JJT On Sporting News Radio Today Said It Will Be Norv...

[JPM]

I tell you what I find Ironic.

Some of the very people that were always bashing on Bill about being mediocre and so on...are the same ones that are basically pimping or being ok with the Norv Hire.

Just makes no sense to me.

It's a rouse !! We will hire Rivera.

Sorry, I'm trying to deny that Norv will be here.

 

[Cochese]

Brees...Gus Frerotte - PRO BOWLER - Stephen Davis ...

Its easier to understand what people are sayin when they speak in complete sentences.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I tell you what I find Ironic.

Some of the very people that were always bashing on Bill about being mediocre and so on...are the same ones that are basically pimping or being ok with the Norv Hire.

Just makes no sense to me.

I just hope all of this is media speculation like them saying bill was coming back.

If people had a problem with bills record I just see no legit reason they could be happy with what norv has done.

Yeah, that is rather odd I have to admit.

But I think that very peculiar whim just shows you how disgusted some were with Parcells and would even bring in The Devil himself to get rid of Parcells .

 

[theebs]

Who will pick up the slack?

T.O. was the best player on offense last year, drops and all. Led the league in TDs, despite not being the focus early in games. Was it week 14 when he finally caught his first first half TD? That is pathetic. Your offense is supposed to run through the best player on the feild, and it didn't last year.

fwiw owens had 13 td's.

6 of them were from the 7 yard line or closer.

I will ask you this.

Jason witten had 1 td. He is 6"6

Dont you think Norv and jason could find ways to get witten the ball from the 7 in?

I do.

 

[StevenOtero]

:bounce::toast2:

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yeah, that is rather odd I have to admit.

But I think that very peculiar whim just shows you how disgusted some were with Parcells and would even bring in The Devil himself to get rid of Parcells .

On the same token...I was never as negative towards bill...did not like everything he did or did not do...but never as negative as some on here.

However I just can not wrap my mind around Norv as head coach and feel good about it.

I would give him a chance...but I just don't like the idea at this point.

Sure our O would be better, but pardon me for thinking the O was not the problem last season...the defense was.

This also, IMO, means if we hire Norv as HC than we will just go with Todd B. as DC. Maybe he will turn out to be good, maybe not.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Who will pick up the slack?

T.O. was the best player on offense last year, drops and all. Led the league in TDs, despite not being the focus early in games. Was it week 14 when he finally caught his first first half TD? That is pathetic. Your offense is supposed to run through the best player on the feild, and it didn't last year.

I will take the #3 rated Offense any day of the week.

Give me Romo with another year under his belt coupled with Crayton, Glenn, Witten, a solid one-two punch with JJ-III along with a solid and creative mind like Sean Payton and I dont think there is no question that is a scary offense.

- Mike G.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

On the same token...I was never as negative towards bill...did not like everything he did or did not do...but never as negative as some on here.

However I just can not wrap my mind around Norv as head coach and feel good about it.

I would give him a chance...but I just don't like the idea at this point.

Sure our O would be better, but pardon me for thinking the O was not the problem last season...the defense was.

This also, IMO, means if we hire Norv as HC than we will just go with Todd B. as DC. Maybe he will turn out to be good, maybe not.

Yeah, I am like you, I will give him the same time frame that I gave Bill Parcells. And actually, Norv will have less time because Parcells inherited a 1980 Ford Granada and Norv is probably inheriting at least a 2006 Lexus .

Norv doesnt excite me as Head Coach. If there is going to be all this dancing around the fact that the Red Head is going to be groomed for the HC postion, I would rather just be forthright and give him the Job and the proper leeway and freedom.

I know this is foolhardy, but Jason Garret as HC and Phillips as DC is appealing to me.

- Mike G.

 

[EveryoneElse]

fwiw owens had 13 td's.

6 of them were from the 7 yard line or closer.

I will ask you this.

Jason witten had 1 td. He is 6"6

Dont you think Norv and jason could find ways to get witten the ball from the 7 in?

I do.

I think anyone with a little imagination can find a way to get a 6'6" player involved in the redzone.

12tds difference? I doubt Jason Witten catches 13tds next year.

Owens scored a lot of points without being the main focus in the early part of games. All I hear on shows and here and other boards is how poor of a year Owens had.

I'll take those aweful stats for the next 5 years. I hope we draft 7 WRs this draft that can put up a poor year like Owens did this year.

 

[EveryoneElse]

I will take the #3 rated Offense any day of the week.

The offense this year was #3 like the defense a few years back was #1.

The defense that year was not one of the best defense's in the league, and neither was the offense this year.

You take Romo, Glenn, Crayton, and Witten and you will watch this "#3" offense drop to the middle of the pack.

Owens was a VITAL part of making this offense good.

 

[theebs]

I think anyone with a little imagination can find a way to get a 6'6" player involved in the redzone.

12tds difference? I doubt Jason Witten catches 13tds next year.

Owens scored a lot of points without being the main focus in the early part of games. All I hear on shows and here and other boards is how poor of a year Owens had.

I'll take those aweful stats for the next 5 years. I hope we draft 7 WRs this draft that can put up a poor year like Owens did this year.

I never said 12 td difference. Please pay attention.

6 of owens 13 were from the 7 or closer.

I believe you could get at least 5 of those 6 to witten if not all 6.

that leaves 7 of which were big plays. THat is where your scouting department comes in and the development of hurd and austin.

Maybe glenn catches one or two more.

Owens made big plays, no one will match his stats here. He is however replaceable. HIs age, declining skill and salary make him a bad move.

If norv were to better the running game, the safety that would have been rolled to owens side would be put in the box, leaving one on ones outside on occasion.

Hopefully our scouting department will find us an explosive wr in the draft.

and austin will become a good wr, because he can fly when he gets going.

 

[theogt]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

That about sums it up.

 

[EveryoneElse]

Owens made big plays, no one will match his stats here. He is however replaceable. HIs age, declining skill and salary make him a bad move.

If norv were to better the running game, the safety that would have been rolled to owens side would be put in the box, leaving one on ones outside on occasion.

Ok. Where are Owens declining skills? He dropped a few balls, yeah. Just over one per game, that has to be fixed. Owens is as good as he's been for the way he was used. If I'm the offensive Coordinator I get himthe ball early in the game, Philly had no problem doing that and he thrived there. Different offense, but thats a bad excuse. Owens needs to touch the ball on the first possesion, imo. That opens up so much more for our offense.

And second, If Norv and Jason can make the running game better, maybe keeping Owens isn't such a bad idea, ya think? That safety not rolling to him anymore would probably make him a little more open. 13 tds turns into 15 or 16. His production is not replaceable from whats out there right now, or even with what we have.

If we are a player or two away, then cutting one of our best weapons wouldn't be smart at all.

He's not going anywhere anyway.

 

[LucaBrasi]

...Norv. Formal announcement early next week.

It sounds to me like someone in the organization has purposely leaked the info since the beat writers are now predicting it.

I don't mean to be a doom and gloomer but Norv getting another shot as a HC just to give Jason Garrett an apprenticeship is one of the most nonsensical moves Jerry has made with this franchise.

Jerry never disappoints. He's made nonsensical into an art form.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I tell you what I find Ironic.

Some of the very people that were always bashing on Bill about being mediocre and so on...are the same ones that are basically pimping or being ok with the Norv Hire.

Just makes no sense to me.

I just hope all of this is media speculation like them saying bill was coming back.

If people had a problem with bills record I just see no legit reason they could be happy with what norv has done.

Let me remove that "cloud of fog" from your brain Brain.

I bashed Bill on being mediocre because that's not where my expectations were. I expected better.

And I would from Norv Turner also.

But I also believe that head coaches are much more of a "wild-card" than players when it comes to estimating their level of success. Thats why a "mumbles" can look positively lost in Cleveland and then become a 3-time SB champion in another city.

 

[odog422]

This Offense could already score...I was really hoping for someone that would have came in and made this defense great...esp considering we have went defense in the first round of the drafts of late.

Exactly. I just don't understand how Jerry can spend all the money he has on the defense, not to mention, as you say, the high picks, have them consistently underperform and then pass on one of the premier minds in the game today with the type defense he has specifically built to be run.

 

[theebs]

Ok. Where are Owens declining skills? He dropped a few balls, yeah. Just over one per game, that has to be fixed. Owens is as good as he's been for the way he was used. If I'm the offensive Coordinator I get himthe ball early in the game, Philly had no problem doing that and he thrived there. Different offense, but thats a bad excuse. Owens needs to touch the ball on the first possesion, imo. That opens up so much more for our offense.

And second, If Norv and Jason can make the running game better, maybe keeping Owens isn't such a bad idea, ya think? That safety not rolling to him anymore would probably make him a little more open. 13 tds turns into 15 or 16. His production is not replaceable from whats out there right now, or even with what we have.

If we are a player or two away, then cutting one of our best weapons wouldn't be smart at all.

He's not going anywhere anyway.

well we will agree to disagree so we dont hijack the thread.

besides I am about an hour away from putting a ban on myself of no more owens talk till at least the draft.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Exactly. I just don't understand how Jerry can spend all the money he has on the defense, not to mention, as you say, the high picks, have them consistently underperform and then pass on one of the premier minds in the game today with the type defense he has specifically built to be run.

I ask you who's responsibility will it be to make the defense great?

To me it's not the head coach-- It's the defensive coordinator.

And that was part of the problem with this team... the "control freak" had his hands in everything and didn't let others do what they could. I also think that's why the control freak burns out after only a few years on the job.

If you want the head coach to run the defense then Jerry can just save himself some money and not hire or promote one.

 

[Dale]

Let me remove that "cloud of fog" from your brain Brain.

I bashed Bill on being mediocre because that's not where my expectations were. I expected better.

And I would from Norv Turner also.

But I also believe that head coaches are much more of a "wild-card" than players when it comes to estimating their level of success. Thats why a "mumbles" can look positively lost in Cleveland and then become a 3-time SB champion in another city.

People have been complaining of December collapses under Parcells. Might they be complaining of September collapses under Norv Turner?

I just have little confidence that he would come in and "build" on what Parcells accomplished.

This was the biggest reason why I thought it was in the Cowboys' best interest for Parcells to return. As mediocre as he was here, I don't think you'll see a superior candidate brought in.

Granted, Norv -- or anyone -- could end up doing better. You truly never know. But in terms of instant evaluation, I don't think one should really "expect" Norv Turner to do more with similar talent than an aging, tired Parcells.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Let remove that "cloud of fog" from your brain Brain.

I bashed Bill on being mediocre because that's not where my expectations were. I expected better.

And I would from Norv Turner also.

But I also believe that head coaches are much more of a "wild-card" than players when it comes to estimating their level of success. Thats why a "mumbles" can look positively lost in Cleveland and then become a 3-time SB champion in another city.

I still don't see it...I just do not see how people could be happy or even OK with the thought of Norv being the HC.

If Bill could not spark the team and control some players...I just see no way that laid back Norv could do it.

Plus with Norv...Jerry is more apt to take more control of things, which has not served well in the past.

Sorry...I just can't help thinking we have spent so much money on defense, drafted defense, had one of the best offensive seasons we have had in years...but go with Norv instead of a HC with a proven agressive Defensive scheme.

I don't want Wade because of his HC abilities...I want him because he would be able to help mold whoever we hire as DC in an aggressive 3-4 scheme. I think this team has enough players on Defense to do well...they just need to be more agressive.

Now if for some possible reason Jerry could convince wade to come in as a DC and assistant HC...THEN I would not mind Norv as HC so much.

Our offense is good enough to win games right now....our defense is what let us down time and time again.

I think of Norv at HC with no proven DC who always puts on a decent 3-4 defense and this picture comes to mind...