Jerry: We can keep all three DTs

If we keep every one for next year get 2 impact players from the draft 1 great free agent signing I think it might be our best chance to win it all in a long time
 
blueblood70 said:
Hey maybe Clark likes being here gives us a team friendly restructure or I don't know how they're going to do it but it hinges on Clarks participation does he want to compromise...
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I was thinking they could extend him by maybe one year thereby lowering his cap number for 2026.
 
JohnsKey19 said:
I was thinking they could extend him by maybe one year thereby lowering his cap number for 2026.
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They probably will they'll find a way to either work it out or the smart move is there's no dead cap there is zero liability for the Cowboys a flat out release him or you might be get be able to get something in a trade for him I don't know what but he's still tradable if he's willing to rework his contract there's that I mean you literally have an option to try to trade him he is yours up until your deadline ends in the offseason for he becomes totally free...
 
vlad said:
i love how we went for like decades not giving a rat's *** about DT and now we're all in. Maybe one year we'll have like 5 starting caliber safeties. lol
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That would be classic Jerry and it’d come a year or two too late
 
jazzcat22 said:
Other teams do it.
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OK show me more than one team that has three interior defensive lineman all making over $20 million per year AAV?

I keep seeing these other teams do it and then people keep bringing up the Eagles and what they do show me where they all have a $60 million a year quarterback a $39 million starting wide receiver a highly paid left guard A brand new contract with their tight end and now you're saying that we should add Pickens because everyone else has two star receivers no they do not have two highly paid star receivers not two number ones.

There is no president to have about$73 million and that's probably a low number between Lamb and Pickens and now you're saying that they have three that equal 60 million on the interior of the D line that doesn't count the pass rushers...

And we still have to figure out a way to pay Aubrey and our running back Williams..

I realize it's possible but when you say other teams do it I'm sitting here thinking maybe I don't pay attention to all 32 teams but I don't know one of them that has a scenario even close to ours except for maybe the Eagles maybe the Bengals but it's still not close both their wr2 receivers took really number two money...

You have a clear number one making elite money and you have a clear number two making what a top wr2 would make..

But again look at what Prescott makes look at what Tyler Smith makes look at what Ferguson makes Even our fullback got a new deal turpin got a new deal..

I'm thinking nobody in the league has done that yet that would set a new precedent to have three interior defensive lineman as their contracts sit right now all on the same team at the same time and two number one ride receivers making number one money...


I implore you go show me that.

I realize there's some things that you might show me that are close but I don't think any of them have all those scenarios especially with all the fill holes we need to fill on defense....
 
Of course he can do it. This type of cap manipulation/contract structuring coupled with efficient roster churning is how you win SBs in today’s league.

This dude talks out of both sides of his mouth. A few months ago he was selling you can’t keep everybody when talking about Micah’s potential contract and then sings a different tune when talking about the same issue, but a different context.

It just shows he has always, at a base level, understood the Roseman approach to football, he just never had the will, and quite possibly lacks the ability also. That’s a lot of “salary cap balls” to juggle and you can’t be a complete moron or you can destroy an organization’s roster churning flexibility and have a roster full of overpaid, underperforming players. Jerry is quite familiar with the latter. The constant roster churning and aggressive use of void years for star players and important continuity players, not so much.
 
CarolinaFathead said:
Of course he can do it. This type of cap manipulation/contract structuring coupled with efficient roster churning is how you win SBs in today’s league.

This dude talks out of both sides of his mouth. A few months ago he was selling you can’t keep everybody when talking about Micah’s potential contract and then sings a different tune when talking about the same issue, but a different context.

It just shows he has always, at a base level, understood the Roseman approach to football, he just never had the will, and quite possibly lacks the ability also. That’s a lot of “salary cap balls” to juggle and you can’t be a complete moron or you can destroy an organization’s roster churning flexibility and have a roster full of overpaid, underperforming players. Jerry is quite familiar with the latter. The constant roster churning and aggressive use of void years for star players and important continuity players, not so much.
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I understand the frustration ,

I wouldn't say he talks out of the side of his mouth ,he's right, both things can be true, it is difficult for a team to sign everyone..

He wanted to sign Parsons, but at what he considered a true market rate, not blowing the market IE paying Parsons nearly $6 million more than Myles Garrett, that was not in the plans Neither was all the antics that went with it we all know the stories both sides were guilty of this messy divorce.. I would not have given them that money either II know of at least three players I would have on the defensive side of the ball maybe more than that but just at pass rush then him he should not be the highest paid pass rusher in the league but he got it a team wanted it we got the picks and the extra money to do what we've done up to this point...

It wasn't just about money, he would have kept parsons at 40-42 max But once the goal posts move once all the animosity started with all three parties, that thing ended, and I didn't even realize Jerry had a line, and that was the line, The price no longer was going to be met, because it was irreconcilable differences...

So,

when he's saying that he believes he can fit all them in he believes it right now ,at the moment, when he said it, he believes it, but when it comes time to figure this out in the off season and figure out how to fit it all together and still build a roster that's competitive and that would be considered a contender, sometimes you have to make a tough decision, and go back on what you might have said, 2 months before that...


Yes, I get it he talks a lot I get it sometimes he sounds contradictive but sometimes I'm telling you that both things are true he meant it but then he had to change his mind...
 
blueblood70 said:
OK show me more than one team that has three interior defensive lineman all making over $20 million per year AAV?

I keep seeing these other teams do it and then people keep bringing up the Eagles and what they do show me where they all have a $60 million a year quarterback a $39 million starting wide receiver a highly paid left guard A brand new contract with their tight end and now you're saying that we should add Pickens because everyone else has two star receivers no they do not have two highly paid star receivers not two number ones.

There is no president to have about$73 million and that's probably a low number between Lamb and Pickens and now you're saying that they have three that equal 60 million on the interior of the D line that doesn't count the pass rushers...

And we still have to figure out a way to pay Aubrey and our running back Williams..

I realize it's possible but when you say other teams do it I'm sitting here thinking maybe I don't pay attention to all 32 teams but I don't know one of them that has a scenario even close to ours except for maybe the Eagles maybe the Bengals but it's still not close both their wr2 receivers took really number two money...

You have a clear number one making elite money and you have a clear number two making what a top wr2 would make..

But again look at what Prescott makes look at what Tyler Smith makes look at what Ferguson makes Even our fullback got a new deal turpin got a new deal..

I'm thinking nobody in the league has done that yet that would set a new precedent to have three interior defensive lineman as their contracts sit right now all on the same team at the same time and two number one ride receivers making number one money...


I implore you go show me that.

I realize there's some things that you might show me that are close but I don't think any of them have all those scenarios especially with all the fill holes we need to fill on defense....
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I meant play 4 or 5 top players. Or more. Regardless of position.
 
Hawkeye0202 said:
That or let Clark walk and use one of the first round picks for replacement. That way you go cheaper and younger
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Why would they want to let Clark go? I don't get the notion we can simply replace him with a 1st rounder. I would also like us to use our draft picks to go to passrusher DE, corner or even a safety. Those are what we need the most.

So what if we have to restructure. It's money that is well worth spending on right now and just have it as dead money for the future.
 
Robster8989 said:
I'm happy to hear him lately, as he seems to have changed his tune a bit as it relates to the cap.
We can easily keep the team together, and even enhance it in FA.
There are ways to open cap space.
With Clark, I wonder if they might restructure and extend him.
His cap hit is 21.5 next year, and all of it can be saved if we cut him.
His deal was actually structured this way to make that a possibility.
I like Clark, but I don't like him at 21.5, so my hope is we restructure and extend at a fair market value (ST has his value at 10 mil).
The other option is to release him and then sign another vet. I've always thought Shelden Rankins or Shelby Harris (both UFAs) would be good vet additions at reasonable cost, which would keep DT a strength but allow us to allocate some resources elsewhere.
Osa's deal pays him big the first 2 years, then makes it easy to get out of after next season. So that's a plus for us, knowing we can get out of his deal if he's not playing like a 20 mil DT (which he hasn't so far). That may make keeping Clark easier knowing we can escape Osa's deal after next season.

The cap is exploding, and is projected to keep growing.
ST has next years Cap at 307 ( it was just 143 10 years ago, and we had a 2 year downward blip due to Covid). It's likely to hit 400 in just 4 years. The NFL is a cash cow.
We don't even need to go full Eagles on the cap, just some smart restructuring where it makes sense.
It's good to see Jerry speaking this way.
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I totally agree. If we can't get this done than I don't know why we bother competing. This is the best team that we have had for years. Why ruin it. We don't even need to go full Eagles in dead money tactics to make it happen. Just sign them and restructure. Save our draft picks for a position of need.
 
blueblood70 said:
I think he believes that now but it's going to take a heavy restructure and redo of Clarke contract we all know that there's no way they just roll with that contract the way it is...

Hey maybe Clark likes being here gives us a team friendly restructure or I don't know how they're going to do it but it hinges on Clarks participation does he want to compromise...
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They can free up 94M in cap space to start 2026 without touching Clark's contract.
 
blueblood70 said:
I think he believes that now but it's going to take a heavy restructure and redo of Clarke contract we all know that there's no way they just roll with that contract the way it is...

Hey maybe Clark likes being here gives us a team friendly restructure or I don't know how they're going to do it but it hinges on Clarks participation does he want to compromise...
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Clark has an $11 million roster bonus next year. All Dallas has to do is turn that into a different bonus and prorate it out with a couple of void years added. Wouldn't even take adding years to his deal or changing how much he makes. Of course, they'd have to decide whether to keep him in 2027 when he's due an $18 million base. If they want to keep him, they'd actually need to extend him at that point.

But for next year, no compromise is really needed, just a different bonus and with no signing or restructure bonus to pay, changing the roster bonus is the easiest move.
 
xwalker said:
They can free up 94M in cap space to start 2026 without touching Clark's contract.
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There is this as well. Fans get too caught up in the cap when it can be manipulated as the front office sees fit. Only when they don't want to manipulate it do they complain about it.

I just mentioned how with Clark we could turn his $11 million roster bonus into prorated bonus, but there are so many restructures we can do, and several of them are already built into contracts.
 
gimmesix said:
There is this as well. Fans get too caught up in the cap when it can be manipulated as the front office sees fit. Only when they don't want to manipulate it do they complain about it.

I just mentioned how with Clark we could turn his $11 million roster bonus into prorated bonus, but there are so many restructures we can do, and several of them are already built into contracts.
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Teams manage the cap on a multiyear basis.
- The Cowboys don't even need to "June 1st" cut anybody because there are plenty of contracts to restructure.
- Fans get obsessed with issues like June 1st cuts, but those only impact that specific year.
- Teams are concerned about how the cap hits average out over the next 3 years or more.
 
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