Sydla
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As we now know, Jerry made the comparison/analogy that it took years for Landry to win a Super Bowl hence, we can't be quick to judge Garrett. Fisher backed Jerry here saying that you don't know who is a SB caliber coach until they actually win one. I think that's such lazy and flawed thinking because if you actually look at the vast history of Super Bowl winning coaches, almost every one had experienced way more success in their first 8 years than Garrett has.
Here what all the SB winning coaches had accomplished by Year 8 with a team:
- Vince Lombardi - Won 3 NFL Championships, 1 Super Bowl win
- Weeb Ewbank - Won 2 NFL Championships (Baltimore), 1 Super Bowl win (Jets)
- Hank Stram - 2 AFL Championships, 1 Super Bowl appearance
- Don McCafferty - 1 Super Bowl, 1 AFC Championship, 2 total AFC Championship game appearances
- Don Shula - 2 Super Bowls, 3 total SB appearances (Miami), 1 NFL Championship, 2 NFL Champ appearances (Baltimore)
- Chuck Noll - 4 AFC Champ game appearances, 2 Super Bowl wins
- John Madden - AFC Championship game appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- Tom Flores - 2 Super Bowl wins
- Bill Walsh - 3 NFC Champ game appearances, 2 SB wins
- Joe Gibbs - 4 NFC Champ game appearances, 3 Super Bowl appearances, 2 Super Bowl wins
- Mike Ditka - 3 NFC Champ game appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- Bill Parcells - 2 Super Bowl wins
- George Seifert - 5 NFC Champ game appearances, 2 Super Bowl wins
- Jimmy Johnson - 2 Super Bowl wins
- Barry Switzer - 2 NFC Champ game appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- Mike Holmgren - 3 NFC Champ game appearances, 2 Super Bowl appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- Mike Shanahan - 2 Super Bowl wins
- Dick Vermeil - 1 Super Bowl appearance (Philly), 1 Super Bowl win (Rams)
- Brian Billick - 1 Super Bowl win
- Bill Belichick - 5 AFC Champ game appearances, 4 Super Bowl appearances, 3 Super Bowl wins
- John Gruden - 1 AFC Champ game appearance (Oakland), 1 Super Bowl win (TB)
- Bill Cowher - 3 AFC Champ game appearances, 1 Super Bowl appearance
- Tony Dungy - 1 NFC Champ appearance (TB), 2 AFC Champ game appearances, 1 Super Bowl win (Indy)
- Tom Coughlin - 2 AFC Champ game appearances (Jax), 2 Super Bowl wins (NYG)
- Mike Tomlin - 2 Super Bowl appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- Sean Payton - 2 NFC Champ game appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- Mike McCarthy - 2 NFC Champ game appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- John Harbaugh - 3 AFC Champ game appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- Pete Carroll - 2 SB appearances, 1 Super Bowl win (SEA)
- Doug Pederson - 1 Super Bowl win
That leaves 2 SB winning coaches - Landry and Kubiak - not on this list.
Kubiak did zero in Houston and was gone after 8 seasons there. He won a SB after his first year in Denver.
Landry, yes, took awhile but he also took over a brand new franchise and had to build it from scratch. But even then, in the history of the SB, you can only really make the case that 2 took a long time to win a SB and did so after exhibiting limited success early in their careers.
Every single SB winning coach other than Kubiak and Landry had at least coached in a SB by Year 8.
So essentially, Jerry is claiming that the anomalies are the model he's basing his decisions on.
Here what all the SB winning coaches had accomplished by Year 8 with a team:
- Vince Lombardi - Won 3 NFL Championships, 1 Super Bowl win
- Weeb Ewbank - Won 2 NFL Championships (Baltimore), 1 Super Bowl win (Jets)
- Hank Stram - 2 AFL Championships, 1 Super Bowl appearance
- Don McCafferty - 1 Super Bowl, 1 AFC Championship, 2 total AFC Championship game appearances
- Don Shula - 2 Super Bowls, 3 total SB appearances (Miami), 1 NFL Championship, 2 NFL Champ appearances (Baltimore)
- Chuck Noll - 4 AFC Champ game appearances, 2 Super Bowl wins
- John Madden - AFC Championship game appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- Tom Flores - 2 Super Bowl wins
- Bill Walsh - 3 NFC Champ game appearances, 2 SB wins
- Joe Gibbs - 4 NFC Champ game appearances, 3 Super Bowl appearances, 2 Super Bowl wins
- Mike Ditka - 3 NFC Champ game appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- Bill Parcells - 2 Super Bowl wins
- George Seifert - 5 NFC Champ game appearances, 2 Super Bowl wins
- Jimmy Johnson - 2 Super Bowl wins
- Barry Switzer - 2 NFC Champ game appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- Mike Holmgren - 3 NFC Champ game appearances, 2 Super Bowl appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- Mike Shanahan - 2 Super Bowl wins
- Dick Vermeil - 1 Super Bowl appearance (Philly), 1 Super Bowl win (Rams)
- Brian Billick - 1 Super Bowl win
- Bill Belichick - 5 AFC Champ game appearances, 4 Super Bowl appearances, 3 Super Bowl wins
- John Gruden - 1 AFC Champ game appearance (Oakland), 1 Super Bowl win (TB)
- Bill Cowher - 3 AFC Champ game appearances, 1 Super Bowl appearance
- Tony Dungy - 1 NFC Champ appearance (TB), 2 AFC Champ game appearances, 1 Super Bowl win (Indy)
- Tom Coughlin - 2 AFC Champ game appearances (Jax), 2 Super Bowl wins (NYG)
- Mike Tomlin - 2 Super Bowl appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- Sean Payton - 2 NFC Champ game appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- Mike McCarthy - 2 NFC Champ game appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- John Harbaugh - 3 AFC Champ game appearances, 1 Super Bowl win
- Pete Carroll - 2 SB appearances, 1 Super Bowl win (SEA)
- Doug Pederson - 1 Super Bowl win
That leaves 2 SB winning coaches - Landry and Kubiak - not on this list.
Kubiak did zero in Houston and was gone after 8 seasons there. He won a SB after his first year in Denver.
Landry, yes, took awhile but he also took over a brand new franchise and had to build it from scratch. But even then, in the history of the SB, you can only really make the case that 2 took a long time to win a SB and did so after exhibiting limited success early in their careers.
Every single SB winning coach other than Kubiak and Landry had at least coached in a SB by Year 8.
So essentially, Jerry is claiming that the anomalies are the model he's basing his decisions on.