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juckie;2700748 said:
I definitely think we get a slot wr/pr in the draft.Something we need bad.This draft is gonna be fun.

I hope so too.

I think this team could benefit from some 'wiggle' at the slot position and on returns.

Hopefully, it's either Hos' guy Mike Thomas or my own preferred choice Johnny Knox.
 

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stasheroo;2700765 said:
Absolutely agree.

But I feel for those who dare to have a negative opinion. They seemed to get bashed more than they should.

For the disappointment adn collapse that was the 2008 season, I think people have a right to ***** and moan a bit.

Doesn't make them any less of a fan or mean they should get lost.

People react differently.

Some come around sooner than others.

After my own huge disgust and disappointment, I've turned my attentions more toward the positives of free agency and the draft.
I often defend people's rights to be negative. I am often negative. My only objection is when you simply can't see both sides, and some fit that bill. To me, extreme homers are as annoying as extreme whiners.

To think a fan forum is going to have people with united views is beyond me. We can't agree on players much less philosophies. Fans are often fiercely loyal to team. You can't tell me that Ohio State fans are going to tell Michigan fans that Michigan is better just because they win a game.

Go to any non-private fan site for any team and Negative Nancy's are going to be less popular to a larger percentage of the membership than Pollyanna's. It's simple math and common sense.
 

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Hostile;2700766 said:
I completely disagree with that. It is incumbent on the O-line and their coaches to keep Romo upright in 2009. In 2007 he proved that he can escape amazing pressure. In 2008 he was not healthy enough to do so.

Our Offense sputtered when we lost his health and it never recovered. That has nothing to do with the Coordinators.

Then we simply agree to disagree.
 

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Hostile;2700778 said:
I often defend people's rights to be negative. I am often negative. My only objection is when you simply can't see both sides, and some fit that bill. To me, extreme homers are as annoying as extreme whiners.

To think a fan forum is going to have people with united views is beyond me. We can't agree on players much less philosophies. Fans are often fiercely loyal to team. You can't tell me that Ohio State fans are going to tell Michigan fans that Michigan is better just because they win a game.

Go to any non-private fan site for any team and Negative Nancy's are going to be less popular to a larger percentage of the membership than Pollyanna's. It's simple math and common sense.

Definitely.

It's certainly more palatable to hear someone say something positive about your favorite team than it is to hear someone rip them.

And I think we all have a bit of the "I can say something bad about my family but you can't" thing going on too.

I think it all goes back to the type of person, either the glass is half full or it's half empty.
 

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Cowboys2008;2700567 said:
I'm just saying, practically nothing is for sure.

if nothing is for sure, as you say, then why assume the worst?
so far we have made the right moves in the off season.
i hope we have a real training camp, but there is reason to be hopeful.
 

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The offense of the Dallas Cowboys has failed us for a long time.

Tell me the last time this offense produced all year long. The 13-3 team failed down the stretch.

We should be able to put up 25+ points a game with the offense we have now with or without TO.
 

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landryscorner;2700408 said:
Our window closed on us last year sorry dude, don't think we will have a stellar season, not happening, restructuring here in dallas??? better believe it.

didnt like the TO move, but Im a cowboy....But as far as as saying the window is closed, I totally disagree. I think injuries was the key problem last year.
 

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YoMick;2700358 said:
Whats funny is... we had a proven product. THAT product put up points.

Without that part of the product we couldnt even score ONE TD..


Laugh it up.
TO is gone. Fine. He had to go.

My concern is this team and winning. Not an agenda thread. TO is gone - we are better.

WE DONT KNOW THAT.

But you apparently know that we're going to be .500 halfway through the season. :rolleyes:
 

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This season will live and die with Garrett. If he chooses to call an offense like he did last year, this team will suffer. Romo can only avoid pressure for so long. Randall Cunningham was one of the greatest scramblers the league has ever produced, probably better than Romo, but it eventually catches up to the team. I hope Wade is breathing down his neck.
 

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miamicowboy21;2700379 said:
What did we win with Owens here, Nothing!!!. We may not be as explosive, but we'll be more efficient. How many crucial passes did he drop. Enough with how great he was it amounted to squat. We should still average between 20-24pts per game with that we still have on offense and that's not including what we'll add in the draft. Were the Dallas Cowboys, not the TERRELL OWENS'S
We haven't won anything with Romo either. You can't win with an average QB who consistently throws and fumbles away the ball.

You can't win with a Coordinator who has an IQ of a rabbit when it comes to offensive coordination, and a head coach who is a puppet even to his coordinator.

You can't win with an unorganized undisciplined offense and defense who continuously commits penalties holding the game back. You can't win with 2 Tackles that freely allows speed rushers to infiltrate the backfield in record time.

You can't win when you've obviously down graded your offensive talent by 50%, explosiveness by 50%, TDs by a large margin.

You can't win with a big stiff at WR, 3 College WRs who can't get separation.

You can't win when you're running around finding 1 person to blame when you'd elected to not look in the mirror at your own awful play and coaching.

I'd be surprised to see us get 7 victories. If we get 7 victories, consider this our Super Bowl.
 

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Judas;2700858 said:
We haven't won anything with Romo either. You can't win with an average QB who consistently throws and fumbles away the ball.

You can't win with a Coordinator who has an IQ of a rabbit when it comes to offensive coordination, and a head coach who is a puppet even to his coordinator.

You can't win with an unorganized undisciplined offense and defense who continuously commits penalties holding the game back. You can't win with 2 Tackles that freely allows speed rushers to infiltrate the backfield in record time.

You can't win when you've obviously down graded your offensive talent by 50%, explosiveness by 50%, TDs by a large margin.

You can't win with a big stiff at WR, 3 College WRs who can't get separation.

You can't win when you're running around finding 1 person to blame when you'd elected to not look in the mirror at your own awful play and coaching.

I'd be surprised to see us get 7 victories. If we get 7 victories, consider this our Super Bowl.
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stasheroo;2700765 said:
Absolutely agree.

But I feel for those who dare to have a negative opinion. They seemed to get bashed more than they should.

For the disappointment adn collapse that was the 2008 season, I think people have a right to ***** and moan a bit.

"A bit"??

Some of these guys have been snarling since January... does there ever come a point where they get all their bile out??

As one of the "bashers" to whom you refer, I'll just say that I let those folks vent for a coupla months, knowing after all this time that I couldn't do anything to stop it... but by now, I'm past fed up with the gloom and doomers, especially the ones who are already predicting gloom and doom for the upcoming season...

That strikes me as ASININE, when at this point none of us could tell you who will be on our 53 man roster... there's still a free agent move or even two available to the team, and a draft to be held... so how can anybody possibly project how good or bad this team will be next season??

Beyond that, I'd argue that each and every loss this offseason has been offset by an addition that is at least equal in talent to the player lost, or in one or two cases, an upgrade... except, of course, for the loss of TO, which I found disappointing but completely understandable...

We replace Brad Johnson with Jon Kitna-- upgrade...

We replaced Zach Thomas with Keith Brooking-- perhaps an upgrade, certainly not a downgrade... I'd call it a wash...

We replaced Roy Williams with Gerald Sensabaugh-- a definite upgrade over the Roy Williams of the last couple of years...

We replaced Chris Canty (who I hated to see go) for Igor Olshansky-- we lose something in the way of pass rush, but gain something in the way of run defense, so this move is also a wash... except when you factor in the contracts both players got, that makes Igor even more attractive...

We lost Tank Johnson, and haven't replaced him yet, but what did he contribute last year??

So again, I say that other than losing TO, we have actually upgraded our talent with our free agent moves this offseason...

Doesn't make them any less of a fan or mean they should get lost.

If you're already quitting on the Cowboys, predicting disaster for the upcoming season, then you are most assuredly less of a fan than I am... I didn't quit on them when they were going 1-15 back in 89...

But of course, I don't really want those snarling now to "get lost", that's just me expressing my contempt for that mindset in the only way that I can without getting an infraction... I'd never say such a thing if I thought there was even a miniscule chance they'd take my advice...

After my own huge disgust and disappointment, I've turned my attentions more toward the positives of free agency and the draft.

That attitude, I can respect... of course I understand why fans are upset over what happened last year, but they're quick to forget that this team was 13-3 just two years ago... there is still a lot of talent on this team, all they need to do is figure out how to start pulling together... to me, getting rid of TO helps them accomplish that... to me, his constant demands to get more "touches" was counterproductive to the overall offense, and I fully expect to see a more balanced offense that may be even more productive than it was 2 years ago... we should have been playing to our strengths last year, those strengths being Barber, Jones and Choice... instead, we were placating a prima donna...

So I've convinced myself that getting rid of TO was a positive, no matter what kind of production he offered (and like others, it surely seemed to me that he was slowing down last year)...
 

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Hostile;2700766 said:
I completely disagree with that. It is incumbent on the O-line and their coaches to keep Romo upright in 2009. In 2007 he proved that he can escape amazing pressure. In 2008 he was not healthy enough to do so.

Our Offense sputtered when we lost his health and it never recovered. That has nothing to do with the Coordinators.

Exactamundo...
 

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Judas;2700858 said:
You can't win with a Coordinator who has an IQ of a rabbit when it comes to offensive coordination,

That comment tells me a lot about YOUR IQ... guess we didn't win 13 games with that coordinator in 2007, and everybody was hailing him as the next great offensive mind in the game, and he was being interviewed for head coaching jobs...

Bet you wouldn't have been insulting him after that season, rendering your criticism right now less than compelling...
 

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stasheroo;2700757 said:
But in my opinion, his issues had more to do with bad decisions and carelessness with the football than they did with being banged up.

Agreed.


stasheroo;2700765 said:
But I feel for those who dare to have a negative opinion. They seemed to get bashed more than they should.



Bashing is good. Bashing of forum-esque.
Dont worry. We have an authority figure rating the IQ's of other forum members.


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silverbear;2700890 said:
That comment tells me a lot about YOUR IQ...
 

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Hostile;2700778 said:
You can't tell me that Ohio State fans are going to tell Michigan fans that Michigan is better just because they win a game.

Pretty safe to say.

:laugh2:
 

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NextGenBoys;2700410 said:
We have Irvins reality show to gain a spot on the Cowboys training camp roster, along some other publicity stunt.

It's still here, just to a lesser degree.

The only thing that will save this team is getting back to the basics. Throwing, catching, tackling, and mechanics. We have the talent. We need to go back to square one.

Don't forget rushing. Three first class runners.

:)
 

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ConcordCowboy;2700968 said:
Pretty safe to say.

:laugh2:


I know ur star QB Tyrell Pryor fairly well,played hoops with him at the gym more than a few times.hes a cool dude,that kid has it made.Hes from where I live,jeannette,Pittsburgh.
 

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juckie;2701082 said:
I know ur star QB Tyrell Pryor fairly well,played hoops with him at the gym more than a few times.hes a cool dude,that kid has it made.Hes from where I live,jeannette,Pittsburgh.

Nice.

I'm really excited about Pryor.

Can't wait to see how he does this year with a full year under his belt.
 

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juckie;2700364 said:
TO was a great asset but time has taken control.It does with everyone.TO has lost a step,and that step is worth a lot in the NFL.TO was not getting open last year.OLINE did suck but TO didnt get open on the short routes cause he isnt laterally quick anymore.He needs a running start.Miles and the lil slot PR/WR we draft willmix the passing game up.
Funny how he didn't seem to lose a step when he bailed out Romo by tackling the guy who intercepted him in the endzone when they played the Packers (despite being knocked down at the 5, he got up and caught up to the guy).

Same game... if he's lost a step and can still run step-for-step with Felix Jones, protecting him from defenders, he's still a step faster than any of the WRs on the roster that can actually get on the field.
 
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