Jones, the head of the franchise, the self appointed GM who will tell you he wields absolutely authority in this organization, carries the responsibility for the current state of the Dallas Cowboys? He is rendered blameless only by the cognitively dissonant or obsequious.

Your thread title is failed - a little begging the question eh? Jones makes a good scapegoat, ergo he is a scapegoat and not the party responsible. A scapegoat is someone wrongfully punished for the failings of others. A goat made to take punishment for human sin. Except Jones is the head of the Cowboys football organization. Who else has more control over the direction of this franchise? If he, the man who makes the decisions on everything from what free agent to sign, to the head coach, to what the head coach will do, and how high the head coach has to jump, and who the head coach has to have as his "assistants" - if this man is not to be ultimately held responsible for this franchises failure to produce anything more than a giant goose egg for over a decade, then who is? There is one constant in our current season(s) of discontent - the man responsible for who plays, and who coaches. Jerry Jones. Defending him any longer is a fools errand.

:bravo:

 

[bbgun]

It's a sad day when Bengals fans pitch in and beat us to the punch.

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[Bob Sacamano]

If you've deleted it repeatedly, then maybe it's time to start filtering it. I'm not a mindreader.



No worse than brown-noser, which also gets through.

If it gets to be a problem I guess we will.

I still think it's worse than Switzer, I mean Brown Noser. Freudian slip.

soon enough, "bbgun" will be a filtered name :

 

[SultanOfSix]

I notice that you tend to attack whenever you're cornered or feel threatened. You really gotta work on that.

You probably notice a lot of people attacking you. It's most likely the only reaction you do get, from both sexes. But I understand that it is easy to say stuff behind a computer screen and get away with it when your anonymity is not on the line. Freedom of speech, YEAH! Too bad you use it in lieu of human dignity. I'm sure the forefathers would be proud.

Latin, huh? I can't believe I called you a pretentious fop.

Do you have problems reading or something?

I already said stop blaming me for your stupidity. It's not my fault if you've never picked up a crime novel or your average newspaper and read either one. Perhaps you should stick to the comic section and look at all the neat little pictures.

Jerry reads these posts?? If you're referring to other posters, then boo-freaking-hoo. Grow a pair and get in the game. Newsflash: I'm no stranger to being "criticized" and much worse. Hos told me that an unnamed poster (WG?) once threatened my life. Walk a mile in my shoes.

I'm certainly not surprised. I'm sure antagonizing people is easy for you. It's most likely the only thing you're good at.

So so sad. You should turn this sob story into a screenplay.

I'd rather not take the advice of someone who can't read very well.

Is this a sports forum or a self-help seminar? I've helped tons of people with pics for their sigs, if that counts. Probably not.

You certainly are the great humanitarian.

Yeah, you're a real charmer. I'm sure your social calendar is just brimming with exciting events and parties.

Well, we can't be charmers to everyone. Or in your case, to no one.

Oh, I see. No input, opinions, or observations allowed unless I actually own the team. That makes sense.

Sure, if you say so. Perhaps 5th grade reading comprehension was not your forte.

Yawn. You're becoming tedious.

I bet reading is tedious for you too.

That's all you offered. If not hope, then what else is there? At 60-something years of age, Jerry's certainly not going get any smarter than he already is. So that leaves hope[strike]lessness[/strike].

Well. It's better than *****ing and complaining about something you have no power to do anything about. It's not my fault you're not as smart as Jerry at earning money.

Phew!

Was it really difficult to get through reading that?

*****ing after a loss (something you rarely do) doesn't change the final score either, but we do it anyway. It's called venting.

Sure. Normal people do it for a while. Insane people do it constantly.

Might I suggest praying instead?

Why would you suggest something that you've probably never done?

Yeah, you're a regular Good Time Charlie, what with your pleasant personality, playful sense of humor and general sunny outlook.

I bet a lamp post fits the above criteria to you. Call me flattered.

 

[Sarge]

Little to no backing? This team - the marquee team in all of professional sports - hasn't won a playoff game since the first term of the Clinton administration. Most kids alive today do not have a living memory of watching the Cowboys win a Super Bowl. Or winning a playoff game for that matter. But you claim there is no backing to the notion that Jones, the head of the franchise, the self appointed GM who will tell you he wields absolutely authority in this organization, carries the responsibility for the current state of the Dallas Cowboys? He is rendered blameless only by the cognitively dissonant or obsequious.

Your thread title is failed - a little begging the question eh? Jones makes a good scapegoat, ergo he is a scapegoat and not the party responsible. A scapegoat is someone wrongfully punished for the failings of others. A goat made to take punishment for human sin. Except Jones is the head of the Cowboys football organization. Who else has more control over the direction of this franchise? If he, the man who makes the decisions on everything from what free agent to sign, to the head coach, to what the head coach will do, and how high the head coach has to jump, and who the head coach has to have as his "assistants" - if this man is not to be ultimately held responsible for this franchises failure to produce anything more than a giant goose egg for over a decade, then who is? There is one constant in our current season(s) of discontent - the man responsible for who plays, and who coaches. Jerry Jones. Defending him any longer is a fools errand.

Nice post....

 

[bbgun]

Do you have problems reading or something?

I already said stop blaming me for your stupidity. It's not my fault if you've never picked up a crime novel or your average newspaper and read either one. Perhaps you should stick to the comic section and look at all the neat little pictures.

God you're dense. But that hardly qualifies as news.

Wiki:

Modus operandi (often used in the abbreviated forms M.O. or simply Method) is a Latin phrase, approximately translated as "mode of operation."

I'll be giving "reading lessons" from 2-4 on Saturday afternoon. Have mommy drop you off. I'll have a juice box waiting for you.

 

[SultanOfSix]

God you're dense. But that hardly qualifies as news.

Wiki:

Modus operandi (often used in the abbreviated forms M.O. or simply Method) is a Latin phrase, approximately translated as "mode of operation."

I'll be giving "reading lessons" from 2-4 on Saturday afternoon. Have mommy drop you off. I'll have a juice box waiting for you.

Very good. Using a term that is commonplace in the English language regardless of its orgins as exhibited by reading your standard English crime novel or newspaper doesn't make you pretentious.

But, if there is something you know about, I guess it would be pretentiousness.

 

[Hostile]

wow! is that thread still on this site?:laugh2:

It's on iceberg's forum.

Proof that I don't take any of this stuff personal.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Little to no backing? This team - the marquee team in all of professional sports - hasn't won a playoff game since the first term of the Clinton administration. Most kids alive today do not have a living memory of watching the Cowboys win a Super Bowl. Or winning a playoff game for that matter. But you claim there is no backing to the notion that Jones, the head of the franchise, the self appointed GM who will tell you he wields absolutely authority in this organization, carries the responsibility for the current state of the Dallas Cowboys? He is rendered blameless only by the cognitively dissonant or obsequious.

Your thread title is failed - a little begging the question eh? Jones makes a good scapegoat, ergo he is a scapegoat and not the party responsible. A scapegoat is someone wrongfully punished for the failings of others. A goat made to take punishment for human sin. Except Jones is the head of the Cowboys football organization. Who else has more control over the direction of this franchise? If he, the man who makes the decisions on everything from what free agent to sign, to the head coach, to what the head coach will do, and how high the head coach has to jump, and who the head coach has to have as his "assistants" - if this man is not to be ultimately held responsible for this franchises failure to produce anything more than a giant goose egg for over a decade, then who is? There is one constant in our current season(s) of discontent - the man responsible for who plays, and who coaches. Jerry Jones. Defending him any longer is a fools errand.

And with this:

 

[jobberone]

Interesting thread. Protagonists, antagonists, voyeurs, snipers, shills, jocksniffers. It's got it all. Probably get an Oscar.

But it does serve as a beacon. Jerry has got a lot of people pissed with him. As much as I've seen in awhile. Jerry the GM is definitely under fire. I'd say probation and if Jerry the owner doesn't put solid goals on the GM to obtain and then fire him if he doesn't get a majority of them then he's a huge problem. Bigger than having a poor GM.

Ten years ago or so I had a tiny spat with someone here over Jerry. I was spitting venom. Lots. I genuinely despised the man at the time. I vowed to wait him out a few years and see what we'd get.

Jerry did get a reprieve with the hiring of Bill. And it's clear he's learned and the drafts have improved. But he and this franchise are clearly on the firing line or perhaps under the gun.

After a lot of thought I believe I did jump to the wrong conclusions about getting rid of Garrett. Oh, it's true the offense is the problem. And the STs. The defense isn't bulletproof but its stout. That's Wades toy. The organization may still be headed in the right direction. You can't judge this team on this year albeit clearly vastly disappointing. Way too many injuries although therein lies some liability for Jerry, Wade and Garrett.

It would be more dangerous to throw in the towel and lose a few years of these guys careers with rebuilding. The basic plan is a good one and the players are there. The 3-4 is working and Wade is good for it. The offense will improve with the addition of a backup QB probably Beck. The RBs are there and again the WRs. The OL needs depth. Flo and LG was a problem with injuries and depth. That's a critical area. But I don't want to digress into a long critique. Garrett needs a very, very long look at his play calling, timing and overall game plan in a basic sense. He can do it. Will he?

If the coaching staff fails next year in not getting the points, yds, and positive drives with field position then I think you have to doubt their ability to get er done. STs is a GM and coaching failure from not getting ST players in here and paying enough attention to it. I think Read will be a token change although I suspect he didn't get the ammo to do his job.

Next year is important, at least for me, for Jerry to show everyone this franchise is alive and well.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Little to no backing? This team - the marquee team in all of professional sports - hasn't won a playoff game since the first term of the Clinton administration. Most kids alive today do not have a living memory of watching the Cowboys win a Super Bowl. Or winning a playoff game for that matter. But you claim there is no backing to the notion that Jones, the head of the franchise, the self appointed GM who will tell you he wields absolutely authority in this organization, carries the responsibility for the current state of the Dallas Cowboys? He is rendered blameless only by the cognitively dissonant or obsequious.

Your thread title is failed - a little begging the question eh? Jones makes a good scapegoat, ergo he is a scapegoat and not the party responsible. A scapegoat is someone wrongfully punished for the failings of others. A goat made to take punishment for human sin. Except Jones is the head of the Cowboys football organization. Who else has more control over the direction of this franchise? If he, the man who makes the decisions on everything from what free agent to sign, to the head coach, to what the head coach will do, and how high the head coach has to jump, and who the head coach has to have as his "assistants" - if this man is not to be ultimately held responsible for this franchises failure to produce anything more than a giant goose egg for over a decade, then who is? There is one constant in our current season(s) of discontent - the man responsible for who plays, and who coaches. Jerry Jones. Defending him any longer is a fools errand.

I am getting really bored with this. Youre getting accolades for this post when it boils down to the same lame argument. 'We haven't won a playoff game in a long time and Jerry is the GM/owner so therefore it is his fault' and this time its not even worded differently.

Its cute that the mob mentality lauds this as some coup. Its sad really.

If there was a number one reason why we didn't do well last season I would put injuries and Ed Werder up there before Jerry's action as a GM.

Is Jerry free from blame? Of course not but this idea that we can just get some random GM and things will be jolly is intellectually bankrupt.

People want quick simple fixes because its easy and generally people are intellectually lazy. Its also an easy target for people to *****.

OTOH, I tried ro bring up Stephen taking over for his father which is in reality the only other option based in reality that there is. Did people want to talk about that? No of course not they want to ***** and moan about Pacman and Jerry's supposed meddling.

You want to go along with the herd mentality of simpletons then go right ahead. Me? I'll pass.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

If you don't think that Jerry is a major part of the problem here you are on crack. He has been through 4 coaches since his last playoff victory. He has been through numerous players. The only common denominator here is him. No legitimate coach wants to coach here because of HIM!

Wake up *******. We are locked into Romo for years same with TO due to his over eagerness to sign potential stars. When they don't pan out you are stuck with them and the cap.

Really, is that why Bill Parcells came here. Do you really think Mike Shanahan or Mike Holmgren wouldn't come here if Jerry came calling, give me a break. I used to villify Jerry as well especially when he kept dave campo for three seasons but jerry openly admitted he made mistakes and learned from them. If Jerry was just about himself, he wouldn't have hired Parcells or allowed him to bring his own staff and start QB's like Vinny Testaverde.

 

[RainMan]

I am getting really bored with this. Youre getting accolades for this post when it boils down to the same lame argument. 'We haven't won a playoff game in a long time and Jerry is the GM/owner so therefore it is his fault' and this time its not even worded differently.

Its cute that the mob mentality lauds this as some coup. Its sad really.

If there was a number one reason why we didn't do well last season I would put injuries and Ed Werder up there before Jerry's action as a GM.

Is Jerry free from blame? Of course not but this idea that we can just get some random GM and things will be jolly is intellectually bankrupt.

People want quick simple fixes because its easy and generally people are intellectually lazy. Its also an easy target for people to *****.

OTOH, I tried ro bring up Stephen taking over for his father which is in reality the only other option based in reality that there is. Did people want to talk about that? No of course not they want to ***** and moan about Pacman and Jerry's supposed meddling.

You want to go along with the herd mentality of simpletons then go right ahead. Me? I'll pass.

To be honest, I don't care who we blame. Rowdy can be Public Enemy No. 1 for as far as I'm concerned. This team hasn't done much for as long as he's been around, after all.

The end-all point is this: This franchise is stuck in the mud. It's not putrid, as we've been able to put together winning seasons for almost half of the years in this 12-year stretch. We're not the Lions. But we're slipping dangerously close into the oblivion, with a December record the last decade that matches the worst of the worst franchises, and a playoff-winning drought that mirrors those teams as well.

Who's to blame? I'll concede I don't care. I just know the plan in place hasn't worked for a very, very long time. And, yes, when considering the last 12 years, it casts some doubt as if the man in charge -- the one you obviously don't want to place the entire blame on, and perhaps rightfully so -- can lead us out of this spell.

 

[RoadRunner]

Interesting thread. Protagonists, antagonists, voyeurs, snipers, shills, jocksniffers. It's got it all. Probably get an Oscar.

:laugh2: