Recap: JJT: Whispers from the Star (8/28)

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He’s one of the best safeties in the game. He’s only 31.. He’s miles better than Woods and whoever else they trot out beside him.
Just a difference of opinion, but my take....He WAS one of the best safeties in the game. He’s an old 31 with a broken leg and torn knee ligaments in the last 3 years. He’s probably better than Woods or whoever else we have but he’s also a locker room problem. I don’t think it’s worth it.
 

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Crawford's year with his most QB hits (14) came when he played tackle. He's also had a 5-sack year at tackle. His best year for total tackles was at tackle. His best year for tackles for loss was at end (8), but it's only one above his best at tackle (7).

He's quick for a DT but not so much for a DE. The idea that he barely gets any pressure inside is a fallacy.
Wrong they listed him at tackle but 4 out of his 5.5 sacks came when he played at DE
 

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i would not expect a legit coach here with the Cowboys to go public with the media about his disappointment with a player in camp. Theyd' simply make a change in the lineup and try to make a verbal reason why player A is gettting rewarded reps over Player B.
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An fans tend to jump to conclusions it’s what we do. Sometimes we’re right and sometimes we’re not. I’m not gonna worry to much and I don’t see ET as the difference between a SB berth and a early exit
 

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Wrong they listed him at tackle but 4 out of his 5.5 sacks came when he played at DE

That's the 5.5 season when he played more end than tackle. I'm talking about the 5.0 season when he was playing inside.
 

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Griffen/Smith, 1-tech Woods, 3-tech Poe, Lawrence in some early-down situations (with Griffen or Smith also able to sub for Lawrence on those

Griffen/Smith, 1-tech Poe, 3-tech Crawford, Lawrence in some run situations where a pass is also likely.

Griffen, Crawford, Smith, Lawrence in passing situations.

That passing line up is *really* light. Crawford is a tweener, and Griffen is a DE you can get away with sliding in every now and again.

And who is the rotation for Crawford and Griffen at DE for passing downs?

With us being so light on pass rushing DTs, we'd better save Crawford for that, and that means Woods and Poe have to play paired. Which I like, but doubt that the team would have gone for much if McCoy didn't get hurt.

Crawford has to come through, and Hill or Gallimore have to surprise.
 

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That passing line up is *really* light. Crawford is a tweener, and Griffen is a DE you can get away with sliding in every now and again.

And who is the rotation for Crawford and Griffen at DE for passing downs?

With us being so light on pass rushing DTs, we'd better save Crawford for that, and that means Woods and Poe have to play paired. Which I like, but doubt that the team would have gone for much if McCoy didn't get hurt.

Crawford has to come through, and Hill or Gallimore have to surprise.

Clear passing downs would be DE Griffen, DT Crawford, DT Smith, DT Lawrence, although you could possibly flip flop Griffen and Smith.

Crawford will play some on run downs, but on short yardage, you take him out and pair Woods with Poe. Poe can play some 3-tech because he has the ability to pressure the pocket. Woods is strictly an NT.

Obviously, we hope that Gallimore or Hill proves worthy of playing time, but with the six experienced DL we have it doesn't have to happen. What I would do is mix them in when the plays aren't as crucial. So if the other team is starting around their 20 or 25, then put in one of the young guys with the vets for a couple of plays. If the team is up by 10 with only a couple of minutes left and the opponent deep in its territory, let the young guys play until it becomes necessary to stick in the vets.

There are ways to shave snaps off the vets' playing time without putting the defense in a compromising position. Sure on first-and-10 from the 20, Hill or Gallimore might get out of position and allow a big run, but that's still a reasonable risk. It's a risk that should be taken, though, only if Dallas has a lead.
 

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Is this a typical dig from JJT?
"The point of this discussion is Trysten Hill is going to have to get some reasonable reps during the season, whether the Cowboys want him to or not."

JJT has become better over the years, but sayings like this, he always digs at a player as if he has an agenda. From what we been seeing, he has been having a good camp. So maybe he deserves some playing time JJT, whether you want him to play or not. :laugh:

I agree. All reports has been his been doing well. Then JJT's report seem to indicate that they have no choice but to start Hill.
 

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That's the 5.5 season when he played more end than tackle. I'm talking about the 5.0 season when he was playing inside.
5 years ago?? when Greg hardy opened up opportunities for everyone on the d line. That season we are banking on? lol
 

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Crawford and Poe, reasonably so, were in the DT position. JJT is a little worried about Crawford, but he's finally playing the position that the Cowboys extended him to play. He's been a good player for us, but not great. JJT is worried coming off a major injury, age, and getting pounded by centers and guards - that his body would be able to handle the rigor. The point of this discussion is Trysten Hill is going to have to get some reasonable reps during the season, whether the Cowboys want him to or not.
If you do not have DT/NT, you can not stop the run and can not get push to stop the pass. QBs hate pressure up the middle, RBs hate stopping momentum and bouncing outside. This is why the Cowboys will not contend for any championship (East, NFC, or Super Bowl).

To hell with a S, the Cowboys need +290 pounders that can cause havoc in the middle so the pressure can be felt from the edges.

There is a reason why Mr. Cowboy, the 1st draft pick in Cowboys history, was a DT. They is a reason Randy White was converted from MLB to DT. There is a reason the 1st and most important trade the Cowboys made was for a former Pro Bowl DT name Tony Casillas. There is a reason why Jimmy Johnson with the 1st overall pick drafted Russell Maryland DT from The U. There is a reason Bill Parcells came out the 2005 draft with Marcus Spears, DT, LSU, Chris Canty DT, Virgina, and Jay Ratliff, DT, Auburn. There is a reason, even after drafting Spears, Canty, and Ratliff, he drafted future Pro Bowler Jason Hatcher, DE/DT, Grambling.

This is not rocket science on how to build a championship contending defense. Tell Jerry and Stephen to go read the Cowboys history book. Stop trying to get cheap deals with unreliable or unavailable players and invest in you Defensive front line. Also, don't cut you 6-6-270 pound 1st round pick, with the frame to add 20 pounds, because you wasted time on drug heads not giving him the opportunity to develop like Parcells did for Jason Hatcher who became your last Pro Bowl DT for Jason Garrett.

Jerry Dumbo GM Jones is at it again.
 

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5 years ago?? when Greg hardy opened up opportunities for everyone on the d line. That season we are banking on? lol

I see your going to have an excuse for anything that doesn't fit what you are spewing.

Your claim was that Crawford wasn't a good pass rusher from the inside. The evudence disputes that. He's mostly been playing end, though, the past few years because that's where we needed him due to Gregory's suspensions and Charlton's busy.

He's not a 4-3 right end and got paid his huge contract because of excellent play at ST. Whether he can provide that still especially coming off the surgery, I don't know.
 

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I just don't see us relying on Anae unless he proves it in limited snaps.

I think we'll definitely see Smith, Lawrence and Griffen on the field together a lot with one of them inside. Don't know if it will be Lawrence, though. I think both Smith and Griffen are better fits rushing from the tackle spot.

With the likes of Dlaw, Griffen and Aldon, we would not be relying upon Bradlee Anae, as he'd be more of a luxury, he'd be a
pass specialist. In spots and package with his underrated gift for pass rushing, He'll be needed off the bench fresh, to help out
the vet guys in an effort to keep them more fresher and reserved.

One of the big knocks on Everson is he tends to wear down at the closing of games, and in 2nd half of the season.
Having guys like Aldon and Bradlee is gonna do worlds of wonders to better reserve Everson in the long run.

i actually think Dlaw would be better fit inside as a nickel tackle than Griffin.
Everson needs that outside space to do that patented spin move
manuver that gives OTs fits, but inside that spin would nullified because the phone booth space inside.
And Griffin relies more on power/spin to do his rushes. Dlaw has better quickness and agility off the ball than Everson.
But a move with him inside needs to be less occasions though, imo.
 

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I see your going to have an excuse for anything that doesn't fit what you are spewing.

Your claim was that Crawford wasn't a good pass rusher from the inside. The evudence disputes that. He's mostly been playing end, though, the past few years because that's where we needed him due to Gregory's suspensions and Charlton's busy.

He's not a 4-3 right end and got paid his huge contract because of excellent play at ST. Whether he can provide that still especially coming off the surgery, I don't know.
Collins had more sacks then that his rookie season. Crawford is not good on the inside. He can barely stay healthy when he plays inside. don't expect much from him
 
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