Jimmy Johnson doesn't see how the Cowboys' hiring of the pass-happy Scott Linehan helps run game

[Zordon]

If we're trying to build an OL that mauls people, remind me again why we didn't have Larry Warford on our board last year?

Because he didn't fit Callahan's system. You know the same Callahan who doesn't want to be here anymore. Cowboys = shortsighted thinking.

 

[links18]

I don't think Linehan's hire was ever about the run game. That's linear thinking. Hire a new OC who will emphasize the run? Why would Garrett do that? It's never been part of his offensive philosophy and while folks can gripe about it, it's not gonna change in 2014 either. That's not the team's identity.

Hiring Linehan was all about getting someone who shares his offensive philosophy and who could potentially make this offensive more dynamic than what it's been...and definitely more than what it was in 2013.

What is this team's identity?

 

[WoodysGirl]

What is this team's identity?

Pass happy and consistently inconsistent

But I think Sturm called them Finesse, so I'm gonna go with that.

 

[dfense]

Don't put former Cowboys coach Jimmy Johnson down as a fan of the Cowboys' expected decision to add Scott Linehan as passing game coordinator and play caller.

Johnson said Linehan's history as a pass happy play caller does nothing to help a Cowboys team that already has a problem with a lack of commitment to the run. The Cowboys finished 31st in the league in rushing attempts last season one year after setting a team record for fewest attempts in a season.

"The only thing that concerns me is Linehan is not known for being a guy that’s going to run the football," Johnson said at Super Bowl media day Tuesday. "That’s kind of been a little bit of a problem with the Cowboys in the past that they’ve got a great running back in DeMarco Murray and, I mean, I don’t know. Are they going to run the ball more or less? Who can tell? We’ll only know a year from now. But it does concern you a little bit."

Read more here: http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...tt-linehan-helps-run-game-.html#storylink=cpy

The time for your opinions expired when you ditched the team a long time ago Jiimmy. You and your ego are highly responsible for ruining a 4 straight SB run in Dallas. Now, nobody cares what you think. There's still fish for you to catch. Go do it.

 

[jobberone]

Remember you asked me about my comment in the other thread about how disrespectful some are on this site towards past legends. Casmith's comment is an example of what I was referring to.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/anyo...ore-a-cowboys-logo.282035/page-2#post-5430251

You can be disrespectful within the guidelines to people outside this site although I wouldn't be excessive with it. You cannot attack other people on this site although you can respectfully disagree with them.

Here's the link you posted:

↑ @Zordon said:
Cowboyszone is a very unique site. Only place I know that routinely disrespects its legends. You guys hate Deion, you hate Emmitt b/c of the "diamond" comment, you guys call 3 time Super Bowl winner Troy Aikman overrated and Romo a superior player, you guys prop up losers like Ware when comparing him to Charles Haley, Garrett is compared to Tom Landry, etc...etc...this site can be a very weird place sometimes.

@jobberone said:
This is an odd comment coming from you.

And I've never seen Garrett viewed in the same light as Tom Landry. Comparing the two in some aspects might be appropriate but I've never seen anyone say Garrett is a Tom Landry. If that's what you meant.

All I was saying is your being critical of other people being critical of other people is ironic.


There is no need to gather I gotcha's around here. We don't put a lot of stock in that.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Remember you asked me about my comment in the other thread about how disrespectful some are on this site towards past legends. Casmith's comment is an example of what I was referring to.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/anyo...ore-a-cowboys-logo.282035/page-2#post-5430251

Personally, I don't find it any different than when fans dog out players who have individually performed at a high level for the team for years, but the overall team hasn't been able to get over the playoff hump.

The disrespect is all the same to me. *shrug*

 

[jobberone]

Like it or not (I'm still having a hard time with it personally) the passing game is what wins football games in today's NFL. It's not unusual to see a potent offense go the length of the field in 4-5 plays and that's not always us. Of course the best defenses make that difficult although not entirely unlikely.

@AdamJT13 has been saying this for years and others have climbed aboard the winning formula 'we pass better than you pass'. You need to run the ball effectively if you want a potent offense.

 

[jazzcat22]

I will still listen to what Jimmy has to say. However sometimes I take it with a grain of salt. As he has been out of coaching for a long time. Maybe this was a first reaction and responded that way because of being out of coaching. But I can see why he said it.
Jimmy actually at the beginning of the season seemed to be on the Cowboys bandwagon.

Thing that gets me are the people that think he can come back in and coach right away. When with the cowboys, it was like the perfect storm of coaching and PLAYERS, need those more than coaching. And don't forget the GM at the time Jerry, he was involved too.
Jimmy goes to Miami, didn't have that success. But a combination of things, salary cap the biggest reason, not as much talent, and maybe not as good of coaches as he had in Dallas.

But I would still listen to him now. People are going to side with any reporter if they report they way they think too.
I'm sure there are some people that hang on to Ed Werder's every last word, because the team they claim to love, they hate, and want to complain, and rightfully so at times. So he gives them a reason to.

Anyway, Jimmy still has the knowledge it hasn't left him, but TV can make you say certain things either way.
He's been a winner everywhere he's been.

Oklahoma State 29-25-3, 1-0 in Bowl games, Bluebonnet Bowl, his last year there, 5 years
U. of Miami 81-34-3, 2-3 in Bowl Games, National Championship, 5 years
Dallas Cowboys 44-36, 7-1 in playoffs, 3 SB's, the 1-15 season brought this win / loss pct down, 5 years
Miami Dolphins 36-28, 2-3 in playoffs, worse year 8-8, 4 years

 

[Chocolate Lab]

How can what Jimmy said be controversial in any way? All he said is that you don't solve a pass-happy problem by bringing in a pass-happy playcaller. He didn't say anything remotely outrageous for people to question him the way some are in this thread.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Jimmy hasn't coached in the NFL in almost 20 years.

One day, we'll move on and realize he's nothing but a TV pundit.







#TeamJerry

Your coaching reume?

 

[jobberone]

Because he didn't fit Callahan's system. You know the same Callahan who doesn't want to be here anymore. Cowboys = shortsighted thinking.

No. Callahan got the OL into a very good unit using ZBS well. So great hire. Many of you were moaning about the OL being so terrible, Free sucked, Mack sucked, Tyron wasn't setting the world on fire, Costa was a mini TRex who couldn't block, yada yada. And looked what happened. And that's why they don't want him to leave. I didn't think the Callahan calling plays was a good idea but I thought it was a decent shot worth trying. They didn't like it enough and along comes Garrett's guy Linehan. It's just that simple. No stupidity or illogical thinking. It's doing the best with what you have which is generally not ideal.

I'm happy Callahan is still here. I HOPE Linehan is a bit better with the play calling.

The bigger problem is execution. I'm hoping they understand they have a good or better OL and take it out for a spin. But how well the defense plays will determine how far we go. And the defense's ability to stop people will play a role in how the play calling goes.

 

[jobberone]

How can what Jimmy said be controversial in any way? All he said is that you don't solve a pass-happy problem by bringing in a pass-happy playcaller. He didn't say anything remotely outrageous for people to question him the way some are in this thread.

I agree. I don't have a problem with what he said. I just don't agree we are always pass happy although I think we should run the ball more effectively.

 

[links18]

How can what Jimmy said be controversial in any way? All he said is that you don't solve a pass-happy problem by bringing in a pass-happy playcaller. He didn't say anything remotely outrageous for people to question him the way some are in this thread.

He criticized something the team did. Circle the wagons time.........

 

[Idgit]

He criticized something the team did. Circle the wagons time.........

Wagons? Circle the wagon, maybe. Jimmy gets his props. Not because he's a Cowboy legend, but because he's a coaching legend. Now, I apparently disagree with him about the importance of running the ball more often--I'm happy to see us do it to sustain drives where appropriate and if and when we've already won or are clearly going to win the passing effectiveness differential battle, but not until.

That said, there's no saying Linehan wouldn't also agree with running the ball in that circumstance. I think most NFL offensive coaches who got a big lead throwing it and who felt they could rely on their pass defense to sustain the big lead would elect to run the ball. Linehan wasn't really in that position all that much in Detroit, recently. He won't be in Dallas, either, if we're not successful adding enough talent on the other side of the ball this offseason.

 

[links18]

I think most NFL offensive coaches who got a big lead throwing it and who felt they could rely on their pass defense to sustain the big lead would elect to run the ball .

It seems that was a foreign concept to whoever was calling the plays against Green Bay.

 

[Idgit]

It seems that was a foreign concept to whoever was calling the plays against Green Bay.

Not until we were down to the 4th string MLB, with zero pass rush, playing too much zone, with a full half of football left to go. That's why I put in the 'who felt they could rely on their pass defense' part. As soon as we gave up the huge run on the first drive of the 3rd quarter, you could see we were going to have to keep scoring to win that game. And then, turnovers will get you beat. If you're going to have to pass, you have to pass effectively. If you're winning and don't have to pass, you can run it, but you have to pass defend effectively. If you can't pass effectively, and you can't pass defend effectively, you're going to lose. That's what happened in the second half of that GB game. The issue wasn't play calling.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Yeah, what do Jimma know? Rebuilding a team from the Landry/Schram wreckage and winning 2 Lombardini Trophies and a 3rd if he had wanted to is no big deal. What does he knows about offensive football?

But if Linehan is as Jimma say, a pass-happy kind of guy, then it is a really valid comment. A comment I am sure many of you wish had made but half not or could not half grasped.

 

[links18]

Not until we were down to the 4th string MLB, with zero pass rush, playing too much zone, with a full half of football left to go. That's why I put in the 'who felt they could rely on their pass defense' part. As soon as we gave up the huge run on the first drive of the 3rd quarter, you could see we were going to have to keep scoring to win that game. And then, turnovers will get you beat. If you're going to have to pass, you have to pass effectively. If you're winning and don't have to pass, you can run it, but you have to pass defend effectively. If you can't pass effectively, and you can't pass defend effectively, you're going to lose. That's what happened in the second half of that GB game. The issue wasn't play calling.

Your position is that the play calling was fine in the Green Bay game? I think Aikman called it "inexcusable," or was it "bizzare"? I can't remember.

 

[coult44]

I stopped listening to Jimster a while back.

Besides, Jimmy is a defensive coach.

What's he worried about.

Listen..

until DeMarco Murray finally finished as season healthy..

his first in like 4 years..

nobody in Dallas trusted this OL to block.

So the only thing to do was ride Romo's arm..Witten's and Dez' legs..

..and hope things worked out.

Now..Murray has made the Pro Bowl and he's established he can do it.

Of course..it helps the team has committed it's last two #1draft picks at tackle and center to open holes to run thru.

So before we all get convinced the play callers won't run it..

Let's see.

Any time someone that was formerly with the train wreck says something about the current situation, they all of a sudden don't know anything. From Jimmy to Troy and from Prime Time to Roger, if they say anything bad about what Al Davis is doing, people in here find a reason to discredit then. It's laughable!!!

 

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