JG Offense Versus Top 5 Defenses

[Randy White]

This thread has given me tired head. No matter what kind of stats you give to the Garrett haters they will never ever change their mind. It just doesn't matter. They will continue to gripe hoping for him to leave. Then when he leaves and become good elsewhere they will ***** and complain that Jerry let him leave. And then it will all be on Jerry. It's a never ending cycle. I for one am glad that Jason is still here. Sure he had some rough spots but people need to realize the other team has coaches also.

Bingo !

 

[peplaw06]

They were 'hurry-up'. That is why 'hurry-up' offense is even a term in the NFL.

Come on. Now you're just being obtuse. "Hurry up offense" and "no huddle offense" are interchangeable terms.

You can't be in a hurry up offense when you're running the play clock below 10 seconds every time.

 

[peplaw06]

Ah yes, two pro-bowl WRs have no idea how to run routes, one being a HoF receiver, who ran in the same system prior, having a pretty good year. The other, playing in the same system at detroit that Garrett ran. How logical is that. I guess Bennett doesn't know how to run routes, nor does Crayton. So even if we were to assum they don't know how to run routes, whose fault is that? Where is garrett during practice? Whose job is it to make sure everybody gets on the same page? Isn't that the job of the coach?

That was ONE of the reasons I gave. nice try at diverting my point. Do you think RW was running the right routes every play??

But we don't know how to run routes and execute, right? Imagine what this team would do with a competent OC. Thank our lucky stars we have Tony Romo and TO, and Witten. Hell, Garrett is lucky he didn't get the Rams job. Talk about being exposed as pathetic.

Trying to divert the topic again. Is it Garrett's fault when Gurode snaps the ball early? Lemme guess. Yes?? I'm guessing when you burn the fries that it's your managers fault because he didn't stop you from turning the grease up too high.

Keep trying... Do turn-overs happen when offenses are out-of-sync, and players are trying to make things happen? Is there a correlation or not? Simple question....

Not as often as turnovers happen because players are careless with the ball, or the defense makes a good hit. But of course, I guess that's the OC's fault too.

yeah, like HoF receiver's don't know how to run routes is rational, especially in a system he ran last year. Yeah, keep believing it.

Again you try to divert the argument. Fail.

It is Garret's fault, just like our defense not performing was Stewart's fault. When Wade took over, we led the league in sacks and were pressuring the QB like crazy. Thanks to Garrett, and his lack of time management, our defense wore out.

Lol. Well Wade oversees Garrett does he not? Why not blame him. Why not go to the top since Jerry hired Garrett? No one takes personal responsibility anymore.

When are you going to stop making excuses for our coddled players?

 

[khiladi]

Lol. Well Wade oversees Garrett does he not? Why not blame him. Why not go to the top since Jerry hired Garrett? No one takes personal responsibility anymore.

When are you going to stop making excuses for our coddled players?

Why should I blame Wade for something Garrett had total control over? That is why Garrett was made Assistant Head Coach and paid 3 million dollars a year, to coach the offense, not be coddled by Wade. What Wade was in control of was the defense, which he took over and made it lead the league in sacks. Wade did not oversee the offense. Garrett got our franchise QB killed with his deep-vertical passing game.

Keep up with your rhetoric about how I failed. The fact is your argument lost when I brought you consistent three and out suckage by Garrett, and the fact that most of our first downs come on 3 and 10, and very unmanageable situations.

 

[khiladi]

Come on. Now you're just being obtuse. "Hurry up offense" and "no huddle offense" are interchangeable terms.

You can't be in a hurry up offense when you're running the play clock below 10 seconds every time.

Is that why you originally argued that 'no-huddle' is what I meant? When you were proven that is not what I stated, you are now trying to say they are interchangeable. Humorous...

Keep trying to look for a way out... It has already been explained what I meant...

 

[peplaw06]

Is that why you originally argued that 'no-huddle' is what I meant? When you were proven that is not what I stated, you are now trying to say they are interchangeable. Humorous...

Keep trying to look for a way out... It has already been explained what I meant...

Your explanation is not reality. When people say hurry up, they mean no huddle. They don't mean huddle up and take the play clock to 3 seconds before snapping it.

Trying to argue that by hurry up you didn't mean no huddle is just trying to dig yourself out of the hole because you were proven wrong.... it's desperation. I watched the tape, and you read the play by play log. Nothing can replace watching the actual game.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

So can you admit that Dallas moved the ball better against Pittsburgh than all but two teams and we did it at their house in terrible conditions?

Can you admit that if not for an ill advised throw and poor special teams play that Dallas beats Pittsburgh?

Can you admit that Dallas O put up more points than the NY Giants O and Dallas won?

Can you admit as poorly as Romo performed that once he caught fire in the 4th quarter Dallas in all likelihood wins that game if not for an epic melt down by the defense and not the offense?

Can you admit...? Can you admit...? Can you admit...?

STIFLE IT!

Can you admit that dallas' offense FAILED to play well enough ot make the playoffs?

Can you admit that once Garret had his "I called that meeting" meeting with his WRs the offense completely shut down?

Can you admit....,,,, PLEASE! Spare me the "offense" apologies!

 

[gbrittain]

Can you admit...? Can you admit...? Can you admit...?

STIFLE IT!

Can you admit that dallas' offense FAILED to play well enough ot make the playoffs?

Can you admit that once Garret had his "I called that meeting" meeting with his WRs the offense completely shut down?

Can you admit....,,,, PLEASE! Spare me the "offense" apologies!

So basically you got nothing. Dallas did not make the playoffs so Jason Garrett sucks. Gotcha.

Not the players fault. Not the defense fault. Not special teams fault. Garrett's fault. That is what you got.

 

[Rack]

How many points did we score vs those teams and how many turnovers did we commit?


Those are more important then yards.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

So basically you got nothing. Dallas did not make the playoffs so Jason Garrett sucks. Gotcha.

Not the players fault. Not the defense fault. Not special teams fault. Garrett's fault. That is what you got.

Sure whatever you wanna believe. Garrett's great, he's from Princeton! Has red hair; rare for hte NFL. Glad we got him, YEAH! Hey gbrittain, grab a pom-pom!

 

[jobberone]

Sometimes the devil is in the details. But this game is rather simple for most of it. You need to score 25+ points a game and give up less than 17. If you do that you will be in most games. Esp if you play a controlled offense even with deep strike capability.

It is more than a coincidence we scored around the 17 pts a game and gave up about the 25+ points a game against the best teams in the league. That's damning. The offense failed. Period. Now you want to debate why then you have to look deep. But the offense failed the end of last year and most of this year.

Our defense is close but they are not consistent enough for one. They don't produce turnovers which is taught in practice. They don't tackle well enough. Still they are closer IMO than the offense. The last problem is they do not come up with enough stops when they have to. One mark of a great defense is the ability to make plays and stop drives.

It's still not all offense and some defense. The STs suck. And I don't use that word often.

This team is not a championship club and the talent on it is not what we thought it was.

 

[bysbox1]

This thread has given me tired head. No matter what kind of stats you give to the Garrett haters they will never ever change their mind. It just doesn't matter. They will continue to gripe hoping for him to leave. Then when he leaves and become good elsewhere they will ***** and complain that Jerry let him leave. And then it will all be on Jerry. It's a never ending cycle. I for one am glad that Jason is still here. Sure he had some rough spots but people need to realize the other team has coaches also.

And if he stays and we have a 5-11 season next year and the offense still looks pathetic, the Garrett supporters will still be hoping he stays. They will state that the talent we have is not gelling as a team, or that he may be better suited at HC than OC. And those supporters will be complaining that we have all this talent and we're not in the playoffs again.

But the good news is we will have a top 10 draft pick. And it will all be on Jerry.

You see the candle burns at both ends.

 

[gbrittain]

Sure whatever you wanna believe. Garrett's great, he's from Princeton! Has red hair; rare for hte NFL. Glad we got him, YEAH! Hey gbrittain, grab a pom-pom!

You sure provided some objective analysis to this thread. Proceed with your blind hate by all means.

 

[khiladi]

Your explanation is not reality. When people say hurry up, they mean no huddle. They don't mean huddle up and take the play clock to 3 seconds before snapping it.


Trying to argue that by hurry up you didn't mean no huddle is just trying to dig yourself out of the hole because you were proven wrong.... it's desperation. I watched the tape, and you read the play by play log. Nothing can replace watching the actual game.

Everything is an excuse for Garrett for you... One more time: 3 and 10 is a consistent staple of this offense. Whether I want to waste my time to watch that atrocity of OC game-calling has no bearing on the fact that Garrett puts us in unmanageable 3 and long situations, over and over and over again. I saw it with my own eyes when I saw the game THE FIRST TIME. You can't deny it. The statistics further consistently back it up. You then claim poor routes, when out poor routes are run by premier WRs, one a Hof, another a pro-Bowler who actually played in the same system in Detroit. There is also Tony Romo who threw Garrett under the bus, and he has never thrown anybody under the bus.There was never any desparation from my part either. I stated what I meant from the very beginning, and it was you that changed the course of the argument by arguing that what I meant by hurry-up was no-huddle, because you had no legitimate argument. Now you go from 10 seconds to 3 seconds before the snap...Amazing, how your 'standards' keep changing...

 

[dwmyers]

The Dallas Cowboys had the most offensive talent in the NFL and did average to below average with it.

because of injuries..

A #1 WR and a Hall of Fame WR,

No injuries here but no OC can stop "butterfingers" from dropping his share of passes..

1 Pro Bowl and 2 high quality Running Backs

1 lost season and one serious injury mid-way through the season.

, 3 Pro Bowl O-Lineman,

Kyle Kosier's injury, then later Montrae Holland's injury left Flo out on an island..

That Flo got injured too..

All-Pro TE

injured..

and a Pro-Bowl QB

injured.. lost games, couldn't throw effectively beyond 20 yards by the end of the season.

and Super Bowl Back-up QB.

too old.

Oh and the highest paid hottest Offensive Coordinator in the league leading them. So what’s the excuse again?

uhm.. injuries?

David.