John Phillips... child please!!!

[hlh_8728]

OP fail. Phillips was our 2nd best TE and we run the 2 TE set, that makes him a quasi-starter in my eyes (not to mention he can lead block out of the backfield pretty damn effectively, further increasing his value)

He might not have passed Bennett officially, but it sure looked like he was making a strong case and even as a 3rd TE he looked to be ahead of Deon for a roster spot due to his lead blocking

Will losing Phillips cripple us? No, we are loaded on O and might have an even better D but his loss does hurt, don't brush it off so nonchalantly

 

[cowboys2233]

OP fail. Phillips was our 2nd best TE and we run the 2 TE set, that makes him a quasi-starter in my eyes (not to mention he can lead block out of the backfield pretty damn effectively, further increasing his value)

He might not have passed Bennett officially, but it sure looked like he was making a strong case and even as a 3rd TE he looked to be ahead of Deon for a roster spot due to his lead blocking

Will losing Phillips cripple us? No, we are loaded on O and might have an even better D but his loss does hurt, don't brush it off so nonchalantly

Yes, this saddens me. What a great player he was turning into, the type of X-factor that gets teams to Super Bowls. *****' shame.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

Even if we lost Romo for the season, all hope wouldn’t be lost. Someone else has to step up. But regardless...it does affect the team in one way or another. Who is going to fill the void left by Phillips? He was a huge part of the offense during the last 4 or 5 games and playoff games. If Phillips wasn’t a real factor, why the hell was he in the offensive game plan? Someone now has to step up, the question is who?

 

[hammer1]

Thank u sir. Im sorry for starting this thread. I am again reminded why I dont write on this board. Apparently my english isnt good enough. I will be quiet from now on.

C'mon friend...you have to have thicker skin than that. We all take our lumps from time to time. Buck-up... and stay in the game.

 

[tomson75]

Thank u sir. Im sorry for starting this thread. I am again reminded why I dont write on this board. Apparently my english isnt good enough. I will be quiet from now on.

How dramatic.



You started a thread on a redundant topic using the title "Child Please!", and further compounded your plight by confusing Phillips with 31 other 3rd string TE's in the league....as if they were all created equally, or used in an identical manner in every offense in the league. This, to nearly everyone else, was clearly not the case.

Did you really expect to get measured, well thought out responses concerning the depth at which Phillip's injury would concern the team?

After people responded in a like manner, one that was essentially called for with the original post, you proceed to call people "ridiculous" and get defensive....and now you've come to the "why I don't post here" and "I'll be quiet from now on" crap.

Give me a break.

Your english wasn't the problem, BTW. It was the content that failed. I suggested that you make yourself clearer in the original post only after you posted what you claim to have originally intended to say......which was really nothing like what you actually said.

 

[DMX690]

Phillips is a nice little player but with the talent this team has he can be replaced.

 

[cowboys2233]

Even if we lost Romo for the season, all hope wouldn’t be lost. Someone else has to step up.

No, all would be lost. It would be the most horrific thing that could possibly happen. We musn't even think of this. This must never be spoken of again.

The league is fully aware of this, which is why they have so many rules on how and when you can hit the QB. Goodell and Co. know full well that, with the exception of VERY few teams, there is just no such thing as "stepping up" at the QB position. Your starter goes down, you're done.

Which is why it infuriates me when I see people complaining about the league protecting QBs too much. They are protecting quarterbacks to protect the brand -- you can't tell me some of the luster wasn't lost when Brady went down against KC two years ago. It immediately ruins the hopes of the team's fan base, just like that.

 

[WarC]

Dude was huge, and an excellent blocker. It isn't like losing Witten or Felix Jones but it still hurts the team. We had to deal with a whole lot of injuries coming out of that first game. I hope it isn't the sign of a future trend.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

No, all would be lost. It would be the most horrific thing that could possibly happen. We musn't even think of this. This must never be spoken of again.

The league is fully aware of this, which is why they have so many rules on how and when you can hit the QB. Goodell and Co. know full well that, with the exception of VERY few teams, there is just no such thing as "stepping up" at the QB position. Your starter goes down, you're done.

Which is why it infuriates me when I see people complaining about the league protecting QBs too much. They are protecting quarterbacks to protect the brand -- you can't tell me some of the luster wasn't lost when Brady went down against KC two years ago. It immediately ruins the hopes of the team's fan base, just like that.

I think we have the defense and rushing attack to do it. I think after seeing the o-line Kitna has been playing behind all training camp i appreciate him a little bit more. Barron and some of those other guys are horrific. I also think without Romo, Garrett would be forced to rely more on the ground game which i think favors the Cowboys o-line strengths. Would we still be a Super Bowl team still? I don’t think so.

I agree with you about the importance of the QB and why they wear the red jersey. But good teams can overcome it, much like the Patriots did when Brady went down.

 

[Nav22]

Bottom line: the Phillips injury sucks, yes. But if we can't overcome that loss with the likes of Witten, Bennett, and Sicko... then we were never a championship-caliber team to begin with.

If those guys can get through the year relatively injury-free, we're more than fine at TE/FB/HB. Phillips provided solid depth, but he's not an irreplaceable player by any wild stretch of the imagination.

 

[Doomsday101]

Bottom line: the Phillips injury sucks, yes. But if we can't overcome that loss with the likes of Witten, Bennett, and Sicko... then we were never a championship-caliber team to begin with.

If those guys can get through the year relatively injury-free, we're more than fine at TE/FB/HB. Phillips provided solid depth, but he's not an irreplaceable player by any wild stretch of the imagination.

I agree. I hate that we lost him for the season. The guy was having a great camp and looked good in the game the other night. However our season was never going to hing on Phillips, Dallas should be able to overcome the loss of Phillips.

 

[windjc]

Philips was a man among boys! - against the Bengals 2nd team...:eekmouse:



Oh, yeh, I forgot. He had 7 catches last year...

Whatever are we going to do?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....

 

[laythewood28]

Even if we lost Romo for the season, all hope wouldn’t be lost. Someone else has to step up. But regardless...it does affect the team in one way or another. Who is going to fill the void left by Phillips? He was a huge part of the offense during the last 4 or 5 games and playoff games. If Phillips wasn’t a real factor, why the hell was he in the offensive game plan? Someone now has to step up, the question is who?

Er..... what?


Kiss our superbowl goodbye if that happens.

 

[cowboys2233]

I agree with you about the importance of the QB and why they wear the red jersey. But good teams can overcome it, much like the Patriots did when Brady went down.

The problem is that losing a quarterback has a snowball effect. Yes, we would have to rely more on the running game. The problem is that every single team we faced would know that. I actually believe that Romo going down would have a bigger impact on the running game than it would on the passing game. Teams would tailor their defenses to stop our running game because they would have absolutely no fear of our passing game.

And then with all the three and outs, our defense would eventually wear down. Losing the one player would eventually impact every single aspect of our team. You mentioned the Patriots but they are an exception -- they had a still-young backup that had been in the system for a fairly long time, someone with mobility and a live arm. But even they weren't immune -- they went from a team that very nearly became the first to go undefeated with a 16-game regular season schedule to not making the playoffs the next.

Without Romo, we're toast. Don't kid yourself. We would not even get a whiff of the playoffs, much less a Super Bowl.

 

[tomson75]

No, all would be lost. It would be the most horrific thing that could possibly happen. We musn't even think of this. This must never be spoken of again.

The league is fully aware of this, which is why they have so many rules on how and when you can hit the QB. Goodell and Co. know full well that, with the exception of VERY few teams, there is just no such thing as "stepping up" at the QB position. Your starter goes down, you're done.

Which is why it infuriates me when I see people complaining about the league protecting QBs too much. They are protecting quarterbacks to protect the brand -- you can't tell me some of the luster wasn't lost when Brady went down against KC two years ago. It immediately ruins the hopes of the team's fan base, just like that.

It is equally infuriating to me that the integrity of this team sport is so heavily sacrificed to protect an individual player. Yeah, it sucks to lose your starting QB. No question. In fact, it likely means you won't be very competitive.....but all 32 teams enter every season with the same risk.

No good comes from the protection of individual players in team sports IMO. We're seeing the direct degradation of this sport because of these actions as far as I'm concerned. I'm concerned for the NFL. It's going down the wrong path.

....and yes, I'm fully aware of the business patterns that it has become handcuffed to. I simply don't agree with them.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I issue a dissent on your ruling.

We have Witten and now with injuries to phillips and sicko, we are down to . . . MBennett?
Martellus, though he might one day be a break-out player, has shown no matury thus far.

Our TE offense is built around more than 2 TEs. Even I know that!
And Phillips showed that he could play FB, which is a plus and could be disguished as such.

Ohhhh, you make me so mad!

 

[Doomsday101]

It is equally infuriating to me that the integrity of this team sport is so heavily sacrificed to protect an individual player. Yeah, it sucks to lose your starting QB. No question. In fact, it likely means you won't be very competitive.....but all 32 teams enter every season with the same risk.

No good comes from the protection of individual players in team sports IMO. We're seeing the direct degradation of this sport because of these actions as far as I'm concerned. I'm concerned for the NFL. It's going down the wrong path.

....and yes, I'm fully aware of the business patterns that it has become handcuffed to. I simply don't agree with them.

I agree. I think the league gets over protective of QB’s. If a team is that concerned about the QB keep more guys in to block instead of sending 4 or 5 guys out in to routs. I'm all in favor of calling roughing calls but a guy jumping up to bat a pass down and happen to graze the QB does not fall in the category of roughing in my opinion

 

[Everlastingxxx]

The problem is that losing a quarterback has a snowball effect. Yes, we would have to rely more on the running game. The problem is that every single team we faced would know that. I actually believe that Romo going down would have a bigger impact on the running game than it would on the passing game. Teams would tailor their defenses to stop our running game because they would have absolutely no fear of our passing game.

And then with all the three and outs, our defense would eventually wear down. Losing the one player would eventually impact every single aspect of our team. You mentioned the Patriots but they are an exception -- they had a still-young backup that had been in the system for a fairly long time, someone with mobility and a live arm. But even they weren't immune -- they went from a team that very nearly became the first to go undefeated with a 16-game regular season schedule to not making the playoffs the next.

Without Romo, we're toast. Don't kid yourself. We would not even get a whiff of the playoffs, much less a Super Bowl.

Plenty of examples of teams with average or below average QBs that won the Super Bowl. Trent Dilfer, Jeff Hostetler just to name a few. It’s not impossible. I’d like to see Kitna play with the starters here in the preseason. My point is...we could survive without a Witten or a Austin...any one of these players. The team has enough talent to be competitive. (not a rash of injuries of course)

 

[Doomsday101]

I issue a dissent on your ruling.

We have Witten and now with injuries to phillips and sicko, we are down to . . . MBennett?
Martellus, though he might one day be a break-out player, has shown no matury thus far.

Our TE offense is built around more than 2 TEs. Even I know that!
And Phillips showed that he could play FB, which is a plus and could be disguished as such.

Ohhhh, you make me so mad!

Sicko is out with a concussion not out for the season. Yes Dallas does run allot of 2 TE sets we also have more talent than we have recently had at WR who is to say we don’t use more 3 WR sets and we also have a couple of guys competing for the FB spot so who says we have to have a TE lined up as an H back.

 

[cowboys2233]

No good comes from the protection of individual players in team sports IMO. We're seeing the direct degradation of this sport because of these actions as far as I'm concerned. I'm concerned for the NFL. It's going down the wrong path.

It is a team sport...with the exception of QB. With that one position, this league is very much an individual sport. In a perfect world, every team's starting QB would stay completely healthy -- let the deciding factors be their individual talents and the collective talent of the team around them.

Losing a starting QB isn't just tough luck, a risk every team faces. It can take the very best teams and turn them into run-of-the-mill teams immediately. Anyone who is remotely competitive would not view greater protection of QBs as a bad thing, as degrading the sport. Because without the starting QBs, there is nothing remotely competitive about the sport.