JJT: Cowboys don't have running back to match their philosophy

[DandyDon52]

I have no idea where they came up with that figure although if you count cancellous bone and marrow you will find water. The part of bone we're discussing is called cortical bone and is a matrix of connective tissue with little water and calcium hydoxylapatite which does have hydroxyl groups but not H2O per se. Cortical bone is what supports the body and this is what is breaking. Brittle bones are ones which are not dense enough and there isn't enough calcium phosphate in the form of calcium hydroxylapatite. This is known as osteoporosis. Adding water to bone, if one could, would make it more pliable and less dense.

If you're going to look for scientific facts I suggest reading in appropriate places and not health forums generally written by laypersons. That's not meant in a condescending way either but just good advice to those seeking science on the internet.

One cannot hydrate their bones and if they could I would advise them not to.

Ok you could be right , but is it coincidence he broke the bone after being dehydrated?
They never showed how it happened, I tried to spot it but whatever happened he was off camera, or
did not realize it when it happened.
Does anyone know what happened to break the bone?

 

[jobberone]

Ok you could be right , but is it coincidence he broke the bone after being dehydrated?
They never showed how it happened, I tried to spot it but whatever happened he was off camera, or
did not realize it when it happened.
Does anyone know what happened to break the bone?

Yes. He landed on his shoulder or the head of the humerus. This transmits the force to the clavicle which often breaks in that mechanism of injury in the distal 1/3 of the clavicle.

 

[jobberone]

Percy gave some stats concerning third and one and the percentage of rushing success. I remember another stat from a couple weeks ago showing that Dallas was one of the worst in the league on third and short yardage situations which would be third and three , etc. I assume that is the stats you are talking about .a quick check did show that the team was the 27th worse on third down conversions as a whole.

I found plenty of stats supporting that the team was ranked in the 20's on rushing third down down conversions , but there is a stat for about anything. The result was 4-12 anyway you look at it . There is no sugar coating that. The offense was no threat at all in the rushing or passing game.

it's more complicated than just a few stats. But we ran the ball effectively last year by all the stats I've seen as well as my eyeball. It wasn't the running game but the lack of a QB that killed us. And that is a much more complicated subject although it all boils down to no Romo=no good.

 

[Idgit]

The fact the team spent an entire week trying to bring Murray back tells me they believe there was a significant drop in the RB play

So the idea that the RB position had nothing to do with us losing last year is false, obviously the organization feels that Murray was significantly better, otherwise we spend a week trying to bring him back?

Did you mean to type that they spent an entire week not ultimately bringing Murray back? If it was that important, wouldnt they have gotten it done?

 

[big dog cowboy]

The fact the team spent an entire week trying to bring Murray back

We made no offer to get Murray back.

 

[percyhoward]

I hate to tell you , but there was no defense's that feared DMac. To have the stats that he put up, he was not a factor.

You act like that's not normal. These are the teams that had a 1,000-yard rusher in 2015. Count their playoff wins.

Vikings
Bucs
Rams
Cowboys
Jets
Raiders
Falcons

Only two of the above teams had a winning record. That doesn't take anything away from the accomplishments of those backs or their OL. Those were all good running games. Defenses cheated toward the run against us, and we were still effective. Rushing success by itself simply doesn't equate to winning.

 

[visionary]

Did you mean to type that they spent an entire week not ultimately bringing Murray back? If it was that important, wouldnt they have gotten it done?

Exactly

Just like spending time trying to bring in Weddle, Robinson, Carroll, etc. All unimportant obviously since we were not able to get it done

Maybe our FO needs to spend more time on doing stuff they consider "important" rather than waste it on the "unimportant " stuff

 

[Idgit]

Exactly

Just like spending time trying to bring in Weddle, Robinson, Carroll, etc. All unimportant obviously since we were not able to get it done

Maybe our FO needs to spend more time on doing stuff they consider "important" rather than waste it on the "unimportant " stuff

Do you really think any NFL team signs every FA they bring in for a discussion? Or do most of them end up signing just the ones who are willing to sign for about what the team is willing to pay for? I mean, if you were willing to be reasonable about things for just a moment?

 

[DandyDon52]

We made no offer to get Murray back.

why do you say that , it was reported that they did try to make a deal to get him back.

 

[DandyDon52]

Do you really think any NFL team signs every FA they bring in for a discussion? Or do most of them end up signing just the ones who are willing to sign for about what the team is willing to pay for? I mean, if you were willing to be reasonable about things for just a moment?

I think he was responding to your post 124.
"Did you mean to type that they spent an entire week not ultimately bringing Murray back? If it was that important, wouldnt they have gotten it done?"

 

[Idgit]

I think he was responding to your post 124.
"Did you mean to type that they spent an entire week not ultimately bringing Murray back? If it was that important, wouldnt they have gotten it done?"

Yeah, that was evident. Obviously there wasn't a deal to be had for Murray at what the team considered a value.

 

[visionary]

Do you really think any NFL team signs every FA they bring in for a discussion? Or do most of them end up signing just the ones who are willing to sign for about what the team is willing to pay for? I mean, if you were willing to be reasonable about things for just a moment?

But saying "it was not important BECAUSE we could not get it done" is not even 3rd grade reasoning

 

[big dog cowboy]

why do you say that , it was reported that they did try to make a deal to get him back.

Because it came out after the trade that we never made an offer. All reports prior to the trade were incorrect.

 

[big dog cowboy]

These are the teams that had a 1,000-yard rusher in 2015. Count their playoff wins.

Vikings, Bucs, Rams, Cowboys, Jets, Raiders, Falcons

Only two of the above teams had a winning record. That doesn't take anything away from the accomplishments of those backs or their OL. Those were all good running games. Defenses cheated toward the run against us, and we were still effective. Rushing success by itself simply doesn't equate to winning.

 

[DandyDon52]

DeMarco Murray agreed to a revised contract with the Titans that has a base value of $25.5 million over four years.

That's a $6.34 million annual average, although Murray can earn up to $33 million via incentives. The deal contains $12.5 million guaranteed. The Titans now have Murray under control through his age-31 season. Including playoffs, Murray amassed 497 touches in 2014 with Dallas. He logged 237 more last year.

This is basically about what cowboys offered him in 2014 !
He should have stayed here.

 

[Idgit]

But saying "it was not important BECAUSE we could not get it done" is not even 3rd grade reasoning

There's nothing wrong with the logic that teams pay more for players that are relatively more important. 3rd-grade reasoning or not, it has the benefit of being completely true.

 

[Idgit]

DeMarco Murray agreed to a revised contract with the Titans that has a base value of $25.5 million over four years.

That's a $6.34 million annual average, although Murray can earn up to $33 million via incentives. The deal contains $12.5 million guaranteed. The Titans now have Murray under control through his age-31 season. Including playoffs, Murray amassed 497 touches in 2014 with Dallas. He logged 237 more last year.

This is basically about what cowboys offered him in 2014 !
He should have stayed here.

That much is definitely true. Though what we reportedly offered him was also too much for what he has left in the tank.

 

[visionary]

There's nothing wrong with the logic that teams pay more for players that are relatively more important. 3rd-grade reasoning or not, it has the benefit of being completely true.

That is not what you said
You implied that it could not have been important BECAUSE we did not get it done

That has the benefit of being completely bereft of logic

I used to think that you made such non sensical statements (and you do from time to time) for effect, even though you knew they were nonsensical

It is clear from our discussion that you actually don't have a good grasp of logic and reason

 

[Idgit]

That is not what you said
You implied that it could not have been important BECAUSE we did not get it done

That has the benefit of being completely bereft of logic

I used to think that you made such non sensical statements (and you do from time to time) for effect, even though you knew they were nonsensical

It is clear from our discussion that you actually don't have a good grasp of logic and reason

I'll admit I don't have a grasp if your logic and reasoning, if that makes you feel better. My point above is really straightforward, so I don't need to reiterate it. The posts are there if anybody else is somehow confused.

But because you're demonstrating here--yet again--that you're incapable of a discussion without resorting to the tiresome personal jabs, we're done here.

 

[jnday]

You act like that's not normal. These are the teams that had a 1,000-yard rusher in 2015. Count their playoff wins.

Vikings
Bucs
Rams
Cowboys
Jets
Raiders
Falcons

Only two of the above teams had a winning record. That doesn't take anything away from the accomplishments of those backs or their OL. Those were all good running games. Defenses cheated toward the run against us, and we were still effective. Rushing success by itself simply doesn't equate to winning.

You can't compare this team to the others either. The running game plays a key part in this offenses success . Keep down playing the importance though. The FO has and it has really went so well.