John Clayton on EE suspension

[aria]

I'm so sure that's why you were furious with Dez. Yes. That play was not good and could've been called. Maybe the officials knew he was right and it was a bad call backed up by the fact that they picked up the flag.
What is the other "a lot" I left out and I'll address it to help you understand. Dez taking off his helmet and running onto the field could is two separate penalties?
Pretty sure if they judged that to be unsportsmanlike it would be one incident.



As you should know all I know about the situation is a Giant season ticket holder who is a life long fan and daughter of a life long fan and grew up in a family where the Giants were a very big part of their lives is heading the investigation. The same investigation that has lasted over a year despite the fact that the woman was caught by the POLICE investigating the incident trying to coerce another witness to lie and say Zeke assalted her.

You remind me of another poster who hasn't posted in a while. He'd be proud YOU'RE carrying on his fight.

You have absolutely ZERO proof that the investigation is being held up by this season ticket holder. I don't like it but I also realize every single person who works in some capacity for the NFL has a favorite team they like. I'm sure there are Cowboys fans, Eagles fans, Commanders fans throughtout NFL offices from top to bottom but because someone owns season tickets and an investigation is taking longer than usual, even though we may not know all the facts, then they are guilty. Ok dude, gotchya. Again, someone could make ties to evey call or non call that benefits the Cowboys (or are you going to dispute that the Cowboys never have calls go their way or get away with penalties? it wouldn't surprise me) to Blandino and Jerry. Remember when Kraft and Goodell were all chummy and fans were crying and stompng their feet about how much the Pats got away with.....look how that ended up.

As we all know, it doesn't matter what the police found or if the player broke a law or not. The NFL has its own set of grey area rules so your POLICE investigation means jack.

Listen pal, buddy, hombre...I don't know what your referencing when you talk about another poster and capitalize YOUR'E or put my "roomate" in quotations but obviously you're insinuating something so why don't you come out and say it? You seem to be an expert in bluntness but you're hiding behind you're words. I'm pretty sure whatever you mean ties right in with your other crazy theories that you have zero proof on and can only see from one side.

 

[DogFace]

You have absolutely ZERO proof that the investigation is being held up by this season ticket holder. I don't like it but I also realize every single person who works in some capacity for the NFL has a favorite team they like. I'm sure there are Cowboys fans, Eagles fans, Commanders fans throughtout NFL offices from top to bottom but because someone owns season tickets and an investigation is taking longer than usual, even though we may not know all the facts, then they are guilty. Ok dude, gotchya. Again, someone could make ties to evey call or non call that benefits the Cowboys (or are you going to dispute that the Cowboys never have calls go their way or get away with penalties? it wouldn't surprise me) to Blandino and Jerry. Remember when Kraft and Goodell were all chummy and fans were crying and stompng their feet about how much the Pats got away with.....look how that ended up.

As we all know, it doesn't matter what the police found or if the player broke a law or not. The NFL has its own set of grey area rules so your POLICE investigation means jack.

Listen pal, buddy, hombre...I don't know what your referencing when you talk about another poster and capitalize YOUR'E or put my "roomate" in quotations but obviously you're insinuating something so why don't you come out and say it? You seem to be an expert in bluntness but you're hiding behind you're words. I'm pretty sure whatever you mean ties right in with your other crazy theories that you have zero proof on and can only see from one side.

I'm saying that you don't know when to use you're and when to use your. Then that makes it easier for me to understand why you have so much trouble understanding when things are broken down very clearly for you by others trying to help.

I didn't say it was being held up. I simply said the person in charge, listed her conflicts of interest, and said it has taken over a year. Longer than most, if not all, other investigations.

I never put roommate in quotes. That is your business and I fully support you having a roommate and being happy.

I welcome you to make ties to the outrageously odd plays that have benefitted the Cowboys.

 

[DogFace]

This has all been addressed already. It's pointless debating with someone like you. You want to complain about the Butler call? For the record, I didn't like it either but according to you a rule is a rule and he broke it. It doesn't matter how many times it's been called. Just like most of the time a player who pulled what Dez did would get flagged but didn't, Butler did. Not to mention you have negated some of the non calls I brought up essentially saying it wasn't that big of a deal due to timing. The Cowboys had more than enough time to make up for the Butler BS. Somewhat related, just like the Dez non catch against GB. According to the rules it was the correct call which they have since changed.

Yes, an investment and if you're not concerned about his behavior and want to see this possibky dragged throuh the appeals process then I don't what to tell you. Outrage across the league? Haha I hardly doubt it, not all players wear the same blinders you do and even though it could possibly effect them I doubt it would cause "outrage". As I've said the NFL could come out with more facts that we don't know which is why this taking so long.

I'm not complaining about the Butler call. I'm explaining, as you asked, why it is much different from the calls you used as examples.

 

[aria]

I'm saying that you don't know when to use you're and when to use your. Then that makes it easier for me to understand why you have so much trouble understanding when things are broken down very clearly for you by others trying to help.

I didn't say it was being held up. I simply said the person in charge, listed her conflicts of interest, and said it has taken over a year. Longer than most, if not all, other investigations.

Oh, the pompous grammar police are in full force. I understand very clearly what you said bit instead of addressing my rebuttal you would rather engage in a battle of punctuation and semantics. I'm pretty sure there's a separate wensite for that.

 

[DogFace]

Oh, the pompous grammar police are in full force. I understand very clearly what you said bit instead of addressing my rebuttal you would rather engage in a battle of punctuation and semantics. I'm pretty sure there's a separate wensite for that.

It's just revealing and I couldn't help myself

I did address each and every one of your points. Go back and read it and maybe it will help you.

Which point did I fail to address?

 

[aria]

I'm not complaining about the Butler call. I'm explaining, as you asked, why it is much different from the calls you used as examples.

I apologize for the misunderstanding, I'm glad you acknowledge the Butler call was legit whether you agree with it or not. That's a step in the right direction, just pull those shades a little lower and maybe, just maybe, you'll be fully rehabilitated.

 

[Lutonio]

I have a heart attack when I come to the site and see this thread at 20 pages and start expecting news on the issue.

 

[aria]

It's just revealing.

I did address each and every one of your points. Go back and read it and maybe it will help you.

Which point did I fail to address?

It's just revealing.

I did address each and every one of your points. Go back and read it and maybe it will help you.

Which point did I fail to address?

You are correct and this I truly apologize for, I mistook the quotations and caps with another user. It's been an absolute pleasure.

 

[DogFace]

I apologize for the misunderstanding, I'm glad you acknowledge the Butler call was legit whether you agree with it or not. That's a step in the right direction, just pull those shades a little lower and maybe, just maybe, you'll be fully rehabilitated.

No. It wasn't legit because it happens all the time and isn't called. That's why it was such bs, dear.

That's the point. It was called twice since the mid 80's. Several people illustrated it happening in other games. Furthermore, he didn't break the rules as they were written. He didn't communicate with the huddle.

 

[DogFace]

You are correct and this I truly apologize for, I mistook the quotations and caps with another user. It's been an absolute pleasure.

Apology accepted and YOU ARE welcome for providing you pleasure.

Enlightenment can be very enjoyable.

 

[aria]

No. It wasn't legit because it happens all the time and isn't called. That's why it was such bs, dear.

That's the point. It was called twice since the mid 80's. Several people illustrated it happening in other games. Furthermore, he didn't break the rules as they were written. He didn't communicate with the huddle.

Lol, I like dear.

Listen sweety, we could go round and round all day and obviously neither one of us is going to change our minds. It's always fun debating with people as stubborn as I am, especially when they're as arrogant as you. Go Cowboys!

 

[DogFace]

I have a heart attack when I come to the site and see this thread at 20 pages and start expecting news on the issue.

Nope just arguing to pass time until training camp.

I plan on starting a Dez caught it thread tomorrow.

 

[aria]

Nope just arguing to pass time until training camp.

I planning on starting a Dez caught it thread tomorrow.

Do it, my screen already seems so empty without that little red flag in the upper right corner. You have no idea how much you helped me pass 8 hours of work yesterday I feel like I have nothing to look forward to anymore, a huge void in my Cowboyszone life

 

[phildadon86]

Do it, my screen already seems so empty without that little red flag in the upper right corner. You have no idea how much you helped me pass 8 hours of work yesterday I feel like I have nothing to look forward to anymore, a huge void in my Cowboyszone life

I gave you a like because that post made me sad, and worried.

 

[aria]

I gave you a like because that post made me sad, and worried.

We just need football season to get here ASAP but I am genuinely concerned about the rules and officiating. Last year sucked, league wide, and you know none of those geriatrics eye sight or mental capacity are getting any better.

Something clearly needs to change and they've done little to address it. I don't care if a game takes 5 hours due to instant replay, I want the right call made.

I'm not sure if full time officiating crews would make a difference but it couldn't hurt. I also think PI needs to be more clearly defined and reviewable. It's one of the most costly and subjective penalties in the NFL yet you can't challenge it.

 

[phildadon86]

We just need football season to get here ASAP but I am genuinely concerned about the rules and officiating. Last year sucked, league wide, and you know none of those geriatrics eye sight or mental capacity are getting any better.

Something clearly needs to change and they've done little to address it. I don't care if a game takes 5 hours due to instant replay, I want the right call made.

I'm not sure if full time officiating crews would make a difference but it couldn't hurt. I also think PI needs to be more clearly defined and reviewable. It's one of the most costly and subjective penalties in the NFL yet you can't challenge it.

Personally i think refs should be fined game checks for incorrect calls or overall bad games. Hold them accountable just as the players are held accountable for mistakes.

 

[aria]

Personally i think refs should be fined game checks for incorrect calls or overall bad games. Hold them accountable just as the players are held accountable for mistakes.

Yeah, I don't really care what they do but it's frustrating as hell that it's getting worse and worse yet they have hardly done anything to improve it. I'm sure the union has something to do with that which is also ridiculous.

 

[phildadon86]

Yeah, I don't really care what they do but it's frustrating as hell that it's getting worse and worse yet they have hardly done anything to improve it. I'm sure the union has something to do with that which is also ridiculous.

Its scary that the replacement refs were almost on par with the normal ones. If they arent going to fine them, at least make them full time refs like the NBA.

 

[Lutonio]

Personally i think refs should be fined game checks for incorrect calls or overall bad games. Hold them accountable just as the players are held accountable for mistakes.

Could be tough. What about a bonus system where they get a little extra for perfect/near perfect called games?

 

[aria]

Could be tough. What about a bonus system where they get a little extra for perfect/near perfect called games?

It would never happen. I get that the calls are based on human judgement and there will be errors, and like baseball, a lot of people will argue that's part of the game but this isn't a strike or ball we're talking about. The calls need to be close to perfect. They need to make the rules more black and white, loosen up on the roughing the passer bs and make PI reviewable. Just my opinion of course.