Jerry Jones weighs in on mistakes from Cowboys' 4-12 run and why he's screaming into his pillow

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Man- its so obvious that jerry loves and cares for the cowboys. As an owner, what more could you ask for. Sure he makes mistakes as a GM, and im sure nobody beats himself more over these mistakes than jerry.

JJones cares, just not about winning......he got spoiled by winning 3 SBs in his first 7 years and now doesn't have that fire.....he may have had it 10-15 years ago but now he is in the legacy building stage...he wants the Stadium and the Star to be monuments to his vision....the SBs are secondary but our fanbase is so rabid regardless....

He takes low cost risks but they come with low rewards.....we didn't even look at guys like Suh, Josh Norman and Eric Weddle...instead we sign Melton, McClain, GHardy and RGregory...the only one that worked was Collins but that had nothing to do with Collins himself
 

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"screaming into his pillow"

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Spaulding doesn't like it when he's denied sprinkles on his special sundaes.
 

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Jerry's the GM in title only. The scouting department and coaching staff play a HUGE role in acquiring players, and Stephen handles the contracts.

Why do so many fans still have trouble grasping this? Oh right, because Jerry's the easiest target by a mile.
 

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The biggest problem with Jerry over the past 20 years is, despite the hyperbole, he's not the worst GM in the league. Not even close. He's not even THAT bad. Unfortunately, mediocrity is its own problem. If he were simply awful, he would probably find it easier to walk away.

It's like a modern-day retelling of the tale of Tantalus. Jerry is always a couple moves from having a legitimate contender. It's always just out of reach.
 

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The biggest problem with Jerry over the past 20 years is, despite the hyperbole, he's not the worst GM in the league. Not even close. He's not even THAT bad. Unfortunately, mediocrity is its own problem. If he were simply awful, he would probably find it easier to walk away.

It's like a modern-day retelling of the tale of Tantalus. Jerry is always a couple moves from having a legitimate contender. It's always just out of reach.

Like they say in MLB, you have to be a pretty good pitcher to lose 20 games in one year, right?
 

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Jerry does want to win. Unfortunately if Dallas doesn't win the sb in the 17-18 18-19 season he won't be here when they do most likely.
 

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JJones cares, just not about winning......he got spoiled by winning 3 SBs in his first 7 years and now doesn't have that fire.....he may have had it 10-15 years ago but now he is in the legacy building stage...he wants the Stadium and the Star to be monuments to his vision....the SBs are secondary but our fanbase is so rabid regardless....

He takes low cost risks but they come with low rewards.....we didn't even look at guys like Suh, Josh Norman and Eric Weddle...instead we sign Melton, McClain, GHardy and RGregory...the only one that worked was Collins but that had nothing to do with Collins himself

We were a heavy bidder on Eric Weddle, btw. We chose not to up the offer when BAL came in with the same number, and he took the money and the chance to be near the big Washington LDS community, instead.
 

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Jerry's the GM in title only. The scouting department and coaching staff play a HUGE role in acquiring players, and Stephen handles the contracts.

Why do so many fans still have trouble grasping this? Oh right, because Jerry's the easiest target by a mile.

If it's the system that is to blame as you suggest, then it's imperative that the system be changed.

I think an empowered, capable and qualified GM should and would attend to doing exactly that.
 
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We were a heavy bidder on Eric Weddle, btw. We chose not to up the offer when BAL came in with the same number, and he took the money and the chance to be near the big Washington LDS community, instead.

The Cowboys have been content to pick at the edges of free agency this month. One of the few high-profile players they appeared to be in discussions with was Eric Weddle.

The safety signed a four-year, $26 million deal with Baltimore that guaranteed half of his contract.

"I guess you could say he's high profile, but we weren't close to the numbers he signed at,'' executive vice president Stephen Jones said. "We weren't.''
 

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I agree 100%. Color me unimpressed by how much money he makes. Color me unimpressed about how "relevant" the Cowboys are.

I totally get in the initial post Jimmy era he wanted to show himself, the fans, other front office executives around the league...that he was a "football man" and could win without Jimmy. But this has gone on long enough. It is the fans that are suffering. I don't enjoy 1 red cent of his billions.

I don't puff my chest out when debating with fans from other teams about being the #1 franchise in the world in terms of monetary value. On the level fans are at...it's about enjoying Sundays cooking out on the grill and cheering your team on. At the end of games...at the end of seasons....it never crosses my mind to say "well...at least we make more money than anyone else"!!!!!

I wish he would have said " I proved my point" when the Cowboys won SB XXX. If he would have went out and hired a real GM and football coach after Switzer left I think he would be more respected by Cowboy fans. As it is now, most give credit to SB XXX to Jimmy.
 

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The Cowboys have been content to pick at the edges of free agency this month. One of the few high-profile players they appeared to be in discussions with was Eric Weddle.

The safety signed a four-year, $26 million deal with Baltimore that guaranteed half of his contract.

"I guess you could say he's high profile, but we weren't close to the numbers he signed at,'' executive vice president Stephen Jones said. "We weren't.''

Then the Cowboys jumped in, making an offer that was almost identical to the Ravens'.

Weddle was overwhelmed. He decided to unwind with five of his high school buddies over a game of Tom Clancy's The Division. As they threw grenades and placed sticky bombs, they discussed Weddle's future in their headsets. Four of them thought he should go to Dallas.

"They were arguing about it," Weddle said. "I couldn't get in a word. I was sitting there, listening."

On Sunday night, Canter made counteroffers to the Cowboys and Ravens. The Ravens increased their offer within 30 minutes.

The Cowboys said they were not prepared to up their offer, but Garrett called Weddle, trying to get him to visit Dallas before making a decision.

Weddle and his wife talked for about an hour before heading to bed. Then they talked for another hour in bed.

Chanel fell asleep, and Eric stayed awake until about 1 a.m., staring at the ceiling and deliberating the Cowboys and Ravens. He kept going back to a few thoughts. The Ravens made the playoffs six of the last eight years. They have a strong culture. They handled the negotiating process professionally and sensitively. And they really wanted him.

Finally, he drifted off to sleep.

"Every time I woke up, I was dreaming about Baltimore," he said. "Baltimore kept popping in my head."

When he rolled out of bed Monday morning, he knew. And he felt a calm about it. He told Chanel he wanted to be a Raven. She agreed it was the right choice. So did Canter.

"When your heart tells you something, you have to go with it," Weddle says.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2625099-inside-eric-weddles-free-agency-chess-match
 

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The Ravens increased their offer within minutes......DAL had JGarrett invite him to a visit(he hadn't been asked before that) but did not increase their offer..... BAL really wanted him and it showed

Sorry, we did make one low ball offer.....but we didn't even take him to dinner...not a strong sell

Now you're just intentionally interpreting the article wrong to try to make your point sound like a good one. Either way, we were the 2nd team in the Weddle deal, and a serious contender. So it's not a good example for you to use to try to prop up a wobbly argument.

This team isn't going to be signing premium FA, anyway. We'll make tactical offers to quality players if we can bring them in at a reasonable price. We'll take low-downside flyers on troubled players if we think we can help moderate them. And we'll focus on adding good young players through the draft so we don't end up paying big premiums in FA. That's been the MO, and that's not going to change. Weddle just happened to be one of the quality players we thought we might be able to land at a reasonable price. After much soul-searching, he shockingly took the higher offer. So it goes.
 

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Now you're just intentionally interpreting the article wrong to try to make your point sound like a good one. Either way, we were the 2nd team in the Weddle deal, and a serious contender. So it's not a good example for you to use to try to prop up a wobbly argument.

This team isn't going to be signing premium FA, anyway. We'll make tactical offers to quality players if we can bring them in at a reasonable price. We'll take low-downside flyers on troubled players if we think we can help moderate them. And we'll focus on adding good young players through the draft so we don't end up paying big premiums in FA. That's been the MO, and that's not going to change. Weddle just happened to be one of the quality players we thought we might be able to land at a reasonable price. After much soul-searching, he shockingly took the higher offer. So it goes.

And you continue to cling to Weddle as some big prize....I just threw him in my original argument because I wanted him and we made a sorry run at him....and keep ignoring the words of the guy to doing the actual negotiations so you can feel better about your pointless argument....

....."we kind of almost made a reasonable offer to a pretty good but older vet FA so all criticisms of DAL's FA strategy is now null and void"......not according to SJones

"I guess you could say he's high profile, but we weren't close to the numbers he signed at,'' executive vice president Stephen Jones said. "We weren't.''
 

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And you continue to cling to Weddle as some big prize....I just threw him in my original argument because I wanted him and we made a sorry run at him....and keep ignoring the words of the guy to doing the actual negotiations so you can feel better about your pointless argument....

....."we kind of almost made a reasonable offer to a pretty good but older vet FA so all criticisms of DAL's FA strategy is now null and void"......not according to SJones

"I guess you could say he's high profile, but we weren't close to the numbers he signed at,'' executive vice president Stephen Jones said. "We weren't.''

I"m doing nothing of the sort. I just pointed out that you used a bad example when you used Weddle.

Now you're backing off on it, which is fine. That's what you should have done in the first place.

In any event, it's not worth debating. Either you buy the Pompei article which clearly shows you used a bad example, or you don't in which case the debate is uninteresting from there on.
 

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I"m doing nothing of the sort. I just pointed out that you used a bad example when you used Weddle.

Now you're backing off on it, which is fine. That's what you should have done in the first place.

In any event, it's not worth debating. Either you buy the Pompei article which clearly shows you used a bad example, or you don't in which case the debate is uninteresting from there on.

you ignore 99% of the truth to pull at the single loose thread showing and still fail......if you think we made a serious run at Weddle then you are fooling yourself....a non-face to face offer starting offer that his video game buddies who weren't financially impacted preferred until it was blown out of the water...so close

its like saying we almost beat NE last year because it was tied after the first quarter
 
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