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jterrell;2058939 said:
That is simply comical.

Crabtree is a 6'3" 200 pound WR who gets doubled and still makes plays. The other teams key on him and he still sets records.

Tech has created new plays not even in the system just to get him the ball. He is probably the biggest threat in the country because of his size and speed.

Graham Harrell is a system QB but Crabtree would be a star for anyone in any system. He just had a ridiculous physical advantage.

He was the best WR in the country as a freshman. If he was at tamu you'd have his name tattooed on your right butt-cheek:)

The majority of Crabtree's receptions came on the short crossing routes that Mike Leach's offense is built around, with a back or another receiver coming across and setting a pick to get him into the open field. He had quite a few yards after the catch because of this. He put up ******** numbers last season because Tech throws the ball over 80% of the time and the majority of those throws are of the short variety. Tech just doesnt throw the ball downfield that often, their offense is based on short routes and making YAC, which works great in college against smaller, slower, less talented defensive backs.

Point is, he hasnt proven that he can continuously free himself up downfield.

I'm not saying he isnt a good receiver, but he is nowhere near the likes of Calvin Johnson.
 

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cleverusername;2059355 said:
This is not true. Maybe the first QB is the Mike leach system that you can't say this about.

I am so sick of hearing this--- "insert name" is the product of The Texas Tech system.

Bla bla bla. Most of the time the people saying this have no knowledge of the player and are talking out of their butts, repeating something they heard from another DA.

If you have on of the best offenses in the country for the past ten years it is only logical that the best high school prospects will start getting requited to your school.

This is the case for Crabtree. Tech might have sucked in the past but it is starting to produce NFL quality guys in this "System"

Wes Welker was the product of the same system and he's doing ok.

Kliff Kingsbury

Josh Heupel

Sonny Cumbie

Cody Hodges

B.J. Symons

All put up great numbers in Mike Leach's offense. One of them was drafted, and none have ever taken an NFL snap.

Mike Leach's offense focuses on short passes that rely on accuracy. It doesnt take a skilled QB to operate it, just someone who knows where to put the ball. This is why his QBs don't translate to the next level, because none of them are particuarly exceptional QBs, just guys who understood his QB friendly offense. It is, for the lack of a better word, a gimmick offense, much like the run and shoot, only the run and shoot actually produced more long term success in the 80s and 90s.

Likewise for receivers, it's hard to get a good grasp of their true skill at Tech, because the offense is so easy to put up huge numbers in. Wes Welker didnt do much of anything until he played with Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Donte Stallworth and the juggernaut that was the Patriots offense last year.
 

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HeavyHitta31;2059422 said:
The majority of Crabtree's receptions came on the short crossing routes that Mike Leach's offense is built around, with a back or another receiver coming across and setting a pick to get him into the open field. He had quite a few yards after the catch because of this. He put up ******** numbers last season because Tech throws the ball over 80% of the time and the majority of those throws are of the short variety. Tech just doesnt throw the ball downfield that often, their offense is based on short routes and making YAC, which works great in college against smaller, slower, less talented defensive backs.

Point is, he hasnt proven that he can continuously free himself up downfield.

I'm not saying he isnt a good receiver, but he is nowhere near the likes of Calvin Johnson.
Well we can just have you show him the 30 yard slant. No one can stop that route.
 

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HeavyHitta31;2059422 said:
The majority of Crabtree's receptions came on the short crossing routes that Mike Leach's offense is built around, with a back or another receiver coming across and setting a pick to get him into the open field. He had quite a few yards after the catch because of this. He put up ******** numbers last season because Tech throws the ball over 80% of the time and the majority of those throws are of the short variety. Tech just doesnt throw the ball downfield that often, their offense is based on short routes and making YAC, which works great in college against smaller, slower, less talented defensive backs.

Point is, he hasnt proven that he can continuously free himself up downfield.

I'm not saying he isnt a good receiver, but he is nowhere near the likes of Calvin Johnson.

People that say crap like this make me sick. :D

There's no way this guy's not a top 10 pick when he comes out.


Crabtree isn't just a product of a system. A freshman WR who is 6-3 220, with speed, hops, hands, strength and incredible ability after the catch? I mean he CAN'T be a great prospect if he's from the Tech system?

--Yes, he plays at Tech, but he could have went almost anywhere in the country he wanted to coming out of high school. He's only going to get better and bigger, too.

Watch how he catches the ball with his hands, his elusiveness in the open field, how hard he is to tackle, his ups in a jumpball sitution, his balance, etc... he's the total package.

There is a bias toward Tech. The perception about Tech is that "it's the system." Crabtree will win respect by putting up monster numbers in the games that really count -- A&M, Texas and OU. If he does that on a big stage, the national media will take notice. And when Tech keeps winning, they will notice, too.

His numbers might be inflated by Tech's system, but Crabtree is a Calvin Johnson-esque type of talent. He has the size, speed and hands to be a number one receiver in the NFL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPz7caPqoJE
 

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HeavyHitta31;2059442 said:
Kliff Kingsbury

Josh Heupel

Sonny Cumbie

Cody Hodges

B.J. Symons

All put up great numbers in Mike Leach's offense. One of them was drafted, and none have ever taken an NFL snap.

Mike Leach's offense focuses on short passes that rely on accuracy. It doesnt take a skilled QB to operate it, just someone who knows where to put the ball. This is why his QBs don't translate to the next level, because none of them are particuarly exceptional QBs, just guys who understood his QB friendly offense. It is, for the lack of a better word, a gimmick offense, much like the run and shoot, only the run and shoot actually produced more long term success in the 80s and 90s.

Likewise for receivers, it's hard to get a good grasp of their true skill at Tech, because the offense is so easy to put up huge numbers in. Wes Welker didnt do much of anything until he played with Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Donte Stallworth and the juggernaut that was the Patriots offense last year.

I understand your argument.

This might have been true in the past, but things are changing . Leach has done a great job with mediocre talent in the past. Harrell and Crabtree are not on the same level as the guys you mentioned.

Because the Tech program has produced great numbers in the past, we are getting better recruits. These two guys will play in the NFL-- I have no doubt.
 
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