Joe Horn vs Koren Robinson - Who's your choice?

[Bob Sacamano]

That's an entirely different scenario.

Flo isn't done like Horn is done.

He's 33, not 36. When he's 36 and done then if you ask me that question I am going to answer Doug Free because again I would be thinking about the future as far as potential, not the past as far as accomplishments.

just because you're young doesn't guarantee you a future

that's my point, just because Koren Robinson is younger than Joe Horn, doesn't automatically mean that he'll amount to more in the future, he could be out of the league w/ Horn in a year or 2

just like Free might not be a better player than Flo in 3 years, when he's 36

 

[jobberone]

I don't think there is a real scenario where it is one or the other. If Koren's advisor's tell me he can make it thru the season and his workout shows he still has it then I go with him if someone makes it a life and death situation. If Horn's workout is too good to pass up then I don't have to make another choice.

 

[DallasEast]

And...

I am sure there is a T.O., Tank and Pacman page as well.

I believe that Robinson's pattern of behavior cannot be dismissed.

Owens child-like behavior helped get him kicked off the Eagles.

Johnson's gun fetish arrests (although serious) and association with a murdered friend/bodyguard primarily got him released from the Bears.

Jones assault/thuggish arrests, etc., paved the way for the Titans to part ways with him for the Cowboys' (hopeful) benefit.

Robinson? He has one real problem, namely a heavy addiction to alcohol and weed.

You can pay a guy millions of dollars and make him feel secure enough to overcome his immaturity; or you surround idiot players with counselors and separate them from outside bad influences to (hopefully) keep them on the right track.

Robinson? That guy has serious inner demon issues. If Jerry Jones is willing to chain him inside a rehab clinic and provide long-term psychological medical assistance afterwards, fine, but I doubt that he'll go the distance with someone as self-destructive as Robinson. Jerry Jones has too many negatives staring him in the face from the Seahawks, Vikings and Packers to take that kind of chance. JMO.

 

[dbair1967]

I never said I wanted one or the other. I would rather just let the young guys battle it out or go get Boldin or Williams.

Being forced to choose one or the other was the point of discussion.

thats what bad teams do...we are not a bad team

good teams make good decisions...our top 5 or 6 WR's are all better for now and the future than has beens or never will bes like the Robinson's, Horn's and Matt Jones' of the world

David

 

[dbair1967]

If Horn is lined up outside do you think any secondary in the world has to worry about his deep speed? Heck no.

that we agree on

At least Robinson has a little speed to his game.

he never shows it on the field though

As far as 'no future', 'not worth the risk'..

he isnt worth it because he isnt any good, period.

I got three names for you on that note: T.O., Tank and Pacman.

and I got news for you, all 3 were vastly better football players than Koren Robinson ever has been, or ever will be

David

 

[gimmesix]

As far as 'no future', 'not worth the risk'..

Come on now. Can we even bring those things into a discussion anymore when we are talking Dallas Cowboys.

I got three names for you on that note: T.O., Tank and Pacman.

Risk is relative to ability. Owens' and Jones' ability made the potential reward worth the risk. Even Johnson showed that he was a good player worth a low risk.

Robinson has not shown that his level of play is worth the risk involved. I can't understand why you would even want to take a flyer on a guy who has "failed" with three teams, and by failed I mean not lived up to expectations both on the field and off.

It's almost like you believe younger automatically means better, or that the Cowboys have this special gift for turning coal into diamonds that no other team can master. Robinson's one good year is far behind him (2002) and three teams have wasted time trying to get him to return to that form.

I'd take the Joe Horns of the league over him in a second. Better to have an old vet who once knew how to get it done than a young one who never really did. At least the old guy can use and share his experience.

 

[Brandon]

Joe Horn = Bum.

Koren Robinson = Drunk bum.

Not really a question. NEITHER.

 

[dcfanatic]

I never said I wanted one or the other. I would rather just let the young guys battle it out or go get Boldin or Williams.



thats what bad teams do...we are not a bad team

good teams make good decisions...our top 5 or 6 WR's are all better for now and the future than has beens or never will bes like the Robinson's, Horn's and Matt Jones' of the world

David

Yeah I agree. And now we know Jerry might agree also.

Like I said I was never for signing/trading for any of these guys. I would rather stick with the young guys or trade for a big time WR.

 

[dcfanatic]

Risk is relative to ability. Owens' and Jones' ability made the potential reward worth the risk. Even Johnson showed that he was a good player worth a low risk.

Robinson has not shown that his level of play is worth the risk involved. I can't understand why you would even want to take a flyer on a guy who has "failed" with three teams, and by failed I mean not lived up to expectations both on the field and off.

It's almost like you believe younger automatically means better, or that the Cowboys have this special gift for turning coal into diamonds that no other team can master. Robinson's one good year is far behind him (2002) and three teams have wasted time trying to get him to return to that form.

I'd take the Joe Horns of the league over him in a second. Better to have an old vet who once knew how to get it done than a young one who never really did. At least the old guy can use and share his experience.

Of course I don't believe younger is better.

I also don't believe either one is worth more than a nickel.

But I know one guy has an opportunity, no matter how small it may be, to be something in the future because he's 28 years old and the other doesn't because he's 36 years old.

 

[switzersflask]

Can't stand Horn. One might make a decent contributor but there's better, younger talent on the roster right now. No need to waste some money on a prop comic (Horn), or a .... I'll leave it at that.

 

[gimmesix]

I also don't believe either one is worth more than a nickel.

But I know one guy has an opportunity, no matter how small it may be, to be something in the future because he's 28 years old and the other doesn't because he's 36 years old.

I agree with you as far as the "worth" of these players go, but I'd rather lure Jerry Rice out of retirement than be the latest team to be taken in by Robinson's "talent" tease. He's shown absolutely over the past few years that he's no better than anyone we've got.

Horn's probably not, either, but at least he has some know-how he can put to use on the field or possibly in helping the other receivers improve.

Of the two, I would say we would definitely have a better chance of getting a return on the investment from Horn this year than we would on Robinson. "The future" I'm not worried about with these guys. They would be hired guns for this season and next season we'd look for better options.

My real choice would be to reach an accord with Glenn since we can't add a "wow" receiver.

 

[Disturbed]

Jerry, please pass on all the scrubs from other teams. This does not help us achieve our goals. And you might be losing your mind by looking at 36 year old wide outs and thinking Glenn can still play, maybe you need a vacation to relax...let Stephen run things for a few weeks and go play.

Just say NO to any WR wanting to join over 30.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I was wondering who you guys would choose between Horn and Robinson.

C. None of the above.

 

[BruceWayne]

they both suck.

:laugh2: so true