Jerry's changes are working..

[CF74]

Can we see an X-ray?

 

[Stash]

Not sure why that is required since removing him is part of why I think the 2009 team will improve and there is no guarantee Romo can't miss games in 2009, but 24.7 points per game without his 3 starts.

Thanks for the number.

I personally feel that all stats - for everyone involved, should be complately disregarded because of how inept Johnson was when he played.

It was beyond horrible and no one should have their accomplishments and efforts sullied by a quarterback who was no longer capable of playing.

Except for the guy(s) who insisted that Johnson should be here and could still play.

There's the responsible party.

And again, as for the Tony Romo thumb injury excuse, it's funny how it didn't seem to bother him when he carved up the 49'ers, Seahawks, and even the Giants. But it 'flared up' against the Steelers, Ravens, and Eagles.

Sorry, I don't buy that.

And the people who talk about Owens' supposed influence and a poor locker room need to realize that the same owner and coaches who allowed any such problems to occur are still here.

While I don't agree with the team releasing Owens, it's not suddenly bereft of talent. If utilized to their strengths, this offense can still be tough for opponents to handle.

 

[AKATheRake]

Apparently TO gave us 10 points a game all by himself.

No, but he almost gave us 6 a game and helped us move the football 11 to 13 football fields a season just on individual production. You don't think Having T.O helps give Witten a little more breathing room out there either? He had to go but the production will be difficult to replace any way the organization and fans spin it. Get me Torry Holt and we have a better fit for this offense.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Can we at least wait until one minute of one game has been played before we decide that the "changes are working"?

I am exhausted with changes, and new leaves, and new chapters.

It's kind of ironic that the word we heard coming out of that debacle vs the Eagles was "consistency"...now some are applauding the changes.

I think this team is actually moving in the right direction...but I'm not counting on anything until I see it....been down this road one too many times already.

On the nosey

 

[Hostile]

No, but he almost gave us 6 a game and helped us move the football 11 to 13 football fields a season just on individual production. You don't think Having T.O helps give Witten a little more breathing room out there either? He had to go but the production will be difficult to replace any way the organization and fans spin it. Get me Torry Holt and we have a better fit for this offense.

No, he didn't. 10 TDs is 60 points divided by 16 games is 3.8 points per game.

 

[Doomsday101]

Whats funny is... we had a proven product. THAT product put up points.

Without that part of the product we couldnt even score ONE TD..


Laugh it up.
TO is gone. Fine. He had to go.

My concern is this team and winning. Not an agenda thread. TO is gone - we are better.

WE DONT KNOW THAT.

TO put up points by himself? Funny watching the games I could have sworn others made any and all TD to TO possible. Maybe that is what is wrong with the team to much look at me, look at what I did instead of the fact that it took others for TO to accomplish anything.

 

[Hostile]

Thanks for the number.

I personally feel that all stats - for everyone involved, should be complately disregarded because of how inept Johnson was when he played.

It was beyond horrible and no one should have their accomplishments and efforts sullied by a quarterback who was no longer capable of playing.

Except for the guy(s) who insisted that Johnson should be here and could still play.

There's the responsible party.

And again, as for the Tony Romo thumb injury excuse, it's funny how it didn't seem to bother him when he carved up the 49'ers, Seahawks, and even the Giants. But it 'flared up' against the Steelers, Ravens, and Eagles.

Sorry, I don't buy that.

And the people who talk about Owens' supposed influence and a poor locker room need to realize that the same owner and coaches who allowed any such problems to occur are still here.

While I don't agree with the team releasing Owens, it's not suddenly bereft of talent. If utilized to their strengths, this offense can still be tough for opponents to handle.

As I already said it wasn't his thumb and I think after the Giants game the problem was his back and ribs. The Giants beat the holy crap out of him and everyone seems to forget that. How he completed that game is beyond me. Those 3 teams continued the pounding and never let up. I will never understand people who think Tony Romo was healthy in 2008 except for a few games missed. No way, no shape, no how.

 

[Juke99]

On the nosey

Yo...I'm as hopeful as the next guy....but there's a dejavu feeling to all of this...we've been down this road before. Let's wait to see if any of this translates into results on the field...the only place it counts

 

[jswalker1981]

We have Irvins reality show to gain a spot on the Cowboys training camp roster, along some other publicity stunt.

It's still here, just to a lesser degree.

The only thing that will save this team is getting back to the basics. Throwing, catching, tackling, and mechanics. We have the talent. We need to go back to square one.

I heard Ed Werder is going to be all over this.....

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Yo...I'm as hopeful as the next guy....but there's a dejavu feeling to all of this...we've been down this road before. Let's wait to see if any of this translates into results on the field...the only place it counts

So it's ok to be hopeful yet have eyes wide open to see this thing is a fricken mess.

Cool.
Thank you. :laugh2:




Sloppy QB.
Lame Duck HC(oh thats right his contract will be up )
Garrett calling BS gameplans - not adjusting
O-line playing like crap

Lando Calrissian: Problem with your droid?? (droid all busted up in pieces in Chewie's backsack)
Han Solo: No, no problem. Why??

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Can we at least wait until one minute of one game has been played before we decide that the "changes are working"?

I am exhausted with changes, and new leaves, and new chapters.

It's kind of ironic that the word we heard coming out of that debacle vs the Eagles was "consistency"...now some are applauding the changes.

I think this team is actually moving in the right direction...but I'm not counting on anything until I see it....been down this road one too many times already.

Maybe we don't know for sure if the moves are helping.... But if it's fair to complain when Jerry lets TO run wild, blames Tommy Jones for Pacman getting suspended, and tells the world that we love controversy, it's also fair to applaud him when he seemingly tries to reverse some of those mistakes.

 

[Doomsday101]

Maybe we don't know for sure if the moves are helping.... But if it's fair to complain when Jerry lets TO run wild, blames Tommy Jones for Pacman getting suspended, and tells the world that we love controversy, it's also fair to applaud him when he seemingly tries to reverse some of those mistakes.

As in actions speak louder than words. Looking around there is no TO, Pacman,Tank or Roy Williams

 

[Hostile]

I guess I don't get why we shouldn't speculate. Football is fun in part because you can speculate on stuff. Like how a good draft or Free Agent addition can really help your team. How do you know it will help until it actually helps? You don't, but you should be silent about it and not speculate?

I confess, I don't get that. Half the fun of the game is the dreams and the worries.

 

[Juke99]

Maybe we don't know for sure if the moves are helping.... But if it's fair to complain when Jerry lets TO run wild, blames Tommy Jones for Pacman getting suspended, and tells the world that we love controversy, it's also fair to applaud him when he seemingly tries to reverse some of those mistakes.

Yes, ten years ago, I would agree.

But just as quickly, Jerry could spin on a dime and undo everything he's done so far in the off season.

Nope. Been down this road. It's like Lucy pulling the football from Charlie Brown. I'm waiting until I see the ball firmly on a kicking tee.

 

[Juke99]

I guess I don't get why we shouldn't speculate. Football is fun in part because you can speculate on stuff. Like how a good draft or Free Agent addition can really help your team. How do you know it will help until it actually helps? You don't, but you should be silent about it and not speculate?

I confess, I don't get that. Half the fun of the game is the dreams and the worries.

What do you know, you're just a kid.

 

[juck]

I definitely think we get a slot wr/pr in the draft.Something we need bad.This draft is gonna be fun.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Yes, ten years ago, I would agree.

But just as quickly, Jerry could spin on a dime and undo everything he's done so far in the off season.

Nope. Been down this road. It's like Lucy pulling the football from Charlie Brown. I'm waiting until I see the ball firmly on a kicking tee.

Agreed on Jerry.



Now why you gotta bring up the Seattle bobble.

Oh never mind.. no tee involved. :laugh1:

 

[Stash]

As I already said it wasn't his thumb and I think after the Giants game the problem was his back and ribs. The Giants beat the holy crap out of him and everyone seems to forget that. How he completed that game is beyond me. Those 3 teams continued the pounding and never let up. I will never understand people who think Tony Romo was healthy in 2008 except for a few games missed. No way, no shape, no how.

Not you.

Someone else mentioned the thumb as an excuse.

I'm not suggesting Romo was 100%, but at that point of the season, nobody is.

But in my opinion, his issues had more to do with bad decisions and carelessness with the football than they did with being banged up.

But his linemen sure didn't do him any favors and I'd remember that if I were him.

I remember the linemen all taking great pride early in the season when people weren't getting to Romo.

Well they should take the shame in the fact that he was getting smacked around late in the season too.

But it's my opinion that good coordinators affected Romo more than injuries did.

 

[Stash]

I guess I don't get why we shouldn't speculate. Football is fun in part because you can speculate on stuff. Like how a good draft or Free Agent addition can really help your team. How do you know it will help until it actually helps? You don't, but you should be silent about it and not speculate?

I confess, I don't get that. Half the fun of the game is the dreams and the worries.

Absolutely agree.

But I feel for those who dare to have a negative opinion. They seemed to get bashed more than they should.

For the disappointment adn collapse that was the 2008 season, I think people have a right to ***** and moan a bit.

Doesn't make them any less of a fan or mean they should get lost.

People react differently.

Some come around sooner than others.

After my own huge disgust and disappointment, I've turned my attentions more toward the positives of free agency and the draft.

 

[Hostile]

Not you.

Someone else mentioned the thumb as an excuse.

I'm not suggesting Romo was 100%, but at that point of the season, nobody is.

But in my opinion, his issues had more to do with bad decisions and carelessness with the football than they did with being banged up.

But his linemen sure didn't do him any favors and I'd remember that if I were him.

I remember the linemen all taking great pride early in the season when people weren't getting to Romo.

Well they should take the shame in the fact that he was getting smacked around late in the season too.

But it's my opinion that good coordinators affected Romo more than injuries did.

I completely disagree with that. It is incumbent on the O-line and their coaches to keep Romo upright in 2009. In 2007 he proved that he can escape amazing pressure. In 2008 he was not healthy enough to do so.

Our Offense sputtered when we lost his health and it never recovered. That has nothing to do with the Coordinators.