Jerry's desire to win
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Does anyone really want to lose? I mean, the fact that he clearly wants to win, at least for me, means nothing… falls on deaf ears. The fact of the matter is that in the salary cap era, he doesn’t have the faintest idea on how to win.
plasticman
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Well of course he wants to win. Everybody wants to win. Nobody wants to lose.
The real point is whether he is willing to make the commitment and sacrifices needed to win.
He can't buy a championship. He has to earn it as a GM if he is going to be the GM. It's not a part time job. A real GM dedicates almost every waking moment of their lives to building a winning franchise.
NFL GM's do not take time out to promote other events at a stadium. They don't take time out to run non-football related operations within the franchise. They don't look for opportunities to promote the team, make advertisements for other businesses and conduct regular interviews. Their focus is undivided. They want to make decisions and moves that increase the chance of winning. They have to stay focused on the team as well as the other 31 teams.
That's not Jerry Jones. He assumes too many responsibilities not related to the actual team and it sets a poor example.
Jerry coddles teh playes and there is no accountibility.
When it came to Jimmy Johnson, if you didn't feel just as miserable as he did after a loss, then you better be a good actor and pretend you did.
The real point is whether he is willing to make the commitment and sacrifices needed to win.
He can't buy a championship. He has to earn it as a GM if he is going to be the GM. It's not a part time job. A real GM dedicates almost every waking moment of their lives to building a winning franchise.
NFL GM's do not take time out to promote other events at a stadium. They don't take time out to run non-football related operations within the franchise. They don't look for opportunities to promote the team, make advertisements for other businesses and conduct regular interviews. Their focus is undivided. They want to make decisions and moves that increase the chance of winning. They have to stay focused on the team as well as the other 31 teams.
That's not Jerry Jones. He assumes too many responsibilities not related to the actual team and it sets a poor example.
Jerry coddles teh playes and there is no accountibility.
When it came to Jimmy Johnson, if you didn't feel just as miserable as he did after a loss, then you better be a good actor and pretend you did.
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If you’re not good at the job, you’re not good at the job. Saying you wish you were is just arguing semantics on a completely meaningless statement. It’s been 30 years! lol it’s comically ridiculous at this point to still actually buy this. I guess you gotta hang on your hat on something.
Does this little nugget Jerry repeats like clockwork even mean anything? Is it still a surprise when his “desire” isn’t enough?
Does this little nugget Jerry repeats like clockwork even mean anything? Is it still a surprise when his “desire” isn’t enough?
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If Jerry is not willing to do what it takes to win, then his desire to win is highly questionable. Think about it, he has stated that he'd have been fired from any other team as a GM. So, he knows he sucks at it. And yet, despite knowing he is a failure, he insists on retaining the position.
So, no, he doesn't care about winning. His care is about self aggrandizement.
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And you keep ignoring facts to say it. Address the fact that he employs a bad GM and knows that he does, but still insists on it. A man who wants to win does whatever is necessary to win. Jerry does not. So, no, he isn't interested in winning.
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Actually, it's you who is having the problem separating the two. Please address the fact that Jerry insists on keeping a GM who he admits would have been fired by any other franchise. He said it himself. Quit disagreeing w/ no facts and provide an answer to this.
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Lol. It's my opinion.
I find it an incredible waste of time defending my opinion over the internet. The only fact we know is that none of us truly know what goes on inside Jerry's head.
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Early on he wasn’t a football guy. After being a GM for 30 years, that’s changed. Even if he sucks, he’s still a football guy now.
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There should always be a caveat when one says Jerry wants to win.
I do believe Jerry wants to win......................... on his terms, with him making all the decisions. He's desperate to be seen as a football guy, not just an owner.
He wants to win on his terms. When questioned, he often doubles down thinking he'll show all those who question his football acumen.
I do believe Jerry wants to win......................... on his terms, with him making all the decisions. He's desperate to be seen as a football guy, not just an owner.
He wants to win on his terms. When questioned, he often doubles down thinking he'll show all those who question his football acumen.
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Your own statement contradicts the notion that all he wants to do is win. People who will do anything to win don't put their own ego above winning.
He also puts marketing and other things ahead of creating a winning culture.
Any good leader knows in the end they will get credit for whatever the people under them accomplish. Kraft knows this that is why he stayed out of BB's way and is now going to be in the HOF with Jerry. Jerry just wouldn't have gotten all the credit and would have had to share the spotlight with Jimmy.
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Of course, he wants to win more than anyone. Just not enough to get out of the way and bring in a real GM.
tyke1doe
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He wants to win HIS way. That's basically the flaw of mankind as it relates to pride.
I want salvation ... on my own terms.
I want success ... on my own terms.
I want marriage ... on my own terms.
I want sex ... on my own terms.
I want riches ... on my own terms.
I want healthy relationships ... on my own terms.
And on and on and on ...
I want salvation ... on my own terms.
I want success ... on my own terms.
I want marriage ... on my own terms.
I want sex ... on my own terms.
I want riches ... on my own terms.
I want healthy relationships ... on my own terms.
And on and on and on ...
Captain-Crash
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If he could get more art and sell more jerseys at the stadium, he will win.
75boyz
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If winning, but only on his terms is his ultimate goal...
And he has tried for 27 years of doing it his way with no success...
Could he at this stage in life prove to everyone that he is a football guy by changing his ways and allowing an outside GM to step in...?
All the while "claiming that this new changed approach demonstrates how he is in fact a football guy and still deserves the singular credit for the team success because of him recognizing a change needing to be made finally."
In some oddly irrational way, Jerry might think he could sell this as an option to both us fans and to himself.
But I don't think he would ever do it that way though because he's convinced himself he don't need no middle man(GM) or coach if he just signs off on Will's picks because him and Stevie are content to keep waiting on onfield success that's never coming from this same old way of doing things.
Because the cash registers keep flowing regardless so he is still in fact winning in his mind. That's his actual winning mindset imo.
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He would get the credit if he stepped aside and hired a real GM, the credit of coming to his senses in the end.
Shane612
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Stop beat a dead horse. Same topic different year.
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Yep, that was my point as well in my previous post.
Just a little too long winded is all.
You captured my same feeling here in one sentence, lol.
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No it’s not me it’s you who is off base. In Jerry’s mind he is not part of the problem. He is a megalomaniac and thinks the team is better of with him than someone else as GM. It’s like you don’t remember the in charge of everything from socks to jocks comments. You are unable to separate Jerry’s incompetence and misguided thought that he is a good GM with how he feels about winning.
Do not misconstrue my statement as me saying Jerry isn’t the problem because he is. That is not what I’m saying. I’m only addressing the comments that he doesn’t want to win and the people that say he doesn’t want to win are just wrong. Look at the guy during games. It kills him when we lose. Would he be better off hiring someone else? Of course, we all know that, but that isn’t the point in this thread. Now his son feels the same exact way. In their minds seceding control isn’t part of the solution even if it’s an irrational line of thinking.