Jim Nagy: 2025 is the strongest RB class in many years

[Cowboyny]

Give me Hampton or Johnson, we need a true Bell Cow and find a speed complement for change of pace.

 

[TasteMyScythe]

I like Hampton the most outside of Jeanty, but he is most likely going to be the second back off the board, most likely early second. But another RB that I like that might just be the most dynamic back in the draft is RJ Harvey (5-9, 210 lbs. 4.4) from UCF.

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/RJ-Harvey-RB-UCF

He will test well at the combine, but he does lack pass protection and being a little smaller the question will be how well he can hold up at the next level. Day three pick (3/4 round).

 

[gtb1943]

I like Hampton the most outside of Jeanty, but he is most likely going to be the second back off the board, most likely early second. But another RB that I like that might just be the most dynamic back in the draft is RJ Harvey (5-9, 210 lbs. 4.4) from UCF.

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/RJ-Harvey-RB-UCF

He will test well at the combine, but he does lack pass protection and being a little smaller the question will be how well he can hold up at the next level. Day three pick (3/4 round).

for being that short he is fairly heavy; and also being that short means its harder to get a good hit on him
pass protection for a back is mainly want to; does he show that? IF so, then he just needs to be taught.

 

[cnuball21]

Give me Hampton or Johnson, we need a true Bell Cow and find a speed complement for change of pace.

Both studs…there’s close to 10 RBs I’d be happy with. I’d be fine signing Dowdle short term and taking a RB in the 3rd or trading up into the 4th.

 

[Cowboyny]

Both studs…there’s close to 10 RBs I’d be happy with. I’d be fine signing Dowdle short term and taking a RB in the 3rd or trading up into the 4th.

Just like fixing their run defense, have to be able to run the football again. They are going to need a quality, high end back and fix their scheme

 

[cnuball21]

Just like fixing their run defense, have to be able to run the football again. They are going to need a quality, high end back and fix their scheme

Agree - but I think that can be done with improved OL play and scheme.

 

[Cowboyny]

Agree - but I think that can be done with improved OL play and scheme.

You need a high end back too, not a rotational type

 

[Hawkeye0202]

The problem is we don't have a 4th-round pick. You are not drafting an RB with the 1st-round pick unless it's Jeanty. Passing on the 2nd and 3rd rounds leaves the 5th which probably means no upgrade from Rico.

 

[cnuball21]

You need a high end back too, not a rotational type

Sure I just don’t think you take him in the 1st. I think we just disagree on that. I just saw an UDFA lead the league in rushing for several weeks in SF.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I just saw an UDFA lead the league in rushing for several weeks in SF.

Small sample.......
On the other hand, the Eagles stole a top draft pick from the Giants, who are in the MVP conversation. I agree we don't need a franchise RB but you seem to think ( correct me if I'm wrong ) we can find a starting high-level RB from the bottom of the draft - free agent signing and I'm not sure about that, especially for a complete 3-down back.

 

[cnuball21]

Small sample.......
On the other hand, the Eagles stole a top draft pick from the Giants, who are in the MVP conversation. I agree we don't need a franchise RB but you seem to think ( correct me if I'm wrong ) we can find a starting high-level RB from the bottom of the draft - free agent signing and I'm not sure about that, especially for a complete 3-down back.

I think we can find someone who can be above average in the mid rounds, pair them with Rico, and have a top 12 ish type rushing attack.

This is dependent on the OL getting better and improvements in scheme of course.

 

[Cowboyny]

Sure I just don’t think you take him in the 1st. I think we just disagree on that. I just saw an UDFA lead the league in rushing for several weeks in SF.

I agree, I do not want a 1st rd rb, but after that, a high-end back would be in play. You cannot compare SFO with us, they have an elite rushing scheme in which his father used to draft late backs every year and still get 1k runners. Just look at the contenders in the conference: McC, Gibbs, Barkley, etc. You cannot just put any old back in there and expect to become a good rushing team!

 

[Cowboyny]

Small sample.......
On the other hand, the Eagles stole a top draft pick from the Giants, who are in the MVP conversation. I agree we don't need a franchise RB but you seem to think ( correct me if I'm wrong ) we can find a starting high-level RB from the bottom of the draft - free agent signing and I'm not sure about that, especially for a complete 3-down back.

First of all, we aren't good enough passing team to have an average, to slight above average rushing attack. Look at the teams inside the conference, we cannot compete against the Lions, 49ers, Eagles offensive weapons. Not only do they all have elite receiving options, but elite rushing attacks with talented runners. We employ Dowdle, a former ps special teamer with Jalen Tolbert as our #2 receiver, it's laughable compared to the other teams!

 

[gtb1943]

we have three fifth rd picks. since your average fifth round pick has little chance of making the roster, trade up to the fourth with two of them. One through four is where the vast majority of starters and complimentary players in the league come from.

our fifth rd picks are going to be worth a lot more than other teams so I see that as a way to go.

 

[SportsGuru80]

Give me Hampton or Johnson, we need a true Bell Cow and find a speed complement for change of pace.

I like Hampton as well.

 

[exciter]

That I think is what happened with Zeke. He had like 1800 carries I think in College. A back just has so many in him; outside of freaks like Peterson and Frank Gore I think it maxes out at 4000. IF you look at Zeke, that is about where he fell off the cliff.
That and age also. Henry I think has maybe one more year before he is sinking.
So getting a low mileage RB is your best bet out of college.

Henry was sinking last year. He literally fell into the best situation for him. Outside of the Ravens he’s averaging the same 68 yards per game as last season!

 

[gtb1943]

Henry was sinking last year. He literally fell into the best situation for him. Outside of the Ravens he’s averaging the same 68 yards per game as last season!

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might want to go over this post again
he is on course to just be under 2000 yds this season

 

[exciter]

?
might want to go over this post again
he is on course to just be under 2000 yds this season

Yes, and again he averaged 68 yards per game last season and that was padded by the last game of the season collapse of the Jaguars defense. You really think he’d be having the season he’s having anywhere else without the duel running threat!

 

[tm1119]

Yes, and again he averaged 68 yards per game last season and that was padded by the last game of the season collapse of the Jaguars defense. You really think he’d be having the season he’s having anywhere else without the duel running threat!

And you don’t think there’s a reasonable middle ground between the Ravens offense and the Titans 2023 offense?

 

[exciter]

And you don’t think there’s a reasonable middle ground between the Ravens offense and the Titans 2023 offense?

I’d say it leans towards the the Titans!